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So you know you guys have to start up a store now... Nerd & Wehr: Nerdy Wares for Wary Nerds!
Also see alternative joke: "WehrNerd's : Open Late"


As far as tactics, I'm afraid thats a conversation I'll have to play spectator to- Though I might be starting to learn... As Alf mentioned, I'm considering taking up a little bit of Warmahordes... I mean I've got the start of a Khador army and the start of a Retubution army.... And I am really missing playing games... Maybe Warmahordes'll fit that bill...


In the mean time, some more Gators!
I initially wanted to wait till Maelok was done before these final shots, but he's taking a little longer- Finally figured out the fleshy bits (blending together both Wehr and Nerd's techniques), and those are looking pretty sweet so far. Also threw in some work on the Sacral vault. Its turned a particularly disturbing hue of pinky white, so I think Im on the right path for an albino skin coloration.


Anyway! On to the newly finished pieces!

First up, Wrong-Eye:





And of course, Rask!





Nearly there, guys! Tiny bit behind schedule, but making up for lost time!!

Damn but they are magnificent!

I thought you had Convergence, not Ret?

I double checked the box (cause I have no memory ) Its the White and blue glowy guys, not the robots.

 Ramos Asura wrote:
I double checked the box (cause I have no memory ) Its the White and blue glowy guys, not the robots.

I like Ret, I've always wanted to try them out, maybe I'll pick up that all in one army box at Recess.

Gators are looking good.

Gave away all my WM box sets. Just another set of mini's I've put on the great backlist to paint so they went to a better place.

The two characters look awesome! Ramos and I were talking over PM and he's just going to make two small tweaks (dark beak on the bird and rusting up the metals). Can't wait to see the Vault progress - this whole project has been fantastic

I kind of feel like Wrong Eye's wrong eye should be a little whiter and milkier looking.

Spoilered for making me want to vomit after the research:

@SL: Yeeeeah thats what mine have been doing... If I hadnt had a spare bit of paint time following Adepticon, I probably wouldnt even have the little box of Khador done yet...
Eventually, eventuallyyyy......

@Wehr: Yeeeeesss... Beautiful! That reference photo is perfect... I'll make those alterations presently. Still a yellow cast to the eye, but it does need that extra few steps towards milky.


So the last two models in the Deathroll project are odd ones with challenges of their own-

First off, the Vault. Big, detailed, and ALBINO. (You've already seen all of these pics of it, Tides... feel free to skip down)

A little (read as a LOT) pink, but this is to serve as an undertone to the model as I paint future layers. Top highlight will be nearly pure white, so I need to build as good of a base color as I am able before then!






Maelok is one of my favorites, aesthetically speaking- Undead gator with bits of him falling off and tied/sewn/stapled back on... Its brilliant!

The gooey bits in particular were difficult, simply because of the color- I dont have any paints to use directly from the pot for this, so it was all down to experimentation.
Even more experiments were needed for the flaps of flesh around some of the wounds- They needed to be close to the meaty bits' colors, but different enough to contrast them. To this end, I used the same base color, but highlighted with a touch of purple-gray in the mix to desaturate the colors and make the flesh look more pallid.

Here's where we're at so far with it. He still has a bit to go yet, mostly browns (leathers, woods, ropes) and blacks (trophy hair, jewelry).

Maelok is looking great! Will his candles be glowing / yellowy? I'm guessing so, as without that they might look a bit like icing... yum

I'm very excited to see more on the Vault, as long as it does not end up PINK in the end! (Ramos has assured me it will not ). Totally agreed that you need that solid layer before bringing it more up to close-to-white at the top.

New Sugar-Blasted Maelok Puffs!


I did try to get a glow on the candles, but how the stock painters did that is unfortunately beyond my skill... Absolutely crazy!
So I went with the next best thing and made the candles a nice cream color and painted the wicks with a flame coloration. Because its so small you dont get much, but theres just a little touch of black, red, orange, and yellow in there. Hopefully that's a workable look for you!











On to the Vault!!

He looks very cool Ramos, the candles look great.

A pink vault (with a splash of yellow) would be very striking on the field of battle, where's moonpie when you need him!

He looks amazing the candles are extremely convincing all finished!

GiraffeX - Noooo, don't give him any ideas . Pink doesn't quite have the "intimidation factor" that I think the big albino gator will be going for

Disco gator... me likey!

 GiraffeX wrote:
He looks very cool Ramos, the candles look great.

A pink vault (with a splash of yellow) would be very striking on the field of battle, where's moonpie when you need him!

