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I like 2 then 3

I like 2 myself, maybe because it reminds me of a tie fighter

Jet bike looks fantastic so far, the rider is interesting, always knew necrons needed dreads


PS: Nice one on selling the chaos dread, I'd hoped you'd get more for it way better than the geedub kit.

4 or 5 for me.

Not sure as to the number options but I kind of think it should reflect the front section, so a combo of your listed numbers to reflect that

4, a delta wing look. The dreadlocks are looking sweet.

Right lets bring this over here for reference...

and add some more...

These are variations on the previous set, trying to use the feedback you have left.

MT: see numbers 7 and 8

EyeamRai: see number 6

OMN: see number 6, and maybe 9
Also, thanks. I'm glad the rider and her locks have gone down well. and thanks on the dread. Maybe could have got more, but then it's really moving into army price range and I don't know if anyone would pay that.

Graven: see numbers 8 and 9.

LDD: See number 10. (actually a quick "mspaint" job rather than a piece of paper)

Red: see numbers 7 and 8. Thanks.

Let me know what you like about what you like
and what you think about size, I'm thinking some of them are a bit too large.
Also bare in mind that these will be fitted tilted in at the top (possibly. That's the plan anyway... for now) to give them more of a feeling of being aerodynamically helpful.

I like one, but I'm partial to 7&8. 10 also looks good, the upward curve is interesting.

Its 1 And 4 for me, great work by the way

Yeah, 7 & 8 are what I was thinking I think 8 has it just right.

I like the 1 and 10 combined but really copy the shape of the front plate, so you have the same design as the front nose section pointy bit.

Number 1 for me, it's the only design spelling "elegance of speed", the others spell "speed through power". Think of european car tuning vs american muscle cars. Yet to really bring your front end and the winglets together, I would reccomend to exactly copy the outline of the front end. I suppose you are looking to your 3d model, have a look at those pictures, the 2d-outline of the hood (without the undercut at the front and the windscreen of course) is what you need. That way you have a maximum of repeating lines = elegance.

Maybe in the third dimension you will have to incorporate projectional distortion. The angle of protrusion as seen from front should be corresponding with the front end, too.

9

I originally liked 1 but I've got a yen for 9 now. 9s shape fits with the other design features, but 1 is the best for swooshyness

Thank you all for your selections and reasonings. Compiling all the data, tallying the choices, and analysing the common features of those that are liked... I have come to the conclusion that...

...it's quite the personal choice. The likes are reasonably evenly spread out (there are a couple which stand out and a few that have fallen). Of those that were liked, there are no common features across the board (up, down, pointy, rounded, square...).

However, following suggestions from LDD and Hruotland, here's an option that matches the front end in it's shape:

11a being almost exactly the same as the profile of the front end, I thought that it might be too close and that led to 11b, which is slightly shortened to fit on the end of the "wing" better (as 11a was a little long).

Also, at the bottom is the angle that I'm thinking of having these at.

You will also notice in some of those pictures some small additions around the bike.
I added some long, thin strips to the lower front to represent vents between the outside and the underside (as you might see on the outside of an F1 car's rear wing).

Also, I drilled/carved some vent holes in the underside of the handlebar protectors (again for pressure equalisation).

And lastly, I've added some little canards to the "wings". I spent a long time trying to decide on how I was going to cut out some plastic and what shape it should be and then decided to look in my box and found these little pieces of plastic from a helicopter kit (I assume) and thought that they would do.


Thank you again for your thoughts, keep them coming.

11b works for me and fits the look better good call on shortening the length as well

I like the added bits on the wings as well the little details adds to the personal touch, this gets better with each update

I like 11a.

What the dog said!

...just... those are no canards.

Canards,or to be precise, canard wings, are small stabiliser wings placed before the main airfoil. (Just "Canard" means a plane with such configuration.) What you built looks like housings for control instruments for wind speed, air pressure and the like. Veeeeery cool you made some!

Dammit, Hruotland, I'm a Doctor, not an aeronautical engineer.

a Canard is also a duck.

They're just little wingy thingies that are stuck on in places to stabilise the air-flow in a useful way. Possibly housing sensors.

