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My friends and I were thinking about what GW might do for the next edition of 40k. One of the things we discussed is that in the 5th edition Rulebook fluff, it mentions that the Adeptus on Terra are no longer able to fix the throne that keeps the Emperor alive. If this was followed through to it's logical conclusion I think that this will happen:

1) The Emperor will die in 6th edition plunging mankind into disarray

2) Chaos will take the opportunity to make a massive offensive on Terra. GW will therefore make the 6th edition boxset Marines versus Chaos. Probably some massive gaming event to go with it also.

3) To balance things out, the Emperor may use his power before he dies to bring back some Primarchs who have been lost/fallen.

4) The first codex after this would probably be Chaos.

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It would be a bold move.

GW have never done much to advance the storyline. A lot of the fluff they release is set in the past of the time-line.

I think it would be pretty exciting, actually.

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Either that or the Emperors death brings about the Star Child


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What's more likely to happen is that some super duper special smart Ad mech guy is going to show up with his magic wrench say a long forgotten prayer thing and wave it and the Golden Throne will be as good as new.

Or to make it more grimdark he manages to repair it a little to keep it going but no one knows how long it will last.

   
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n0t_u wrote:
Or to make it more grimdark he manages to repair it a little to keep it going but no one knows how long it will last.


In 10,000 years they can't work out how to fix up an IV line to keep Guilliman going until his injury can be repaired, I don't think something as sophisticated as the Golden Throne is going to be fixed by any of the morons of the admech anytime soon.
   
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Nah the Emperor will stay as he is for another few 1000 years.

Then if he does kick the bucket,then the whole Star Child/Sensei Emperor thing will happen.

 
   
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Actually i thought the death of the Emperor would unleash the power/energy inside the warp destroying chaos gods... Am i completely lost? Throw me some links to check it out if possible or go through the prophecy please if its cool

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fluffywyvern wrote:My friends and I were thinking about what GW might do for the next edition of 40k. One of the things we discussed is that in the 5th edition Rulebook fluff, it mentions that the Adeptus on Terra are no longer able to fix the throne that keeps the Emperor alive. If this was followed through to it's logical conclusion I think that this will happen:

1) The Emperor will die in 6th edition plunging mankind into disarray

2) Chaos will take the opportunity to make a massive offensive on Terra. GW will therefore make the 6th edition boxset Marines versus Chaos. Probably some massive gaming event to go with it also.

3) To balance things out, the Emperor may use his power before he dies to bring back some Primarchs who have been lost/fallen.

4) The first codex after this would probably be Chaos.


Advancing the storyline?!?!? HERESY!!!!!

We've been in the 41st millenium for a while, not just for 5th edition. Don't think it's really that likely that they'll kill off the Emperor, it's right up there with the Void Dragon waking up...it'll take extreme amounts of excellent storytelling to pull it off without it seeming ridiculous...far easier just to leave it how it is.

However, certainly an interesting idea. I'd like to see the Space Marine/Chaos boxset regardless of anything else Limiting the big boxes you can buy to play straight away by only having two available races (Three if you include Battle for Macragge) has always seemed a poor choice to me, but you need a decent setting to build it I suppose. Battle for Terra, with older marks of power armor....I'd buy that.

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Wait? Who is the starchild everybody is talking about. can i find him in the rulebook
   
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Imo the primarch's would be to overpowered for anything less then a game of apocalypse, itd be interesting for them to return though or at least to have some more info on how theyve progressed. If the emperor dies wouldnt the astronomicon die out ? making warp travel impossible ?. Unless they just turn the golden throne into some sacrifice machine that they keep tossing psykers into to power like coal into a furnace . Personally Id be interested in seeing the emperor become a complete warp entity, and maybe some mixed up reports of people similar to him in appearance appearing at dire battles and saving the human forces and disappearing just as quickly. Oh and I really want to know what the Sanguinor actually is its killing me , and maybe some confirmation if Leman Russ / Jaktai Khan / Vulkan are alive and kicking, I mean its hinted there still alive and will return for the end of days but maybe a sighting or a casefile or some interaction between them and there chapters to fill them with hope would be kinda reassuring I guess.

