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WayneTheGame wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

WayneTheGame wrote:
I like, but WHFB sucks for the most part, and of course there's the price.

Sucks? Uhh...

>Better game
>Less stupid miniatures

> Less popular
> Costs more
> Still clunky

Its less popular because you actually have to "play" your army. Not just go buy the latest greatest Cheese and win in the list creation phase

costs more is relative. You can play low model count armies just like you can play all terminator armies if you want less cost

Not even sure what you mean here, but I am assuming you are referring to the way movement is done? If so, see my first response....yes the most important phase in the game is the movement phase....40Ks most important phase is the wallet phase where you buy victories.

Gents, debating the merits of the game overall is really the subject for a different thread which you are welcome to start in the relevant subforum, the WHFB Disucssion section. Thanks.

 Eldarain wrote:
I like what they did with them. Though I was hoping for more of a Mortarch type box. With an Undivided mount and then bits to add to make each Herald of Archaon who follow each god.

Nah, not Chaos-y enough. Each mount should reflect a different god.

Still disappointed at the overflow of Nurgle, and I, too, will be pissed if the book is Nurgle-only. They already got their own book with that Tamurkhan thingy. Plus, I'll echo the sentiment that Tzeentch is now the only god without Mark-specific units for Warriors of Chaos.

I just hope as another poster stated that this isn't all that chaos will b getting. Nurgle has long been the only consistent reliable build for both WoC and Demons. They are the last in line of chaos that needs a helping hand.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I like what they did with them. Though I was hoping for more of a Mortarch type box. With an Undivided mount and then bits to add to make each Herald of Archaon who follow each god.

Nah, not Chaos-y enough. Each mount should reflect a different god.

Still disappointed at the overflow of Nurgle, and I, too, will be pissed if the book is Nurgle-only. They already got their own book with that Tamurkhan thingy. Plus, I'll echo the sentiment that Tzeentch is now the only god without Mark-specific units for Warriors of Chaos.

I'd have thought a Mutalith Vortex Beast is pretty Tzeentchian?

Also- I'll just leave this here for you all..

Except the vortex beast is terrible, so no one uses or buys it I imagine.

 Kirasu wrote:
Except the vortex beast is terrible, so no one uses or buys it I imagine.

And you'd know this how exactly?

Its not difficult to correlate bad rules to weaker sales.

Has anyone seen this, its full rules are available in the box on the construction sheet???
Is this new? I havent seen rules in a kit box in.....

Will these guys not get coverage then in end times 2?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Bloab-Rotspawned

 Kirasu wrote:
Its not difficult to correlate bad rules to weaker sales.

Cool. In that case, it should be easy to explain why Warhammer 40K is the best-selling wargame ever... by a large margin

 Ratius wrote:
Has anyone seen this, its full rules are available in the box on the construction sheet???
Is this new? I havent seen rules in a kit box in.....

Will these guys not get coverage then in end times 2?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Bloab-Rotspawned

Most likely they will, I think GW are just saying you don't necessarily need the end times vol 2 to play with em.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Its not difficult to correlate bad rules to weaker sales.

Cool. In that case, it should be easy to explain why Warhammer 40K is the best-selling wargame ever... by a large margin

2nd edition Dystopian Wars outsold 7th edition 40k 7:1 through Australia's largest FLGS.
7 to 1.
That same retailer has said that GW products are down to 10-15% of their total revenue.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I like what they did with them. Though I was hoping for more of a Mortarch type box. With an Undivided mount and then bits to add to make each Herald of Archaon who follow each god.

Nah, not Chaos-y enough. Each mount should reflect a different god.

Still disappointed at the overflow of Nurgle, and I, too, will be pissed if the book is Nurgle-only. They already got their own book with that Tamurkhan thingy. Plus, I'll echo the sentiment that Tzeentch is now the only god without Mark-specific units for Warriors of Chaos.

I'd have thought a Mutalith Vortex Beast is pretty Tzeentchian?

Also- I'll just leave this here for you all..

That thing looks enormous

Wonder if it has an alternate build as a GUO. Probably not...

 Flashman wrote:
Wonder if it has an alternate build as a GUO. Probably not...

It's a nice thought though.

Lose the riders, build a palanquin and it would make a good kugaath stand in. The right fist makes a good orifice for firing poo projectiles from.