Thanks.

2 to 1 for the 11's. But you are still allowed to prefer the previous 10 options.

SENSORS- that was the word I didn't remember, Dr! anyways, if you ever need clarification on technical nomenclatura details no one will ever care for, I'm your man. My father is aviation engineer, and the last the last 40 years he has spent teaching me you drive nails, not screws, so "screwdriver" has to be named correctly "screw-turner"... you won't find a canard that's actually a poulard in MY kitchen, o no!

Always good to know people that know things.
He appears to talk sense. Never really thought about driving screws or nails, but yes, makes sense.
Can I suggest, as an alternative to Screw-turner, as the action to insert a screw is often "to screw" it could just be called a "screwer".


And now for something completely different...

You may be aware of the current LoER terrain competition, and I have mentioned my intention to make a UFO crash to fit the "accident" theme.

To start with a need to build the UFO (or should that now be UCO as it's crashed and not flying?) so that I can build the terrain around it, as it has no defined dimensions.

I didn't want to build a typical flying saucer (as I want to make a flying one for my army at some point, so don't want to have a crashed one as well), and I don't want it to look recognisable as a craft that would fit any known species.

So I have spent a lot of time going though all the stuff that I have collected together and tried to find something that sparked some inspiration.
I found a few things, some were put back. There was a moment where I was going to have an old 8cm computer fan (that was already broken) as the centre of the craft, but that said too much "atmospheric craft" for me. I wanted it to be interplanetary and have no obvious means of propulsion.

Then I found the tops off of the Britta water filters I've opened up for the "rivets" and "gravel" inside. One of these had a broken edge and I thought I could use that for some of the crash damage.

I needed to turn this into an enclosed vehicle, and being made of "not-polystyrene" this would mean that I couldn't just glue it to some plasticard and get a solid shape (it's quite soft and bendy). So I turned to my favourite material (sprue) to build a frame to hold the plasticard sheets in place while I figure out a way to attach the two halves.

What I turned to, to give a solid shape, was the large quantity of dental plaster I have laying about. Glued together with superglue and filled in with plaster and I had the start of a shape.

As I moved on to add more pieces (a piece from inside an underarm deodorant stick, and some pieces from the outside of a printer cartridge), I continued to fill in the gaps with plaster.

This is where I am at the moment. It's not a lot, and the rough surfaces, small gaps, etc. will be solved with Milliput in the future.


If you can't tell what this is going to become yet, join the club, as I don't know either.
It will get longer, probably 50-100% longer.
And I have plans for some bits that will (or did) stick out the side.

Don't worry about the jet bike, I've not stopped work on it, but as it will have some kind of scenic terrain base, I thought it would be useful to have some terrain work on the go at the same time and I can work on both in tandem.

Stay tuned to find out what the final shape will turn out to be, I'm just as interested to see....

One also drives wedges. A screw is more or less a wedge or inclined plane wrapped around a cylinder, so it is entirely correct to say screwdriver. At least in English. In German, uhm, Ich weiß nicht?

Remember the 5 classical simple machines?

I still have no idea what to build. Good to see inspiration has struck you.

I use the filter 'sand' from those filters too. Have not used the actual plastic part for anything.

Ah yes, I remember that from this book:


Well the UFO part is not so much inspiration, more like; find interesting shapes and start throwing them together.

I have a plan for the whole terrain piece, just don't/didn't know what the UFO would look like and how big it would be.

As I said, the plastic is not the best for sticking together, or creating structures from... but it is easily cut.

So, I have thrown a few more things at the UFO and I now have an idea of where I'm going.

The new parts are from:
The switch housing of a shower pull-cord (the black bit); really hard plastic, not ideal for modelling, best to use the whole thing and not try to cut it up.

Part of a cleaner spray handle (that bit that fits over the inside of your grip, y'know the bit between your thumb and hand), the green bit.

And the two ends of the battery compartment of a long dead head-torch. (the silvery, but clearly sanded parts).

The plan from here is to build an extension up from the green bit and have it curve forwards (or towards to white bit, Up, down, front and back are a bit "grey" with this thing), and to build a piece that has broken off the part that is downwards and will be buried in the ground (as in, it will be this way up in the final piece and what was attached there has broken off in the crash).