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ringthorn1 wrote:Wait? Who is the starchild everybody is talking about. can i find him in the rulebook


The Starchild theory is detailed in the 3rd edition rulebook, the Eye of Terror novel, as well as a series called the Inquistion War Trilogy from Black Library. It may be detailed elsewhere, but that's where I've seen it.

In effect, it's the belief of some that when the Emperor dies and sheds his mortal remains on the Golden Throne, he'll be reborn. His soul is already partially in the warp, in the manner of the shaman who joined to become him, perhaps being begun by the compassion he cast off to strike down Horus, and needs the remainder to complete the 'birth'. This however, cannot happen while he's still tied to the Golden Throne. This may or may not be in the form of a warp entity, or another being much as he was before being placed within the Throne, it depends on how you read it (Most read it to be as a warp entity capable of neutralising the Chaos powers as it states in Eye of Terror).

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The Emperor will never truely die. The Emperor Protects after all.

The Starchild theory is detailed in the 3rd edition rulebook, the Eye of Terror novel, as well as a series called the Inquistion War Trilogy from Black Library. It may be detailed elsewhere, but that's where I've seen it.


Yeah, its in the Inquisition War; I'm reading that currently.

 
   
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VenerableBrotherPelinore wrote:
ringthorn1 wrote:Wait? Who is the starchild everybody is talking about. can i find him in the rulebook


The Starchild theory is detailed in the 3rd edition rulebook, the Eye of Terror novel, as well as a series called the Inquistion War Trilogy from Black Library. It may be detailed elsewhere, but that's where I've seen it.


Its also in a really old WFRP book called "Realms of Chaos - The lost and the Damned". Some pretty cool fluff.

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I miss the Lost and The Damned as a supported army.

 
   
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Yeah :(

Back on topic, I think it would kick ass if the Emperor died. It means that id actually read most of the rulebook fluff as it woulf be new material!

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The Emperor dying in 6th edition is about as likely as the Ultramarines getting wiped out by a surprise Squat attack utilizing Unobtainium Missiles to shatter the entire Ultramar System...

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AlmightyWalrus wrote:The Emperor dying in 6th edition is about as likely as the Ultramarines getting wiped out by a surprise Squat attack utilizing Unobtainium Missiles to shatter the entire Ultramar System...


Oh please let this happen. I'd pay good money for that.

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While it would seriously be a good move for GW to do something new and exciting like advance the storyline... I can't help but think that no matter what they do none of you will be satisfied with it.
Just look at all the hate that follows every codex release / new models and you'll see that It's probably safer for GW not to rock the boat.
Props to them if they actually do move the storyline forward though.


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I think people don't realize what would happen if the storyline moved forward and the Star Child cycle was complete - no more 40K . I don't see why people can't move pass the embarassing chapter of 40K history known as the Squats.
   
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Because denial is the hardest obstacle to cross?

If they moved it past the emprah's death I think thet it would become all marines all the time as they would likely go on a crusade to try and claim worlds for the IoM. While this doesn't seem to make sense, take a quick look at the codex line up.

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AlmightyWalrus wrote:The Emperor dying in 6th edition is about as likely as the Ultramarines getting wiped out by a surprise Squat attack utilizing Unobtainium Missiles to shatter the entire Ultramar System...


Oh please let this happen. I'd pay good money for that.


Granted, but the missile does a Crimson Fists and takes the Squats along with the marines.

   
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I dont think GW would have the balls, as if you look at it how many of there customers play sapce mareins? LOADS! how many of them are blue panzys( )? LOADS! By doing this they could bite the hand that feeds them...
   
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This sounds ridiculously epic! I support this.

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fluffywyvern wrote:My friends and I were thinking about what GW might do for the next edition of 40k. One of the things we discussed is that in the 5th edition Rulebook fluff, it mentions that the Adeptus on Terra are no longer able to fix the throne that keeps the Emperor alive. If this was followed through to it's logical conclusion I think that this will happen:

1) The Emperor will die in 6th edition plunging mankind into disarray

2) Chaos will take the opportunity to make a massive offensive on Terra. GW will therefore make the 6th edition boxset Marines versus Chaos. Probably some massive gaming event to go with it also.