Love it from that pic, but going t hold f he adulation until I see more pics, too often the leaked pics and later pics get completely different reaction from me.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
I like what they did with them. Though I was hoping for more of a Mortarch type box. With an Undivided mount and then bits to add to make each Herald of Archaon who follow each god.

Nah, not Chaos-y enough. Each mount should reflect a different god.

Still disappointed at the overflow of Nurgle, and I, too, will be pissed if the book is Nurgle-only. They already got their own book with that Tamurkhan thingy. Plus, I'll echo the sentiment that Tzeentch is now the only god without Mark-specific units for Warriors of Chaos.

I'd have thought a Mutalith Vortex Beast is pretty Tzeentchian?

Except the Vortex Beast is;
a) Terribly useless

b) Doesn't have the Mark of Tzeentch, ergo, it's not a Tzeentch unit! (it's really more of a super spawn)


Tzeentch has always been the eternally screwed over Chaos God... At least with the last DoC release we got the Burny Chariot and (eventually) rules for the Exalted Flamer on it's own.
Still, Tzeentch has no dedicated unit in the WoC book, and overall, he's always been the worst Chaos God rules-wise outside of the Lords/Heroes section.

I'm not sure the Vortex beast is any more Tzeentchian than it is Slaaneshi, but overall, super-spawn is how I think of it.

It also is a nice intersection between unfortunate pricing (still more expensive than the new nurgle beasties) and subpar rules (not horrible, but outclassed by other choices in the WoC list).

Nice model though.

I actually have the tentacles and icon, and I'm wondering how easy it would be to convert one of the new nurgle beasties into a vortex beast. There's a few nurgle icons to greenstuff over, but it shouldn't be hard.

 Ratius wrote:
Has anyone seen this, its full rules are available in the box on the construction sheet???
Is this new? I havent seen rules in a kit box in.....

Will these guys not get coverage then in end times 2?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Bloab-Rotspawned

From what I understand this is the same with all the other end times models. I picked up a box of the new spirit hosts (to use as rat swarms cause the spirit hosts are awesome models) but they also came with the rules for them.

I don't understand why they included the rules tho because if you want to use them you should have the undead legions book anyways.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

I know it's been posted a few separate times, but wow- that pic is epic. The model looks to have huge potential!

The smaller nurgle creations are really suffering from their joints being so visible (and the studio painters not covering the seams...) but this larger one could be amazing. Looking forward to more pics!

Anyone tried putting gutrot on a smaller base to use as a normal chaos lord? If so does he rank?

Subscribing so I can see better pictures of that Glottkin when they leak !

So um, yeah... Looks like this might have what we've all been waiting for:


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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Ganked from Facebook, so take with a grain of salt.

I can confirm, I have it as well.

Chaos Legions, you say?

 morganfreeman wrote:
Chaos Legions, you say?

Just like undead legions.


At least now people know that its ment to be infantry not monstrous infantry.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Khorne has all sorts of crap going for him.

Where the hell is that Tzeentch love?! They're dedicated units are as follows:
-Rubric marines (crap)
-Pink horrors
-Flamers
-Screamers
-2 wizards
-weird chariot flamer thing
-ancient metal greater daemon models.
I don't play demons specifically but new stuff to work with for my Navigator House stuff is nice.

Even though that's all true, Slaanesh has it the worst of them all. Slaanesh dedicated units are as follows:
-Noise Marines
-Daemonettes
-Fiends (only 2 of previously 3 available variations)
-Seekers (with bad rider models that aren't dynamic at all)
-1 Herald
-Chariot
-an equally ancient greater daemon model...

Also,
-Finecast, not metal
-Each god has a named herald that has a model. They're all consistent with the current range except Epidemius (Nurgle, ironically!)

Generally speaking, there's a lot of things to fix with the chaos daemons as a miniatures product line. Even moreso if you consider god-specific models in general. At least in 40k.

 Quarterdime wrote:

-an equally ancient greater daemon model...

If by equally ancient you meant originally released 2+ years after the LoC, sure. The Keeper is actually the youngest of the Greater Daemons.

 chiefbigredman wrote:

 morganfreeman wrote:
Chaos Legions, you say?

Just like undead legions.


At least now people know that its ment to be infantry not monstrous infantry.

Thank the gods, otherwise they'd make Ogre Kingdoms look inadequate in every possibly manner.