Then, the whole thing will be covered in surface details (much like Giger would have), gaps filled, damage added, etc...

UFO looking interesting - which is as it should be I guess

The term screw drive refers to the method of transferring momentum to the screw itself - hex drive, flat drive, cross drive, spline drive etc, so the instrument used to impart this can correctly be called a screwdriver

Hmm - the fact that we actually find this an interesting conversation might go some way to explaining the perception of model-makers as somewhat geeky

That UFO reminds me a little bit of those fast zooming thingies in Spielbergs "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". Cewl!

Concerning the "screwdriver" affair, I was trying to translate the spirit of the german conversation I use to have with my father on a regular base. In German, this tool is commonly named "Schraubenzieher". (Schraube=screw, "zieher"=puller, from "ziehen (to pull, or to pull something out)). The technical name of the device is "SchraubenDREHER" (dreher: turner, from to turn or to turn something around). Well, it makes sense for him, because he originally learned locksmith, and "his" kind of screws are of the metric persuasion with nuts on it. Me, I am working with wood, and wood screws are pulling themselves into the wood when you turn them around. Indeed carpenters talk about "eine Schraube einziehen" or "eine Schraube ins Holz ziehen" (pulling a screw into the wood). With wood his expression is also used for insertions of all kind, for example "einen Balken im Dachstuhl einziehen" (to pull a plank into the roof framework), or "einen Nagel einziehen" (to pull in a nail), wich totally makes NO sense, because indeed a nail is driven into the wood ("ein Nagel wird ins Holz getrieben"), not screwed. But's that's engineers for you, good for making planes fly, but totally overthinking when confronted with simple tasks like a bookshelf.

German lession over.

Hey, I remember the way things work. good book, very few mammoths .

 Hruotland wrote:
That UFO reminds me a little bit of those fast zooming thingies in Spielbergs "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". Cewl!

Concerning the "screwdriver" affair, I was trying to translate the spirit of the german conversation I use to have with my father on a regular base. In German, this tool is commonly named "Schraubenzieher". (Schraube=screw, "zieher"=puller, from "ziehen (to pull, or to pull something out)). The technical name of the device is "SchraubenDREHER" (dreher: turner, from to turn or to turn something around). Well, it makes sense for him, because he originally learned locksmith, and "his" kind of screws are of the metric persuasion with nuts on it. Me, I am working with wood, and wood screws are pulling themselves into the wood when you turn them around. Indeed carpenters talk about "eine Schraube einziehen" or "eine Schraube ins Holz ziehen" (pulling a screw into the wood). With wood his expression is also used for insertions of all kind, for example "einen Balken im Dachstuhl einziehen" (to pull a plank into the roof framework), or "einen Nagel einziehen" (to pull in a nail), wich totally makes NO sense, because indeed a nail is driven into the wood ("ein Nagel wird ins Holz getrieben"), not screwed. But's that's engineers for you, good for making planes fly, but totally overthinking when confronted with simple tasks like a bookshelf.

German lession over.

 Red Harvest wrote:
...In German, uhm, Ich weiß nicht...

Well, maybe a little more today than I did yesterday. Danke, Hruotland.

It is getting a 'scouting vehicle' vibe to it. Or a probe. Ooh, a Biomechanical probe (messy or no, at least things don't blow up in biochem... well, not often. Some of the odors though... nitrogen based stuff. So truly nasty. Putrescine Anyone?) It seems to be about the right size, judging from the jetbike in the background, for scale. I'd be worried how well some of those plastics will take paint.

That UFO is getting stranger by the moment! Which is a good thing!

I love how your "just throw things at it and see what sticks" makes the rest of us looking like babbling imbeciles.

I like 11b. Also are you sure you don't mean mallard? I thought a canard was an extended falsification. Oh the english language, so full of double meanings.

Canard does refer to a rumour or hoax in English, and a duck in French - with there being some link between the two - something about the selling of a duck that wasn't a duck forming the basis for it becoming synonymous with untruths.