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2014/04/15 21:27:10
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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PsychoticStorm wrote:Not that easy, especially in metal, biggest question is why they insist in that anachronism.
It's a piece of piss.
I've been doing hundreds of my 15mm ACW infantry. A few seconds per model.
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2014/04/15 21:53:24
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Hacking Interventor
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I love the GoA stuff and the elusive ogre girls in the back got my attention as well!
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2014/04/15 22:13:04
Subject: Re:Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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@ Pacific & Edlowe
Awesome, thanks for the pics guys. It looks like the Algoryn and Concord trooper have printed up almost exact to their renders, hopefully that will transfer through
to the final casting, and the integrated bases while not preferred at least look relativity unobtrusive and easy to remove.
Did anyone manage to snap a pic of the Isorain trooper up close? Been looking around and haven't found a good picture anywhere, not a big deal if you haven't
we should get an update pretty soon.
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2014/04/16 00:45:11
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Fixture of Dakka
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edlowe wrote:Seems a lot of negativity towards GoA, I know alot of people, me included, were let down by the kickstarter, however I rather like the boromites and the setting as a whole.
It just seems people are trying to find bad points where they can I.e. calling hansa a porn star or saying the boromites are 80's flashbacks. I know some of this could be people trying to score 'internet cool' points but it seems there are people who just dont want to give this a chance.
You can go back and review the KS project for your "Internet cool point" comment.
Honestly what happened was that people were majorly let down by someone who was hailed as the second coming of scifi games based on past performance, then ran off in a snit when the product was not as presented.
Figures are OK. not stellar, but they are pretty good, compared to the market.
The game is shaping up very well, and could stand to have some love injected into it for the fans, not just to be touted out and teased.
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2014/04/16 00:50:10
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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For as good as some of the armored troopers are, those rock guys still look awful.
I can't wait till some smartass gets them, decides to paint them brown, and declares he's playing with the gak goblin army.
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2014/04/16 06:58:15
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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I would've expected them to be painted orange and have it be a Thing army.
Are we sure those integrated bases are actually a part of the final product? It looks to me like they might just be part of the prototypes.
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2014/04/16 15:47:59
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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They've already stated somewhere that its in the plan for them to have integrated bases. Is it a big deal? Not particularly, however, there is a lot of competition out there for hobby cash, and everything else being equal, if it comes down to it, I'd rather buy a mini with a slotta base, or nothing at all on the bottom.
My money is being split across x wing, infinity, dust, war machine, 40k and WHFB. The integrated bases are enough of a pain in the ass to put me off buying into their system, because there are a lot of other shines out there that don't take quite so long to prep. It may only take 5 minutes to fix, but times that 5 minutes by 40-50 models, and it gets boring fast...
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2014/04/16 16:10:33
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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It takes me about 10 seconds to "fix" one of my 15mm ACW bases, and I only have to do it because I am transferring them on to smaller bases.
These models will be based one per 25mm or 30mm base and can just be cemented straight on top.
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2014/04/16 16:22:33
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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That's great. You go for it. It takes me longer. Hansa took me a while to clip it off, file it down etc. I've been experimenting with scenic bases, so just glueing a flat bit of metal to the base doesn't work for me. Each to their own.
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2014/04/16 16:38:10
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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I found a blog with some bigger pictures of the Gates of Antares stuff at Salute. Particularly the Isorian.
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=105591
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2014/04/16 16:43:20
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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silent25 wrote:
Not the strongest offering for the first new figs for the range.
I personally think these figures looks really great, as does anything else in this exciting line.
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2014/04/16 17:01:37
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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2014/04/16 17:02:05
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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sing your life wrote:
I personally think these figures looks really great, as does anything else in this exciting line.
Really?
And I'm with Eggs - integrated bases suck.
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2014/04/16 17:06:07
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Alpharius wrote: sing your life wrote:
I personally think these figures looks really great, as does anything else in this exciting line.
Really?
And I'm with Eggs - integrated bases suck.
Silent wasn't talking about integral bases [anyway they look more like standard lip bases with toppers], but instead saying that some finely detailed, characterful miniatures somehow suck.
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2014/04/16 17:27:54
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Well, if that is what he was saying, I'm not agreeing with that!
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2014/04/16 17:54:32
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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sing your life wrote:
Silent wasn't talking about integral bases [anyway they look more like standard lip bases with toppers], but instead saying that some finely detailed, characterful miniatures somehow suck.
The late 80's/early 90's called and they want their mediocre sculpts back.
