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Hello Luke, I asked this some pages ago and you probably read over it.
Could you perhaps help us with the exact wording of the Relic-section?
It is probably on their own page before they are explained.

RAW it is quite important but nobody made pictures of that.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

http://twin-linked-awesome.blogspot.de/2010/02/warrior-to-immortalflayed-ones.html

Pretty good in-depth tutorial.

changemod wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:

toonkirby wrote:
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

Chessex will make custom dice for you. 36 of the larger 16mm dice with a custom engraving on one side would cost around $30 before shipping. That's probably cheaper than what GW would charge.

I was so pumped about the Necron release I was willing to pay the ridiculous prices GW asks for their custom dice.

Checked on Chessex

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Custom_Dice_Home.htm

Pricing:

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes

• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.

Anyone have a decent Necron line art image that would look great on a 16mm die ?

Why not just the Ankh of the Triarch?

I had some custom Chaos dice made a few years ago, and some Tyranid ones for my son, but I heard that a cease and desist was sent to Chessex, and that custom dice using GW IP wasn't possible anymore. Is that true?

 undertow wrote:

changemod wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:

toonkirby wrote:
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

Chessex will make custom dice for you. 36 of the larger 16mm dice with a custom engraving on one side would cost around $30 before shipping. That's probably cheaper than what GW would charge.

I was so pumped about the Necron release I was willing to pay the ridiculous prices GW asks for their custom dice.

Checked on Chessex

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Custom_Dice_Home.htm

Pricing:

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes

• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.

Anyone have a decent Necron line art image that would look great on a 16mm die ?

Why not just the Ankh of the Triarch?

I had some custom Chaos dice made a few years ago, and some Tyranid ones for my son, but I heard that a cease and desist was sent to Chessex, and that custom dice using GW IP wasn't possible anymore. Is that true?

I once burnt a piece of toast that looked like Fateweaver and got a cease and desist, so probably

 Sigvatr wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

http://twin-linked-awesome.blogspot.de/2010/02/warrior-to-immortalflayed-ones.html

Pretty good in-depth tutorial.

Here's a good video that was posted earlier in this thread, using things like Voidblades/bayonets/Sword bits instead of claws. I like how this one turns out (watch the linked painting tutorial too), so I might try this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lsjuCIQNo

If chessex (or similar) KNOW that an image is from GW they won't make it

If they don't know where it's from (so don't tell them to make me some Necron dice, just give them an image file you;ve made up yourself) they may make it,

especially if it's only a small order (order several 1000 and you may well find they'll do more checking)

 Red Corsair wrote:

I once burnt a piece of toast that looked like Fateweaver and got a cease and desist, so probably

So full of win.

I emailed Chessex this morning, so I will let you all know how it turns out.

Requizen wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

http://twin-linked-awesome.blogspot.de/2010/02/warrior-to-immortalflayed-ones.html

Pretty good in-depth tutorial.

Here's a good video that was posted earlier in this thread, using things like Voidblades/bayonets/Sword bits instead of claws. I like how this one turns out (watch the linked painting tutorial too), so I might try this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lsjuCIQNo

Already working on this one: I managed to get eight together so far just from spare parts, so a warrior box will finish off the unit.

What I'm loving about this project is the individuality I can give them in terms of pose and equipment. I've even got a flayed overlord and his loyal bodyguard following him even in the throes of madness done.

changemod wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

http://twin-linked-awesome.blogspot.de/2010/02/warrior-to-immortalflayed-ones.html

Pretty good in-depth tutorial.

Here's a good video that was posted earlier in this thread, using things like Voidblades/bayonets/Sword bits instead of claws. I like how this one turns out (watch the linked painting tutorial too), so I might try this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lsjuCIQNo

Already working on this one: I managed to get eight together so far just from spare parts, so a warrior box will finish off the unit.

What I'm loving about this project is the individuality I can give them in terms of pose and equipment. I've even got a flayed overlord and his loyal bodyguard following him even in the throes of madness done.

If I didn't have like 6 Lords/Overlords already, I'd probably do the same. I guess I could always take one of the ones that's unpainted/unfinished and slice him up a bit, throw on some greenstuff, etc. I've never taken an existing model and chopped it apart for parts though.

Requizen wrote:

changemod wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

http://twin-linked-awesome.blogspot.de/2010/02/warrior-to-immortalflayed-ones.html

Pretty good in-depth tutorial.

