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NorCal

Even I won't play devil's advocate about this guy's right to free speech.

The self-published author was arrested in Pueblo, Colorado, on a Florida felony warrant after undercover detectives in Polk County purchased and received a copy of the book through the mail. He will have to be extradited to Florida to face charges.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/20/florida.obscenity.arrest/index.html


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The time investment I would have to put into formulating a half way decent defensive argument for this man (for trolling purposes) would not generate a sufficient amount of luls to make it worth the effort.


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I read the book and i didn't learn anything i didn't already know.

Just because hes a sh*t writer doenst mean he should be arrested though.

   
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Rogers, CT

What exactly is the blue thing supposed to be on the cover?

   
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Lincolnshire

I'm surprised he didn't get arrested like a month ago, when it was being reported by all the newspapers.

I've not read it myself, but aren't you allowed to publish what you want as long as it's not "GO FORTH AND RAPE CHILDREN."?
   
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NorCal

Ma55ter_fett wrote:The time investment I would have to put into formulating a half way decent defensive argument for this man (for trolling purposes) would not generate a sufficient amount of luls to make it worth the effort.


My thoughts exactly.

He'll probably get snapped up by those trolls at the ACLU. They'll do anything to piss of the establishment.

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Wolfun wrote:
I've not read it myself, but aren't you allowed to publish what you want as long as it's not "GO FORTH AND RAPE CHILDREN."?


That's what he wrote.


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NorCal

Wolfun wrote:I'm surprised he didn't get arrested like a month ago, when it was being reported by all the newspapers.

I've not read it myself, but aren't you allowed to publish what you want as long as it's not "GO FORTH AND RAPE CHILDREN."?



It is a guide book on how to seduce, sexually gratify, and train for long term sexual service YOUNG BOYS IE 9-11 years of age.

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It is possible to write a book that isn't legal, but not being an expert in the field, and haven't read the book in particular, i couldn't say whether or not it falls under the guidelines. We'll find out in court.

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NorCal

No excuse for buggering little boys. Sorry, not gonna bend or break on that one.

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Peter Wiggin wrote:No excuse for buggering little boys. Sorry, not gonna bend or break on that one.


I don't think anyone was arguing for that. We are talking about limits of free speech and all that junk though.

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NorCal

Ahtman wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:No excuse for buggering little boys. Sorry, not gonna bend or break on that one.


I don't think anyone was arguing for that. We are talking about limits of free speech and all that junk though.



The free speech ends when you advocate child molestation.


Not only is it just gross, but unless I am wrong it is against the law to incite unlawful behavior. <shrug> I am not a lawyer though.

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Anything to incite imminent crime is not protected by free speech.

I.E. If I threatened to take Peter's head and cut it off slowly with a rusty spoon (WHICH I WOULD NEVER DO), that would not be protected.

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Peter Wiggin wrote:
Wolfun wrote:I'm surprised he didn't get arrested like a month ago, when it was being reported by all the newspapers.

I've not read it myself, but aren't you allowed to publish what you want as long as it's not "GO FORTH AND RAPE CHILDREN."?



It is a guide book on how to seduce, sexually gratify, and train for long term sexual service YOUNG BOYS IE 9-11 years of age.


Ah. I was unaware of this.
As I said, I've not read it myself. =P

All I got from the papers were "IT'S SICK AND EVIL!". Which is what they said about 4chan, soooo....
   
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Wolfun wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:
Wolfun wrote:I'm surprised he didn't get arrested like a month ago, when it was being reported by all the newspapers.

I've not read it myself, but aren't you allowed to publish what you want as long as it's not "GO FORTH AND RAPE CHILDREN."?



It is a guide book on how to seduce, sexually gratify, and train for long term sexual service YOUNG BOYS IE 9-11 years of age.


Ah. I was unaware of this.
As I said, I've not read it myself. =P

All I got from the papers were "IT'S SICK AND EVIL!". Which is what they said about 4chan, soooo....


Well...

Isn't it?

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NorCal

Automatically Appended Next Post:
A Black Ram wrote:Lets also make a book on how to make bombs, and hide them from your parents!



They did, then they made it illegal. See "Jolly Roger's Cookbook" and "Anarchists Handbook". I remember when you could buy them at chain bookstores. Now you can't, cause they are illegal.


Actually, they may not be illegal per-say...but certainly difficult to find. Same deal with The Turner Diaries, although that book certainly doesn't directly incite any criminal behavior. Still......I hope that makes more sense to you than it does to me.

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Peter Wiggin wrote:


It is a guide book on how to seduce, sexually gratify, and train for long term sexual service YOUNG BOYS IE 9-11 years of age.


I thought that was the boyscout handbook?

I'm confused...


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CT GAMER wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:


It is a guide book on how to seduce, sexually gratify, and train for long term sexual service YOUNG BOYS IE 9-11 years of age.


I thought that was the boyscout handbook?

I'm confused...



Nah, I was a scout! Then the LDS hijacked the scouts and turned it into yet another anti-homosexuality weapon in their arsenal.

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Rogers, CT

So I take it nobody knows what the blue thing is?
Is it supposed to be a person?
Can someone enlighten me?

   
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Peter Wiggin wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
A Black Ram wrote:The Turner Diaries, although that book certainly doesn't directly incite any criminal behavior.


It doesn't explicitly state that people should overthrow the government and kill all non-whites, it just implicitly does it, and in such a fashion to have been the imputes for several real life crimes.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:So I take it nobody knows what the blue thing is?
Is it supposed to be a person?
Can someone enlighten me?


I don't know either and I'm not sure I want to know.

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NorCal

The blue crap is an artistic rendering of a bearded man embracing a young looking boyish figure. Its very.....greek. :/

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I thought all Greeks looked like this.

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NorCal

Modern greeks are more like this though


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Rogers, CT

That looks like a leg over a shoulder...

That artists rendition is a swing and a miss. I can't even tell what it is trying to convey ( I can assume you are right due to the subject matter...)

   
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NorCal

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:That looks like a leg over a shoulder...

That artists rendition is a swing and a miss. I can't even tell what it is trying to convey ( I can assume you are right due to the subject matter...)


SUmthin gross having to do with a grown man buggering a little boy. Ugh, c'mon. If ugay then ugay, wait til 18 ffs.

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I blame the sexy children... this guy is clearly a victim of society.

THIS THREAD IS SO FAMILY FRIENDLY IT HURTS!

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I wonder if instructing somehow in HOW to do something is the same thing as advocating it. Would I be arrested for publishing a pamphlet on the correct procedure of burglary?

Still, I'm not sure if this book is some sort of joke. I hope it is. That would be much better than taking any of this seriously.

@Medium: You funny guy, pedo's get you last.

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Peter Wiggin wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
A Black Ram wrote:Lets also make a book on how to make bombs, and hide them from your parents!



They did, then they made it illegal. See "Jolly Roger's Cookbook" and "Anarchists Handbook". I remember when you could buy them at chain bookstores. Now you can't, cause they are illegal.


Actually, they may not be illegal per-say...but certainly difficult to find. Same deal with The Turner Diaries, although that book certainly doesn't directly incite any criminal behavior. Still......I hope that makes more sense to you than it does to me.


There is a subtle but important distinction between a book having been banned by the government, and a book being difficult to find because Amazon won't stock it.

I have no idea what the content of this alleged paedophile book may be. It probably can be defended on free speech grounds. It is very difficult to find legitimate grounds to ban a book, however as Ahtman said it needs to go through the trial process.

Presumably the author has been arrested for being a paedophile rather than an author of a distasteful book.

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