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Yea HMBC. I'm just hoping and praying it isn't a Forge World only (as in the rules are in Imperial Armor) tank. Otherwise I'm going to be very very sad and will have to try and figure out something different to do with my pair of Griffons shown above.

I honestly can't see GW removing the option to field the Griffon from the codex. Or the Colossus, or Medusa either for that matter. I may be looking at things through rose colored glasses, but it doesn't do anything but hurt the release if they invalidate not one, not two, but three different viable artillery options from the book. Adding the Wyvern doesn't hurt, it just gives a fifth option for artillery (Which, I'll be honest, I really like now that it looks like it'll throw four small blasts a turn). I'll likely not field a Wyvern, as I prefer the Griffon's single large blast with the accurate bombardment (essentially just twinlinked) rule.

Also, and on a totally unrelated note, I find myself suddenly REALLY REALLY wanting to get a few squads of Steel Legion troopers to field as a combined element with my Vostroyans. I love the Steel Legion's look (not as much as my Vostroyans, but they are a close second) and I wonder if it wouldn't look too jarring to have a platoon of Steel Legion fighting alongside my V Firstborn Company. Thoughts to ponder I suppose.

Anyway, that's all I've got. Take it easy for now guys.

-RT-

 Ravajaxe wrote:

 DeathzHellShotz wrote:
We still haven't heard word about this 5th kit, unless the box with the chimera is the 5th addition to this release.

A mechanized squad with chimera is hardly a new thing, a limited run bow has existed before (I can't recall if it was during 4th or 5th edition).
So will there really be a fifth new kit ? If real, we should have heard at least a little bit of it now. My guess : that's all folks !

* plastic Stormtroopers (with loads of bitz)
* Taurox (ahemmm ! )
* plastic classical ogryns / shielded ogryns
* Hydra / Wyvern

Not bad, for a release in current rhythm of updates. The Taurox was not needed, nor expected, not even carefully designed, so it lowers the overall reception of the IG wave.
However, we already have a very broad range of miniatures available (not counting OOP models, FW and alternatives brands).
The decisive point will be within the rules and point costs of the codex. Tactically interesting, balanced and competitive force ? Difficult to play, monobuild prone, sub-par army ?

I am personally still holding out hope for a plastic clam pack or two. Guard dose have an issue with getting characters (either finecast or they are squads) and every 6th ed release has had 1-2 clampacks. I am hoping for a commissar and a Primaris Psyker.

 Byte wrote:
Any more rumor or leaks on the Vendetta?

The Valkyrie IS the Vendetta now. The Valk can take the loadout like the Vendetta had, still transport, and frees up a fast slot!


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 DeathzHellShotz wrote:
We still haven't heard word about this 5th kit, unless the box with the chimera is the 5th addition to this release.

What happened to the new flyer rumour?


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Here is that rumor -

"New plastic tank based heavily on the Heresy-era Malcador. Large kit outsizes the Land Raider (way smaller than a Baneblade) Multiple variants in the kit. (NOT THE TAUROX)

Updated Basilisk returns. Gun assembly is more rearward with armored skirts replacing the delicate railing. An overall more up-armored appearance.

A NEW dogfighter flyer arrives, that is NOT an existing known model.

New Plastic Stormtrooper/Veteran kit will build a minimum sized unit. Kit includes a TON of optional bits to individualize your squad as well as bits to dress up existing Cadian ranges." WHICH WE NOW KNOW IS TRUE

So what of those rumors from Feb/March?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/21vhw7/new_guard/

I don't think these pics have been posted yet

 DrMond wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/21vhw7/new_guard/

I don't think these pics have been posted yet

Nice pics. Looks like swapping from a Wyvern to a Hydra could be done with a magnetised barrel swap.

One thing I find kind of funny, the order "forward for the emperor!" will be pretty much solely be used for shooting then running away.

Nice pics.

Still not a fan of the open topped nature of both Hydra/Wyvern. Then again, I dislike open topped things by nature.

I'll likely still end up sourcing my guard out through 3rd party alternatives.

So they store the dead crew bodies in Tauroxes to provide psychic defense......wow.

On the flip side, Tank Commander Warlord!!!!!!

If it was enclosed I would be ordering a few wyverns already.

M.

Just checked something....

compare -

GW - Tempestus Scions Expeditionary Force $845

same model count

FW - 30 elysians, 1 elysian command of 5, 4 tauroses, 3 valks $681 (just run as Scions, Tauroxes, & valks)

I don't play IG but that Wyvern looks very cool in my opinion.

Edit:
Guess I should get used to call them AM

Well you could probably enclose it with some plasticard if you were desperate, lol.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Any more rumor or leaks on the Vendetta?

The Valkyrie IS the Vendetta now. The Valk can take the loadout like the Vendetta had, still transport, and frees up a fast slot!


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 DeathzHellShotz wrote:
We still haven't heard word about this 5th kit, unless the box with the chimera is the 5th addition to this release.

What happened to the new flyer rumour?