Yes.. pink and Yellow.. Yessssss. Moonpie the prophet has been summoned!

ok, though what is the vault actually? Please explain the figure.. dead lizard? ???? I only say so as the legs are in a weird position

---The uninformed----

You've really (and I mean honestly) done an amazing job on that Croc! he looks amazingly good and the skin blending into the flesh is perfect! well done Ramos I'd shake your hnd if I were there!

 Solar_lion wrote:
ok, though what is the vault actually? Please explain the figure.. dead lizard? ???? I only say so as the legs are in a weird position

---The uninformed----

It's a conversion I made from the art, before the official model (large pic spoilered below) came out for the gator faction of Privateer Press's Hordes:


I still like mine quite a bit . The idea of them is a vault of souls that the voodoo gators collect as they go around fighting things in the swamp. My problem with the official models is there's noooo way that thing is making it through a swamp whereas I think mine could quite well!

Yea I never understood the concept behind that model. Why would swamp dwellers make anything out of stone, let alone something so large and involved. Those would be hugely expensive unless there happened to be a stone quarry nearby. I would have guessed it would be made out of bones, perhaps of some giant swamp monsters, or some other strong but relatively light material. Instead they went all Indiana Jones, forgetting that gators live in the swamp, not jungle or mountains.

 Wehrkind wrote:
Yea I never understood the concept behind that model. Why would swamp dwellers make anything out of stone, let alone something so large and involved. Those would be hugely expensive unless there happened to be a stone quarry nearby. I would have guessed it would be made out of bones, perhaps of some giant swamp monsters, or some other strong but relatively light material. Instead they went all Indiana Jones, forgetting that gators live in the swamp, not jungle or mountains.

The only reason why I can think it was made out of stone is for the following reasons:
1) With all of the creole and voodoo influences in the product line, perhaps they were going for something like a Mausoleum that you'd find in New Orleans (not sure why it has wheels though)
2) Since the gators don't wear a lot of clothing, Privateer Press had to add WoW shoulders to something, and the Sacral Vault took the hit.

Honestly Idk...

Those ideas are about as good as any Such a shame, it could have been a floating rib cage of a mighty beast, held aloft by the souls of a thousand victims trapped in a giant soul cage held within the bone structure, and guided into combat by gators dragging it on chains so that the commanding bokor can direct its energies at his foes.

Instead we have a giant town square fountain on wheels.

One rationalization behind it that I have works along more "religious" or culturally significant terms.

The reason it's made of stone is a statement of its importance. It is because stone is rare/hard to get that they constructed it of stone. It was deemed a worthy expenditure of time and effort in order to appease the spirits or whatever. Its just such an important monument that it could only be constructed out of rare materials. So sort of fantasy conspicuous consumption, I guess.


Wheels are still stupid, though


Alternatively it wasnt so much a Swamp theme they were thinking of with it, but a Jungle theme. Like GW's lizardmen. More Mayan/Inca influences.


I really like the rib cage concept. Like REALLY like it! Thats super fluffy in my mind, and honestly makes a better idea than the "town fountain" (i lol'd).


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@Gir/SL: YEEEEES! The yellow must flow!

@nerd: Very much appreciated- Rest assured, you and your orks were no small inspiration for the blending

I'm still geeking on ' Voodoo gators'

 Solar_lion wrote:
I'm still geeking on ' Voodoo gators'

You should check out AgeofEgos' gators here on Dakka, they're pretty voodoo-y

Voodoo gators was an instant sell for me. I mean come on.... Wrong-Eye is a gator in a coat and top hat!! How could I not love that?


So Vault progress continues...
I kept trying over and over not to make it too pink, but after sleeping on it and looking at it with fresh eyes, I realized that it was a no sell...



TOO PINK!!
I think where I went wrong is the use of a red wash, which turned fluorescent pink over the white basecoat. Then the whole thing was just turning pink and peach and looked terrible.


So back to square one.

Took the basecoat to a just barely blue-gray, then hit it with a custom wash comprised mostly of GW Tanned Flesh. I still have a lot more highlighting to do, but already its looking WAY nicer. Less pink and more fleshy.




I've also been working on a mini for OTL from their newest KS. Dark Dragon!




Unfortunately, it seems that IM totally out of Purple paint, so Im stuck on this guy till Monday :/
Guess thats all just as well... Albino lizard still has a long way to go, and I want to get him home to RiTides soon as I can

I really like the updated albino flesh color!

And here's the final version of the skin tone on the face-



I think that'll work!

Looking awesome! The fleshy look does seem like a big improvement over the pink. Still conveys albino without looking like a white brushed version of My Little Pony.

I think it looks strange right now, but details will pull it together.

I think it looks right compared to the below, I think some nice dark rusty armour will make it really pop.

Awww, he looks so friendly.