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 Bioptic wrote:
Yes, Sodapop has never released a single Kickstarter-exclusive item ever. Everything is available to order from their store, just usually at significantly higher prices than Kickstarter ones (e.g. $13 for a single boardgame plastic character).

The base pledge is a very steep discount, the expansions are an unknown discount (I'd say probably at least 25% more expensive at RRP, but you might be able to get a better discount from 3rd parties)/

There were 2 I think. Relic Knights Gabe and Tycho

Sining wrote:

 Bioptic wrote:
Yes, Sodapop has never released a single Kickstarter-exclusive item ever. Everything is available to order from their store, just usually at significantly higher prices than Kickstarter ones (e.g. $13 for a single boardgame plastic character).

The base pledge is a very steep discount, the expansions are an unknown discount (I'd say probably at least 25% more expensive at RRP, but you might be able to get a better discount from 3rd parties)/

There were 2 I think. Relic Knights Gabe and Tycho

The Relic Knights campaign had some yeah - but that was when they were still a part of CMON. I'd imagine exclusives were mandated then - seeing how many they cram into every KS they do.

New stuff fro relic knights

May 2016 New Releeases!
Void - Void Witch
Prismatic - Dad D. Startship

Space Dandy is a must have. Not sure if the girls are supposed to be a reference to anything though.

Larger pictures of the May releases and concept artwork for them:

Dan D.



Void Witch

I like the Void Witch, but that left-handed sleeve doesn't look right. I understand she's supposed to have thrown her arm up,l with the sleeve is already on the backswing, but it doesn't flow with the rest of model.

A non-chibi miniature Kickstarter might perk my interest depending on the price and material. The market can always use more of 28mmish anime style miniatures.

Well, Sodapop has confirmed that all new additions to Relic Knights will be in resin only, and at frankly bonkers prices ($15-$20 for a human-sized model)! So my interest has effectively been killed, which is a shame given my buy-in on the original Kickstarter.

I don't think they'd both with a new Kickstarter, since as far as I'm aware resin production doesn't benefit from economies of scale, and they seem to have plenty of money knocking around.

SPM has money because they have funded the SDE Legends. But they will need to spend a big chunk of that to deliver to backers...

 Bioptic wrote:
Well, Sodapop has confirmed that all new additions to Relic Knights will be in resin only, and at frankly bonkers prices ($15-$20 for a human-sized model)! So my interest has effectively been killed, which is a shame given my buy-in on the original Kickstarter.

Dan D. is listed for $30. (About $10 a figure before etailer discounts, which I don't think is that bad a price.)
Void Witch's listing has her at $18.

Relic Knight's as a whole is definitely not a great value proposition - especially given the quality of some of the products - but there are reasonable offerings. The newer resin human-sized figures should go for between $10-$15 through online retailers.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
SPM has money because they have funded the SDE Legends. But they will need to spend a big chunk of that to deliver to backers...

I'm starting to wonder how necessary kickstarter is to SPM's daily operations. With them serving as publisher to a growing list of games, I doubt they're on the verge of collapse but SPM proper doesn't seem to do anything without KS backing.

They do produce an occasional surprise mini for SDE just out of the blue.

But at this point, why would they produce anything without a KS first? Seems like a much safer route for them to get all the money they need for a project upfront.

I just wish they would slow down on them a bit.

Given the choice between using its own money or risk-free investments, I think we know which a business will choose. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing or faulting them for it.

However, using their own money does show they have money to spend and aren't living KS-paycheck to KS-paycheck, which was more my point in the previous post; musing on how necessary kickstarter is for SPM to put out a product (like what they'd normally fund through KS), turn a profit, or continue to exist as a business.

I dunno - I don't get the impression that they are strapped. And keep in mind - SDE 1.0 and the first few expansions were all launched and became successful products pre-"everything is KS" days.

And I think for as long as they've been around, and with their track record for successful products, they wouldn't have a hard time securing traditional funding if they wanted to.

Right. They aren't going away any time soon. I just find the frequency of KS campaigns on their part a bit curious. Though CMoN certainly runs more.

As long as KS exists EVERY business will go through it for any new product....every prudently operated business anyway. It is both good and bad for a host of reasons on each account.