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Here is that rumor -

"New plastic tank based heavily on the Heresy-era Malcador. Large kit outsizes the Land Raider (way smaller than a Baneblade) Multiple variants in the kit. (NOT THE TAUROX)

Updated Basilisk returns. Gun assembly is more rearward with armored skirts replacing the delicate railing. An overall more up-armored appearance.

A NEW dogfighter flyer arrives, that is NOT an existing known model.

New Plastic Stormtrooper/Veteran kit will build a minimum sized unit. Kit includes a TON of optional bits to individualize your squad as well as bits to dress up existing Cadian ranges." WHICH WE NOW KNOW IS TRUE

So what of those rumors from Feb/March?

The only thing there even barely worthy of credit is "Storm Trooper kit" with "ton of optional bits".

Both parts could very easily have been guessed. That set of rumours seemed complete crap and frankly I called it about 6-8 months ago. That same rumour said stuff about Inquisitional/Cadian parts and that's a load of gak.

Glad to see that they are still showing the other Guard army's even the FW's. Made my day .

The taurox fits in pretty well with all those tanks I think. Pretty big Truck though.

Pitty there wasnt a big page of regiments shown like in the old old codex. Oh well. Still excited though.

I like how they are showing more colour schemes now.

Kind of funny how 2 of the new kits won't really see many buyers.

The Taurox stats kind of blow, and unless the Hydra gets interceptor or a drop of like 25 points, I don't see anybody taking it.

No Ogryns in sight...looks like we will have another week of releases after this one. Maybe there's still hope for the new tank and flyer rumors...

Have we seen the heads in the red box?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Well you could probably enclose it with some plasticard if you were desperate, lol.

Or go 3rd party.

M.

 DrMond wrote:
I don't play IG but that Wyvern looks very cool in my opinion.

Edit:
Guess I should get used to call them AM

They're still the Imperial Guard, according to the article. The Astra Miliarium is some kind of weird rebranding scheme for the codex. Maybe to suggest it encompasses more than just the Guard (Navy flyers, Schola Scions (Stormtroopers) etc)?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
One thing I find kind of funny, the order "forward for the emperor!" will be pretty much solely be used for shooting then running away.

I was thinking more of firing heavy weapons and then moving.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 DrMond wrote:
I don't play IG but that Wyvern looks very cool in my opinion.

Edit:
Guess I should get used to call them AM

They're still the Imperial Guard, according to the article. The Astra Miliarium is some kind of weird rebranding scheme for the codex. Maybe to suggest it encompasses more than just the Guard (Navy flyers, Schola Scions (Stormtroopers) etc)?

Nope, on itunes the preview images of the Storm Troopers codex shows a structure of the imperium image. The AM is separate from the other things you mention. AM = IG.


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 Trickstick wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
One thing I find kind of funny, the order "forward for the emperor!" will be pretty much solely be used for shooting then running away.

I was thinking more of firing heavy weapons and then moving.

Yeah, I just don't envisage anyone using it to move toward the enemy. Maybe against Tau I guess.

Man they need to tone down the color clashing on their new models. The hell is the 'eavy Metal team thinking lol.

Those blue urban guys look decent though.

The reddit image leaks are leaving me very content with this release as is. Feelin' pretty good so far (tank commanders!!111oneone). The only bonuses at this point would be;

-retaining "bring it down"
-Cheaper ogryns and sentinels
-hydra gets interceptor
-big vendetta pts increase

 Sir Bubbles wrote:
Man they need to tone down the color clashing on their new models. The hell is the 'eavy Metal team thinking lol.

Those blue urban guys look decent though.

I love it. Bright colours and impractical armour etc. Looks very cool and was one of the reasons I play guard today. I hope to see more like them.

 Las wrote:
The reddit image leaks are leaving me very content with this release as is. Feelin' pretty good so far (tank commanders!!111oneone).

TANK WARLORD! TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKK!

The only bonuses at this point would be;

-retaining "bring it down"

It's 6 of the 9 cards, so there's 3 we have not seen...

Maybe no "Bring It Down!" though.

 Las wrote:
The reddit image leaks are leaving me very content with this release as is. Feelin' pretty good so far (tank commanders!!111oneone). The only bonuses at this point would be;

-retaining "bring it down"
-Cheaper ogryns and sentinels
-hydra gets interceptor
-big vendetta pts increase

Care to copy paste them or provide a link?

Pics for pics god!

Other regiments confirmed still in the book, don't have to roll for orders (so the card set is just for convenience), new mortar tank looks kinda cool and MOTHER FETHING TANK COMMANDERS AS HQ CHOICES!

TANK COMMANDERS WITH TANK ORDERS!!!!! RRAAAAARGGHHHH!!!!

Now I can have a stupid tank army that will piss off my opponents without having to use FW rules

Weird as it sounds, the cards would actually be reallty good for me. I completely forget about orders, so, this would help.

TANK COMMANDER AS HQ + WARLORD TRAITS + TANK ORDERS.

GW, I might have just forgiven you for the Taurox. Don't screw this up.