Here's a good video that was posted earlier in this thread, using things like Voidblades/bayonets/Sword bits instead of claws. I like how this one turns out (watch the linked painting tutorial too), so I might try this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lsjuCIQNo

Already working on this one: I managed to get eight together so far just from spare parts, so a warrior box will finish off the unit.

What I'm loving about this project is the individuality I can give them in terms of pose and equipment. I've even got a flayed overlord and his loyal bodyguard following him even in the throes of madness done.

If I didn't have like 6 Lords/Overlords already, I'd probably do the same. I guess I could always take one of the ones that's unpainted/unfinished and slice him up a bit, throw on some greenstuff, etc. I've never taken an existing model and chopped it apart for parts though.

That's exactly what I did, actually. I'm getting the new Overlord, so I took one of my unpainted generic ones from a Barge kit, tore off his orb arm and replaced it with a whip coil, repositioned his body to lean further forwards, snapped his Warscythe and deliberately repaired it badly, then hacked up his cape to look frayed and finished off by distressing the model with a knife like the Youtube tutorial said to.

For anyone with the book, can I get some confirmation on the destroyer cult and if they must bring a minimum of 3 units of 3 destroyers? I had wanted to bring 3 individual units of upgraded heavy destroyers to meet the minimum requirements but some posts have said you need a minium of 9 regular destroyers first. Thanks!

 buddha wrote:
For anyone with the book, can I get some confirmation on the destroyer cult and if they must bring a minimum of 3 units of 3 destroyers? I had wanted to bring 3 individual units of upgraded heavy destroyers to meet the minimum requirements but some posts have said you need a minium of 9 regular destroyers first. Thanks!

Looking back, I think that each destroyer unit is 1 destroyer minimum. That destroyer could be upgraded to a heavy destroyer (only 1 heavy destroyer per destroyer unit). Heavy Destroyers can obviously have more destroyers. So a destroyer cult formation could look like this:

Destroyer Lord
2x Destroyer and 1x Heavy Destroyer
2x Destroyer and 1x Heavy Destroyer
2x Destroyer and 1x Heavy Destroyer
3x Heavy Destroyer

That's a 13 Bodies for something like 400 points for the Formation.

Did anyone else notice that the Destroyer Lord was WS/BS 4/4, when the Overlords are 5/5?

Edited to be correct with the rules in the book.

 Anpu-adom wrote:

 buddha wrote:
For anyone with the book, can I get some confirmation on the destroyer cult and if they must bring a minimum of 3 units of 3 destroyers? I had wanted to bring 3 individual units of upgraded heavy destroyers to meet the minimum requirements but some posts have said you need a minium of 9 regular destroyers first. Thanks!

Looking back, I think that each destroyer unit is 1 destroyer minimum. That destroyer could be upgraded to a heavy destroyer (only 1 heavy destroyer per destroyer unit). Heavy Destroyers can obviously have more destroyers. So a destroyer cult formation could look like this:

Destroyer Lord
Heavy Destroyer
Heavy Destroyer
Heavy Destroyer
3x Heavy Destroyer

Did anyone else notice that the Destroyer Lord was WS/BS 4/4, when the Overlords are 5/5?

Yeah, we noticed. I think they didn't want WS/BS5 mixed with preferred enemy.

 Nilok wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
Would a Destroyer Lord joined to a unit of Wraiths even be able to do a Trust Move? After all, the Trust Move are talking about Jet Pack units, not models, and as he is joined to the Wraiths, is it not a Beasts unit?

It's questions like these that makes me want GW to actually read the FAQs we send them.

well, it wasnt simple but it went as good as possible.

huge game Orks Vs Tau.

my big mek with SAG targets the riptide who was being chicken-$h!t jumping back and forth behind cover.

Rolled a double SIX, then proceeded to roll a direct hit.

Rip tide got sucked into the warp...


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Pricing:

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes

• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum

Whoa? $1 per side?

so I i pay for 10 Dice, I'm paying $6 per die and $60 for ten?

My understanding is that it is $1.00 per CUSTOM side. The others would be standard pips. Granted, it's not clear on the website.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
NOTE: I just had a double post... possible side effect of this thread going past 100 pages, or some other shenanigans. I didn't comment on it and it was fixed in less than 30 seconds.