Soda Pop is probably financially very healthy but that does not mean that they can still accomplish EVERYTHING their kickstarters allow them to. CMoN much the same only in their case they probably can afford to produce everything their KS's " allow " them to out of pocket. BUT even if they CAN afford to produce a product out of pocket with all the bells and whistles is it prudent to do so??

Kickstarter is the go to solution for new products for a variety of reasons. Chief among them being guaranteed return on investment and, most often for the larger companies guaranteed profit as well.

The discounter market GUTS the value of any product put on to shelves and so the pricing is set accordingly. Kickstarter helps by pass that reduction in profit margin even if only slightly being that kickstarter removes 10% of the total earned and then you typically see at least a 20 % mark down in the pledge prices as well.

No matter how big or healthy a company may seem they NEED to profit off of every item they produce or else that production is not worth while and they stop doing it.

^ exactly so!

 tre manor wrote:
No matter how big or healthy a company may seem they NEED to profit off of every item they produce or else that production is not worth while and they stop doing it.

Not true at all. Loss leaders for one, and popular products that support less popular ones (that the company likes or gets prestige from) for another, are areas where companies very often don't get stupendous profits off everything.

Not getting stupendous profits is still profiting. I'm not sure there's a need to split hairs about that

By not getting stupendous profits, I meant "knowingly going into a situation expecting to lose money on certain items."

He made a categorical statement that I disagree with. That's all.

Photos of the actual models.

Dan D.

Pepper

Pixel

Void Witch

Now were these releases going to be resin or PVC? I forget when they were going to switch over- or did I imagine it?

Resin,

all the stuff from now on is

Thanks Orlando.


Weirdly the detail still looks a little soft to me, but maybe that's just the style they're going for.

It does, especially on Dan D. Look at his raised hand.

Rhouss Fixer, a scrappy cyberpunk technician for any Radiant cadre, joins Relic Knights!

RHOUSS FIXER
NJD147012 | MSRP $14.95

Rhouss Fixer is a finely detailed resin model for the Radiant factions in Relic Knights. Rhouss
Fixer is a scrappy nomad that commands impressive technical skill and tactical offense, making
it an asset to any team. Rhouss Fixer is a unique addition to Relic Knights, allowing Radiant
cadres to launch powerful supportive and offensive attacks that truly demonstrate the Rhouss’s
resolve to persevere.

The newest chapter in the Relic Knights saga continues with a premium collector's line of resin
hobby models. Expanding the game with new, exciting characters and rich gameplay, each
Relic Knights model is expertly cast to capture the dynamic anime aesthetic of the Relic Knights
universe. With two assembly options to choose from, Rhouss Fixer is a feisty figurine ready to
fix or frag any problem that gets in the way!

CONTENTS
● Rhouss Fixer Model,
With Two Pose Options
(Assembly Required)
● Reference Card
● Tracker Card
● 30mm Base

Prismatics Faction
Highly Detailed Resin Model

So, Ratchet, but no Clank?

Was browsing the Soda Pop store and noticed Castellan priced at $69.95 instead of the previous $84.95.

The product info on its webpage still reads $85 MSRP so unsure if the lower price is discounted, new price, or an error.

Probably realised no one is buying that at 85.

And they need more void releases. Void has 3 choices compared to Prismatics 6.

Ninja Division Discontinuing Hell Dorado


Ninja Division Publishing, in cooperation with Cipher Studios, officially announce that the Hell Dorado miniature skirmish game is being discontinued. Ninja Division and Cipher Studios would like to thank Hell Dorado’s passionate fan base for their support through the last several years.

Effective immediately, all stock of Hell Dorado (http://sodapopminiatures.com/hell-dorado) and Anima Tactics (http://sodapopminiatures.com/anima-tactics) in the Soda Pop Store will be discounted at 75%. The discount applies only to existing stock and no back orders will be made.

sad news if you play the games, but not unexpected as they'd been relegated to online only,

but decent discounts if you want to pick up a few minis (and remember the Ninja Ship option means at least postage to Europe is decent)

Wait.. Hell Dorado wasn't already discontinued? I thought that and Anima were axed a long time ago.. !!!! This is good news.. and.. simultaneously bad news :/

Neither was being supplied to stores anymore but the minis had remained orderable from the sodapop store and were restocked as needed

(and helldorado was theoretically meant to be getting the occasional new release via that route as well although I never noticed if it happened)