Sorry but those are finely detailed and characterful in the same way that the Mutant Chronicles and really old RT/2nd edition sculpts are in this day and age but have none of the nostalgia. I'll agree that the algoryns are much better but these things are straight up antiquated in both detail and styling.
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2014/04/16 17:57:06
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Pious Warrior Priest
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I like them because they look like 2nd edition sculpts.
Integral bases are fine too, they add some extra heft.
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2014/04/16 18:10:57
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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scarletsquig wrote:I like them because they look like 2nd edition sculpts.
Integral bases are fine too, they add some extra heft.
How old are you?!?
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2014/04/16 18:12:48
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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Some people get stuck in a "new is always better" mindset. One of my favorite things about 90s approaches to miniatures was the great depth of detail make it easier to paint them. I'll take figures like these with nice deep details over a really cutting edge type sculpt with super shallow details,
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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2014/04/16 18:24:00
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Raging Rat Ogre
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I was fortunate enough to attend Salute and saw these guys up close and personal, I'd initally written them off going by the bad rep they've had on 'net forums... however, seeing them for real has completely changed my mind, they're actually very nice little models.
As was the Taurox, actually. Though Zinge's wheels might have had something to do with that
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2014/04/16 19:17:43
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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The bio tech faction shapes up nicely.
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2014/04/16 19:47:39
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Camouflaged Zero
Maryland
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What really annoys me about the integrated bases issue is that they are removing them for promo figures. In the Salute photos from p.13, the Hansa figure has clearly had his integral base removed, and I'd be willing to bet that most of the Boromites have had the same treatment. Why even include them at all? Nostalgia?
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2014/04/16 20:02:01
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Good point.
Clearly they are aware that they are an 'issue' for some...
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2014/04/16 20:06:33
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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It's how things are done in historicals. A small metal base that is glued onto the game base and then integrated into the base with basing material.
I've removed some of them from some metal Reaper models and it was a huge pain in the ass, but Warlord's integrated bases are usually a whole lot more slight.
I prefer small shallow integrated bases to slottabases/tabs by far.
I think in a lot of cases, these preferences have more to do with what's comfortable than an actual weighing of the pros and cons.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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2014/04/16 20:07:01
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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I like the classic sci fi look and what detail they have is sharply moulded.
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2014/04/16 20:08:03
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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I think the Boromites are shaping up to be my favorite faction. Love the retro flash gordon rock man look plus their big rock canon.
Not too bothered about the intergrated bases, admittedly I hate them on Mantics warpath figures but thats to do with their plastic bases. I think they will be fine sunk into the GoA bases.
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2014/04/17 05:29:28
Subject: Re:Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Shade of Despair and Torment
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Boromites remind me of the twilight zone episode with thing on the wing...
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2014/04/17 21:40:51
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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A little more information about the plan for Antares came out in an interview Rick Priestley. Here are a few things that stood out to me.
The focus is meant to be narrative games with roleplay elements.
It is intended as at most a large skirmish game. It can't get too much bigger because of the Bolt Action dice activation mechanic.
The goal is June/July for basic alpha version PDF download with basic infantry rules in it.
Model ranges should start to come out around the same time. Boromites first, but Algoryn around the same time.
They aim to have regular miniature releases between July and December 2014.
Very rough target of middle of 2015 for the finished rules to go on sale, though it depends on a lot of things that haven't even started yet.
The background is meant to be an open universe that people can add their own ideas to, and that new factions can be added to over time. There is intentionally huge scope for factions, individual Freeborn vardos, etc.
Boromite faction models are basically all done. The frag borer and mag launcher need to be 3D printed (or did at the time, as it looks like at least the frag borer was at Salute).
In general, an initial core playable force for a faction will be something like: 2-3 troop types, a command troop type, and around 3 support weapon troop types.
The source is this podcost: http://malifools.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/daily/
If you've been following the news, there isn't anything really new, aside from what I've mentioned.
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2014/04/17 22:20:20
Subject: Warlord Games: Gates of Antares New Release
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Those are much nicer models in general. I'd possibly be tempted to use them with my Tau. That is, assuming I ever assemble/paint/use my Tau...
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2014/04/17 23:41:25
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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I already do sci-fi with Bolt Action + House Rules, so I'm sure the game will be good and functional.
The model ranges have differing levels of appeal, but it shouldn't be too hard to entirely proxy a given army given that it's standard sci-fi fare of humanoid troopers with guns + support.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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