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It's been so long that I had to go look at the KS page to see if I'm an EB backer (I'm not).

 DaveC wrote:
The PM is only open today for EB Quarantine backers the others will go out from Monday.

I'm curious about the increased shipping costs the update doesn't give monetary details.

A naked Lockdown pledge is $30 shipping

Well Mantic is going to get to keep my $1 pledge, they can use it to offset the shipping . I'm going to wait to see my Dungeon Saga and KOW2 stuff first before I give over any more money. Besides my pledges for Zombicide, MODcube and others have drained my limited gaming reserve.

 NTRabbit wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The PM is only open today for EB Quarantine backers the others will go out from Monday.

I'm curious about the increased shipping costs the update doesn't give monetary details.

A naked Lockdown pledge is $30 shipping

To Australia? They guesstimated that a Quarantine would be $25 to Australia, and Lock Down is twice a heavy so I guess it's actually a better deal than expected?

 NTRabbit wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The PM is only open today for EB Quarantine backers the others will go out from Monday.

I'm curious about the increased shipping costs the update doesn't give monetary details.

A naked Lockdown pledge is $30 shipping

And quarantine is $15

Quarantine and Lockdown with no add ons were both $30 to me in Australia so yeah, I think for us at least most pledges will fall into one bigass weight category

lol, that shipping.. bwahahaaha.. I came to Mantic for cheap minis.. but the shipping is going to negate my reason for coming to them.. sigh

How much is the US Shipping?

Will probably just buy the KS exclusives then get the rest at retail.

The revised DOG drone

It does look better - and is the scale correct?

Is it that big?

Probably not to scale

That design is better but the pose is pants..

MUCH better!

 DaveC wrote:
The revised DOG drone

https://d1htudrglphc02.cloudfront.net/pledgemanager/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/22122633/DZ-enforcer-pathfinders-51.jpg

The drone is much less terrible, but still pretty bad. And the proportions on the female soldier at the front are crap - they made the hips and waist narrower instead of the chest, the exact opposite of how you sculpt a woman.

That drone looks pretty silly, I prefer the more practical and less "cool transformer dog" look of the original. The pathfinders look ace though! ...but what's up with that poor girl's waist? Is she wearing a corset?

Yeah I like the original Dog better as well.

New design looks to scale to me, if anything it might be a bit bigger in reality - it was never small

I think I slightly preferred the walking container too.

Going from the photo alone, deciding to do male and female pathfinder enforcers in the same batch with interchangeable torsos was a mistake.

The dog is a classic "almost," and I say that as someone who's tired of that meme, but if the meme fits. . . Give it a slight walking / stalking pose, tone down the ham-fisted enforcer shoulder pad design reference, replace the back-mounted gun turret with one that looks like it belongs there (that Enforcer heavy gun only looks good when an Enforcer is holding it - I wish they'd stop mounting it on drones, buildings, and vehicles), and it would have looked awesome and the kit would have sold better. In the short term they made a deadline, over the long term they're stuck with having to store / sell / Crazy Christmas box umpteen copies of the thing.

Depending on how one-piece solid / hard to cut it is, the dog might have potential for those willing to put in the time to modify it.

 Vermonter wrote:
Going from the photo alone, deciding to do male and female pathfinder enforcers in the same batch with interchangeable torsos was a mistake.

The dog is a classic "almost," and I say that as someone who's tired of that meme, but if the meme fits. . . Give it a slight walking / stalking pose, tone down the ham-fisted enforcer shoulder pad design reference, replace the back-mounted gun turret with one that looks like it belongs there (that Enforcer heavy gun only looks good when an Enforcer is holding it - I wish they'd stop mounting it on drones, buildings, and vehicles), and it would have looked awesome and the kit would have sold better. In the short term they made a deadline, over the long term they're stuck with having to store / sell / Crazy Christmas box umpteen copies of the thing.

Depending on how one-piece solid / hard to cut it is, the dog might have potential for those willing to put in the time to modify it.

So, out of curiosity, what are the sales figures for the kit that hasn't been sold yet? I'm dying to know.

The shoulder pads, head and tail really make that model look goofy. It looks like one episode reject from Rescue Bots. However, if those parts are easy to cut off, the drone will look pretty good for what I would want.

I wonder how they would look next to Robotech or DZC mecha.

Well the pledge manager openning on monday for now eb backers has me in a conundrum. I'm still waiting to hear or see whats happening with the wp:ff rules and if they are definitely being developed. I'm not sure if I still want to pick up some vermyn because their cheaper now or wait till we hear more.

I'm thinking of just grabbing some of the plastics as going to be much cheaper now than post ks.

 sukura636 wrote:
So, out of curiosity, what are the sales figures for the kit that hasn't been sold yet? I'm dying to know.

That's a fair point; at first I was dead certain Mantic's Deadzone Marauders wouldn't do well, and I was dead wrong.

Does anyone have a link to the spreadsheet someone made to track which minis were included in what add on? I may have posted this before, but I can't see it anywhere.

Kind of a long shot here but does anyone know of a site in the UK that sells individual Battlezones sprues? I need a Fortification sprue A (or more specifically, the large gate and gate post) before Tuesday night since I managed to miscount the number I already have.

eBay used to be awash with single sprues but these days, not so much. I guess I could ask Mantic themselves but I'd be lucky if someone actually replied to my mail before August..

Ugh.. just got my robot team in from DBX.. they pulled the same crap they did in the DZ KS. A small bag with parts for all the robots all in one bag, off the sprue. It's gotta be 100 little parts with no way of knowing what goes where or what these things are supposed to be. It appears to be restic, and there's freaking air bubbles and badly clipped sprue sections, resulting in warping all over the place. I'm moderately pissed at Mantic right now.

Pg 33 - 35 of the players handbook shows all the parts of Mechanites if that's any help

http://manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/DBX-Player-Manual.pdf

Thanks DaveC, I'll have to make sure and log on with my tablet later and download that. This is annoying.. I don't know why I expected anything different outta Mantic.

 MLaw wrote:
Thanks DaveC, I'll have to make sure and log on with my tablet later and download that. This is annoying.. I don't know why I expected anything different outta Mantic.

The robots were advertized from day 1 as build-your-own kits for advanced modelers, so I don't know what you expected.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Thanks DaveC, I'll have to make sure and log on with my tablet later and download that. This is annoying.. I don't know why I expected anything different outta Mantic.

The robots were advertized from day 1 as build-your-own kits for advanced modelers, so I don't know what you expected.

Ah, well.. I originally just went in for the sci-fi civillian types and added them in during pledge manager. However.. dismissing me because I didn't know that doesn't change the fact that
a)they were crappily removed from the sprue creating major problems with the components
b)they were all thrown into the same baggy haphazardly, meaning I have to sort through and dig out all of the arms, legs, heads, etc
c)they are in restic and have quality control issues which have been present before.

All your comment says is that yes.. they were in fact going to be a multi-part kit.. which ... surprise.. most of the models I build are. What most of the models I build are not, is lacking in quality and slapped haphazardly into a bag after being damaged by the people removing them from the sprues. Anything else you want to point out?