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Greece

The project has a good chance to start getting some momentum after it hits 400k and gets that free expansion.

That been said I was expecting it to move through both streatchgoals (315k and 330k) faster than it does now (which is a slow and agonizing grind).

It i s an error to allow the fans to get the initiative in keeping the community, I am assuming the Myth distribution didn't go that well and they need more hands in handling the issues of broken models, missing packs ectr, that eats up their time for Recon.
   
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Perhaps they should have held off on this project until they had Myth put to bed....


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Greece

I think that was thoroughly discussed in the first pages.... and their kinda arrogant response...
   
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 Salacious Greed wrote:
Cpt Jake,

Yeah, I send the creators a message. I don't post in "general population". It is too full of the psycophants and hard cases. Nothing really gets pulled out of there.


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I think the madness on the comments section may be part of why they haven't responded much there,..... There's too much BS going on there,... And just searching through to find questions to answer must be nuts.

It sounds like they are also pretty busy working on the new Myth updated rules that they plan to ship in the second wave, not to mention new game play videos for both MYTH and Recon,..... No rest for the weary!
   
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I'm all for gameplay video. I just hope they throw themselves back into this, as they're neck deep in this KS.

If they aren't going to flesh the starting 4 factions out to 10 Mercs each, I hope they've got the USCR queued up next, as I'd love to see them in plastic. Well, minus door kicking guy. Please rescuplt him, miniature sculpting gods, just, please. In the immortal words of an officemate: "I won't send you his first born, but I'll send you his oldest!"
   
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They already said that the USCR Booster (the door kicking guy) is getting a resculpt as part of the KS,... And I agree,... My metal one is still awaiting personal modification of his pose.

I'm hoping that every 100k goal after 400k gets a mission pack! That would get every faction with a mission pack by the $1M mark (with just the two optional add ons from Sefadu and Texico),...... I can dream

   
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Cincinnati, Ohio

I kinda like the dude kicking in the door.....

If anyone has him that they really want to unload I'll help ya out.

 
   
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Greece

 yamato wrote:
They already said that the USCR Booster (the door kicking guy) is getting a resculpt as part of the KS,... And I agree,... My metal one is still awaiting personal modification of his pose.

I'm hoping that every 100k goal after 400k gets a mission pack! That would get every faction with a mission pack by the $1M mark (with just the two optional add ons from Sefadu and Texico),...... I can dream



That is assuming it will get to 1M mark which is not a guarantee at the moment, the decline is a steady one and it reflects the product not reaching a deal you can't resist status yet.





Are they hoping for this?


There is no guarantee for that, if nothing else it looks like the graph reversed.

They lost a huge potential with the initial rush and now with the inactivity and the huge unreasonable gaps in the streatchgoals.... they need to put a huge effort in making it work.

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Just remember: they have no competition in this gamespace.

   
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Is it 80% done too?

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Are you trying to compare this to the Robotech KS?

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Greece

No, but how did you arrive in this conclusion?
   
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Svalarheima, MA

The graph looks similar to MYTH, aside from the 'baked in' support at the start!

Someone noted that MYTH took a while to get to be that "Too Good To Resist" deal - and it may take that long here too, plus a little extra to wear away the "We Are Big Players" assumption too?

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Greece

Maybe, my estimation is the 400k free expansion might be a good chance for t to get some pace, problem is how fast can it grind that 72k...
   
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At 5-6K a day that 72K takes a while.

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 Alpharius wrote:
The graph looks similar to MYTH, aside from the 'baked in' support at the start!

Someone noted that MYTH took a while to get to be that "Too Good To Resist" deal - and it may take that long here too, plus a little extra to wear away the "We Are Big Players" assumption too?


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 PsychoticStorm wrote:
No, but how did you arrive in this conclusion?


Sorry not directed at you, was referencing Sining's '80% done.' Its something I hear alot whenever that other KS is mentioned.

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I think that we will see an increase once they actually try to promote it. Ads on BGG only started yesterday,... And at the smallest rate,.... They did the ramp up process really well with MYTH through the beefing up of the ads, promotions on beasts of War,... BGG contest, and then the cross promotions of zpocalypse and KD. They also did show promotions at Adepticon which started the initial push.

Also, if you look at most of the bigger minis based board game campaigns,... There always seem to be a bunch of fence sitters that wait wait wait and wait some more,... Then jump in at the end when all the goodies are revealed.

I don't think they should be worried,... They have a plan,.... MYTH was not so successful just because it looked cool,.... They worked to get it noticed and promoted.
   
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Greece

To get the "fence sitters" this must become a good deal, which clearly now isn't and at this rate it may become too late.


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Well we have some movement, at least.

Now this is how you should not make a presentation video.


