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Izural wrote:
I've already said 0 points over, but I don't understand the kerfuffle people are still having.

Rules are rules. You don't measure out a Bolter to 25" and go "close enough" do you?

5pts, out of 1850, is roughly a 0.3% error. A full inch on 24" is a 5% variance. To answer your question: sure, I don't question every measure. If my opponent either actually thinks it's in range, or is willing to actively fudge it, I'd generally allow it.

Do you go into a shop, go to buy something for £2, give the shop keeper £1.50, and say "It's close enough to the asking price so shut up"?

No, but I don't argue with shop keeps over pennies either.

I personally, do not deal in "ish's". The limit is not 1500-ish. Bolters are not 24"-ish and the price was not £2-ish.
You are gaining some semblance of advantage whether you recognise it or not, to say otherwise is ignorance.

If I run a list at 1500 points, but go over by 5 pts because I included a 375 pt Imperial Knight, how is that fair to my opponent?

And the world would end! A tiny advantage!

In friendly games 1-5 points b/c it's for fluff, in tournies zero. I'm not playing a WAAC guy who also doesn't have the decency to follow the basic rules.

Izural wrote:
I've already said 0 points over, but I don't understand the kerfuffle people are still having.

Rules are rules. You don't measure out a Bolter to 25" and go "close enough" do you?

Do you go into a shop, go to buy something for £2, give the shop keeper £1.50, and say "It's close enough to the asking price so shut up"?

I personally, do not deal in "ish's". The limit is not 1500-ish. Bolters are not 24"-ish and the price was not £2-ish.
You are gaining some semblance of advantage whether you recognise it or not, to say otherwise is ignorance.

If I run a list at 1500 points, but go over by 5 pts because I included a 375 pt Imperial Knight, how is that fair to my opponent?

Well, actually, unless they're measuring distances with their tape flat on the table, odds are good that most people ARE measuring their bolters out to 25" or more, because of the angle we view that final point on the tape from.

I lay my tape completely flat. No angles to make mistakes with.

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 jreilly89 wrote:
Nope, if you go over your points limit, you are literally Hitler.

And Godwin's Law has been reached. Outstanding.

Only kinda relevant, but I was watching a show about people who hunt down mythological treasures like the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail and whatnot, along with more modern ones like that room lined with amber that went missing and turned out to have been destroyed to prevent it from falling into enemy hands.

I wasn't entirely paying attention at the time, but I swear they referred to one of the higher-ups in that party as "...the kind of guy who'd be playing Warhammer if he lived today."

It still weirds me out to hear people on TV talking about nerdy gaming hobbies so casually.


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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I lay my tape completely flat. No angles to make mistakes with.

Awesome.

My measuring tape is sadly too big to lay flat on the table without having to move nearby models, and there's usually uneven terrain in the way. I compensate by measuring movement with the tape nearly touching a fixed point of a model, such as an infantry's head, or a Rhino's smokestack thingy, and end with that same part touching it. And when shooting, I ask my mom (my only opponent for the past decade) to check whether I'm in range, and what I'm in range of, while I focus on making sure my end doesn't start sliding forward. It's not just measuring tapes that do that, often while playing video games and spamming my filler attack while watching for battlefield hazards or dodging area effect attacks, I suddenly stop attacking, then I look back at my ability bar, and my pointer has moved off of the button, without me feeling my hand move.

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Only kinda relevant, but I was watching a show about people who hunt down mythological treasures like the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail and whatnot, along with more modern ones like that room lined with amber that went missing and turned out to have been destroyed to prevent it from falling into enemy hands.

I wasn't entirely paying attention at the time, but I swear they referred to one of the higher-ups in that party as "...the kind of guy who'd be playing Warhammer if he lived today."