It's just a display bug that happens sometimes when you post. There's no actual double post, and if you edit or delete it, you are just editing the single post you made. Just refresh the page and it's gone.

 buddha wrote:
For anyone with the book, can I get some confirmation on the destroyer cult and if they must bring a minimum of 3 units of 3 destroyers? I had wanted to bring 3 individual units of upgraded heavy destroyers to meet the minimum requirements but some posts have said you need a minium of 9 regular destroyers first. Thanks!

I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

How about Spyders in the Canoptek Harvest. How many can you take?

Exactly one.

Disappointing, but cheap. Thanks!

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Disappointing, but cheap. Thanks!

Spyders from a normal CAD can still be used to feed the Canoptek Formation scarabs.

Yeah, it says "Spyder" for whatever reason.

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

Why is that worse? I can think of no situations that you would want to run solo Destroyers in the formation unless you wanted to run it just for the Heavies.

Requizen wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

Why is that worse? I can think of no situations that you would want to run solo Destroyers in the formation unless you wanted to run it just for the Heavies.

Bingo.

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

That's how formations work. You get the bonuses if you buy the package. Keep in mind you always have normal CAD.

Requizen wrote:
Yeah, it says "Spyder" for whatever reason.

That's what I'm curious about. The actual "Formation Restrictions" box.

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

Why is that worse? I can think of no situations that you would want to run solo Destroyers in the formation unless you wanted to run it just for the Heavies.

Bingo.

Well even then I don't find that too surprising. Formations are supposed to make you take some, as I like to call it, "fluff tax" to gain the benefit. Out of those 3 3-Destroyer units, you can turn 1 each into a Heavy. So you pay for 6 "extra" Destroyers, which I think is totally fine since in this situation they can just tank for the Heavy.

Everyone needs to understand: the Decurion is not made to find one power unit and spam it. It's designed to force you to make fluffy armies and giving you benefits if you stick to that design.


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changemod wrote:

Requizen wrote:
Yeah, it says "Spyder" for whatever reason.

That's what I'm curious about. The actual "Formation Restrictions" box.

I'm looking at it now, it says:

1 Canoptek Spyder
1 unit of Canoptek Wraiths
1 unit of Canoptek Scarabs

Makes it very clear that it's only a single Spyder.

Requizen wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

Why is that worse? I can think of no situations that you would want to run solo Destroyers in the formation unless you wanted to run it just for the Heavies.

Or you wanted it relatively cheap. Say you have a five Destroyer unit from last edition that's been gathering dust a long time, and now that they're pretty good you'd like to run 3-1-1 along with three heavies and a Destroyer Lord, which is your entire Destroyer collection.

But nope! GW says you need to shell out for four more.


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Requizen wrote:

I'm looking at it now, it says:

1 Canoptek Spyder
1 unit of Canoptek Wraiths
1 unit of Canoptek Scarabs

Makes it very clear that it's only a single Spyder.

I know, however my actual question is what does the "Formation Restrictions" box say. Should be on the formation datasheet towards the bottom of the sidebar if the format is standard.

changemod wrote:

Requizen wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:

Requizen wrote:


I have mine now, feel free to ask things!

Destroyers are min 1 per squad, but the Destroyer Cult specifically says that each Destroyer unit must have 3 Destroyers.

Decurion keeps getting worse and worse and worse...

Why is that worse? I can think of no situations that you would want to run solo Destroyers in the formation unless you wanted to run it just for the Heavies.

Or you wanted it relatively cheap. Say you have a five Destroyer unit from last edition that's been gathering dust a long time, and now that they're pretty good you'd like to run 3-1-1 along with three heavies and a Destroyer Lord, which is your entire Destroyer collection.

But nope! GW says you need to shell out for four more.


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Requizen wrote:

I'm looking at it now, it says:

1 Canoptek Spyder
1 unit of Canoptek Wraiths
1 unit of Canoptek Scarabs

Makes it very clear that it's only a single Spyder.

I know, however my actual question is what does the "Formation Restrictions" box say. Should be on the formation datasheet towards the bottom of the sidebar if the format is standard.

Here's the actual box:

-----------------------------------------
Formation:
1 Canoptek Spyder
1 unit of Canoptek Wraiths
1 unit of Canoptek Scarabs
----------------------------------------
Restrictions:
None.
----------------------------------------

Since it says "Unit of" for the other two, I don't think there's any argument for taking more than 1 Spyder.