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Was thinking about starting a warhammer fantasy but dont know which one i like Lizardmen and Tomb kings but i dont know how good they are. I want a army good at range mostly and numbers.

I wouldn't focus on what army is good so much as which one you like best. You're going to be spending a lot of time painting them so the models better be to your liking or you'll be miserable. However, to answer you're question as best I can, from what I hear the TK are known for dumping a crap ton of shots on units, and the Lizardmen are known for the skinks, which use poison weapons. Number wise...they might be near the same.

what other armys do you sujest

Empire, Dwarfs and Skaven are all quite good at shooting.

black templar wrote:what other armys do you sujest

Well, that depends on what kind of armies you like to run or want to run. I imagine you came from 40k, so what army did you play in that system?

Personally, I run ogres because I love the fluff and character of the army. Some people are turned off because they don't like having units that appear to be fat. I on the other hand, think the idea of a towering wall of muscle, hunger, fat and two ironclad fists is awesome.

Just get the army that looks coolest to you.

Be aware, shooting does not play as large of a role in the game like in 40K. Magic and CC seem to have a larger impact on game outcomes. Necro is right about making sure you like the army first.

mcyeatman wrote:Be aware, shooting does not play as large of a role in the game like in 40K. Magic and CC seem to have a larger impact on game outcomes. Necro is right about making sure you like the army first.

I know that range to weaken them then CC.

Lizardmen are the awesome-est!

Im going to start lizardmen.

Damn was too late...

Was going to say I started TK and they are an excellent army for shooting...


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mcyeatman wrote:Be aware, shooting does not play as large of a role in the game like in 40K. Magic and CC seem to have a larger impact on game outcomes. Necro is right about making sure you like the army first.

It dose when you have a bucket load of dice...

Just my two cents...

Lizard men shooting go with a bunch of chameleon skink and salamanders since who didn't love those flame templates.

cowpow16 wrote:Lizard men shooting go with a bunch of chameleon skink and salamanders since who didn't love those flame templates.

Since who didn't like caskets...

TK
say you have 50 Skeleton archers, in ranks of ten (35 shots hit on 5+)
Put Khalida in there (35 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
cast Incantation of Righteous smiting (70 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
and they never use any modifiers, positive or negative, allowing you to move around the board and always hit on the same score, at any target in your 30" range

just go with what you like the looks of and what suits your playing style.....im a "in your face player" so love WoC but i also love the comedy sneaky playing style so i use gobbos aswell.


its all down to what suits you.

DukeBadham wrote:TK
say you have 50 Skeleton archers, in ranks of ten (35 shots hit on 5+)
Put Khalida in there (35 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
cast Incantation of Righteous smiting (70 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
and they never use any modifiers, positive or negative, allowing you to move around the board and always hit on the same score, at any target in your 30" range

Wow I have changed my mind TK are my army now.

Sorry if this confuses your decision, but I believe Dark Elves are known for having the most impressive rate of fire among their rank and file.

black templar wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:TK
say you have 50 Skeleton archers, in ranks of ten (35 shots hit on 5+)
Put Khalida in there (35 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
cast Incantation of Righteous smiting (70 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
and they never use any modifiers, positive or negative, allowing you to move around the board and always hit on the same score, at any target in your 30" range

Wow I have changed my mind TK are my army now.

Throw in a casket and that's a good baisis to start around.

Dark Elves have RoF, but we miss a lot. You know, unless you have a metal sorce with enchanted blades and guiding eye...preferably with a fire sorce and flaming sword. Essentially BS 2, rerollable with a +1 to wound flaming armor piercing attacks. Its only one round mind you, but 40 of those does hurt people.

happygolucky wrote:

black templar wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:TK
say you have 50 Skeleton archers, in ranks of ten (35 shots hit on 5+)
Put Khalida in there (35 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
cast Incantation of Righteous smiting (70 poisoned shots, hit on 4+)
and they never use any modifiers, positive or negative, allowing you to move around the board and always hit on the same score, at any target in your 30" range

Wow I have changed my mind TK are my army now.

Throw in a casket and that's a good baisis to start around.

But Khalida is more expensive then 50 archers with FC by 35 points, but, add incantation of cursed blades in there and the 70 poisoned shots now have killing blow, and throw a good hex into the mix and even telics has to worry