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Well, we cleared $330k. But their update didn't make me want to hop off the fence. Even the tone of the writing was kind of desultory, as if they're sad at the progress like I am.

The SG updates were....I don't know. Usually I dig when a game upgrades its paper counters to a tangible counter. But the bullets really don't signify the same as a potion bottle, health heart, gold coin or guild token does. And while I'm glad to see the USCR thrown in to be unlocked, I'm going to have to buy it (which is fine), but that's $145k to go before they offer more things to buy, not driving the ability to add to pledges for those already pledged. And are they saying at $450k they design another 2 poses of SecFor 3, or just give us 4 more to add to the 10 in the games? I want more SecFor 1 FFS.

Did the SGs feel sort of random and make you scratch your head in Myth? In the majority of the KS campaigns I follow, the SGs seem to drive the funding. This one doesn't really seem to be. I don't know what to make of it.

And while I applaud them for having a planned twist on how to play the game, with the Infection expansion, I don't feel that the base games and other expansions are filled out yet, so that's another head scratcher for me. I guess they feel by that time that all the tokens in the game are upgraded to figures. I just hope they offer the SecFor 1 guys as optional buys, as I know the game is going to need more than 6, as they put 11 SecFor 1 tokens in each basic game box.
   
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Svalarheima, MA

What he's talking about up there^!

Update #25

Mar 25 2014
A Little Help From My Friends
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It has been a yo-yo kind of day.

Thankfully we've unlocked the next Assassination Protocol minis. The KemVar Monkeywrench is a very important figure for KemVar. We'll talk more about KemVar in the faction overview video soon. The Monkeywrench helps supplement what tend to be fairly small Soak dice pools. The Waza Demo (I love this mini!) has a very interesting acid grenade. It obviously causes a lot of collateral damage but also assists with the B&C action in a unique way.


Assassination Protocol reinforcements.

We also promised to show the next four stretch goals. This will be the last we show for a while (unless we start unlocking them). We'll start hitting you with videos every other day and mini updates. We are in the valley but that doesn't mean we can't make it beautiful. Enjoy a glimpse of the hopeful future.



Myth backers will receive 4 Infected as part of the Myth pledge. The Infected Mission Pack, which can be used in Recon and Myth, will be an add-on.

Anyway, congrats on two more minis.


I see what you're saying about the overall 'tone', but, I'll admit, I'm excited about this one, and really looking forward to seeing where it goes from here!

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Greece

They seem to think that they will not bring in more new people and center in making the current pledgers spend more, I cannot explain why else would all the expansion packs to be unlocks would be in additional purchases....

That is not the way to make the core pledge attractive I am afraid.
   
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That's one of the things really putting me off right now by $500k there will be 4 paid for $25 expansions and likely more planned.
   
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Greece

They seem to somehow fail to grasp how Kickstarter works and flows.
   
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Svalarheima, MA

They certainly didn't with MYTH though.

But maybe that got them a bit over their heads in terms of fulfillment and profit?

I think (hope!) that by $500K and 4 paid add-ons that that will be it, and the rest of the way with add to the $120+ pledge level, thereby making it a 'must buy' and making it a success for both sides!

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Greece

That's what puzzles me, its not their first and should have the experience from Myth to help their decisions.

   
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 PsychoticStorm wrote:
They seem to somehow fail to grasp how Kickstarter works and flows.


I dunno, they're funding is at a level most projects would kill for. Perhaps you just don't have insight into their costs and goals.


   
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 Alpharius wrote:
They certainly didn't with MYTH though.

But maybe that got them a bit over their heads in terms of fulfillment and profit?

I think (hope!) that by $500K and 4 paid add-ons that that will be it, and the rest of the way with add to the $120+ pledge level, thereby making it a 'must buy' and making it a success for both sides!


I hope so! MYTH was slow in the middle too,... I just hope that they start more ads to get people to the page,.... I'm also underwhelmed by these new goals,.... I expected another free mission pack at 500,.... And those bullets,?????? I understand upgraded tokens,... But I'd rather have a wooden cube,... They just look a little to campy for me.




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 PsychoticStorm wrote:
That's what puzzles me, its not their first and should have the experience from Myth to help their decisions.



I'd bet that they are not making any profit on the MYTH KS before retail sales start to roll in,...... I can't see how,.... Recon has a bunch of unique molds to tool,..... They must be playing it carefully.


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Ugh,... And no info on just what that Infected Mission pack is until it unlocks @$500k

I guess I'd assume that it is all enemies and new missions,.... No MERCS or employee models?

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The Empire State

If they wanted plastic tokens, why not just go the route Gf9 does with their plastic high quality tokens?

or even the litko aero style.

The bullets look meh.

And the guy kicking down the door was one of my fav. minis from their line.

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