3) To balance things out, the Emperor may use his power before he dies to bring back some Primarchs who have been lost/fallen.

4) The first codex after this would probably be Chaos.


1) => all Gates broken.
2) => most human worlds overrun with demons
3) => exile Mankind, leave this Galaxy and start anew, lead by the Primarchs.
4) => yes, multiple chaos codices.
5) => smaller species extinct, Eldar leave too, Tau squatted because Nids/orks/chaos/necrons are still there, IoM discontinued.
6) => orks, evil elfs, bugs and robots isn't so interesting. GW finally collapsed.
7) => new company just wants to loot the carcass of 40k : reboot game as WH 30k. New kits? NO, new repacked old kits...

or

1) => Emperor just lost his anchor in the material realm
2) => chaos offensive.
3) => campaign to contact the "lost" Emperor.
4) => C'tan takes over Mars and most of the IoM.
5) => rise of the C'Tan levels the threats again, chaos shut off because the "great plan" is in place and running.
6) => last stand of smaller species and newbies like Tau. Eldar leave.
7) => Necrons destroy every single Hive fleet. Infected planets are moved into the next black hole.
8) => Necron use a fungizid to remove orks.
9) => finally the campaign has success and contact with the Emperor is re-established.
10) => obviously the glourious leader of Mankind didn't twiddle his thumbs where he made unwillingly "holidays", a virus is spread through Necron systems.
11) => Necrons can't stop dancing, the few C'Tan cannot withstand the wrath of the enslaved.
12) => Galaxy is a burning wreck. Eldar ask if its over, so they could return. Emperor orders them to be chained to the still dancing necrons for all eternity.


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No the emprorer will live because if he died there would be no more impirium and gw would not be able to sell space marines or guard
   
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@Fluffwyvern: I think it would throw to much dissaray into the universe for GW to do it just like the Orks will never entirely unite, the Eldar will never be wiped out etc. They have to keep balance in the universe to keep the wars going especially for the major factions.

@cadbren: Guillimen is dead, it isn't like he was about to die when they put him in stasis and they where just waiting to find a way to heal him. It would be sticking a I.V in a corpse that's just perfectly preserved.

@ChronoCupcake: Who is Jaktai Khan? don't you mean Jaghatai Khan?

Personally I woulden't care from a fluff standpoint if the Emperor died. But as has been said if the Emperor dies then the Imperium goes with him as the Astronomican is gone and Imperial forces would be isolated and destroyed one by one by the predators of the galaxy. That would take out 8 of GWs armies (BT, BA, SM, SW, DA, IG, DH, WH did I miss any?) most of which are fairly popular even if a few are somewhat old. Sure there would be pockets of the Imperium still fighting and such and they could travel outside of the Warp but that would take ages so there would be no reason to have those armies anymore.

 
   
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As if they would kill off the Emperor now. He's too much an integral part of fluff. If they did bump him off they'd need a major fluff shakeup of how things are going. And that would be something the lines of either:

a) the Emperor dies. End of. Imperium goes mental, more worlds fall to xenos/heretics/rebellions. High Lords and =][= among other factions row for suprememcy while foes close in faster than before.
b) Emperor dies and the starchild theory is put into effect. Still instability throughout imperium, more worlds lost anyway, but it's not as severe.

Whatever theory GW create they will inevitably make it look like the Imperium is losing bigtime. As in theres deamons, nids, crons, eldar, DE, and orks just ganging up on them and taking worlds by the dozen.



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GW only have to come out with some bollocks like the Emporer is dead and the Astronomican is going out in 100 years if Space Mariens don't fight hard to discover the new Emporer. Blah blah blah.

And they're golden.

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hum...this story has been held in place for 20+ years at this point, I dont think its going any where, besides there is so much time to cover and fill as it is when characters can live for hundreds of years there are tons of stories to tell before the God-Emperor finally takes his long cat nap

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