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You have your Dragon armor? I don't like you! No, but seriously. I'm quite jealous, but I'm also excited for you. That's one of the reasons I'm so excited for the expansions, is all the new armor sets. I could gush about how much I love the weapon/armor design and the overall quality of art in this here game, but, there is too much else to talk about.

I've gotten Alistair, Zachary, Erza, Lucy, Adam, Anna, Aya, and Paul all built, along with the two surprise characters (we need names for them, Adam!) along with all of the base monsters assembled besides the Watcher and part of the Phoenix. Other than the Hand and the Lion, I haven't noticed bad gaps or join lines, and the join lines that I have found are pretty equivalent to what I've seen in my GW models (though the last time I bought something from GW was the Dark Elf release), I'm not loving the join lines, but, we can use this knowledge to help make future KD product even more incredible.

These are far and away my favorite models I've ever gotten, and I still need to finish assembling my Phoenix Dancer, Silk Assassin, Allison, and Messenger of Courage. My poor wife has to wait until wave 3 to get her muchly-anticipated Regeneration Suit.

Today is the day that I'm going to (attempt) to dive in on magnetizing the armor kits, and thus far, my only experience in magnetization is with a couple of Cygnar Warjacks, so... Wish me luck? God knows my survivor has enough insanity that she'd want to to not give up on it, but we'll see. I think I have the smallest magnets you can buy from... Wherever it was that I ordered. I'm anticipating hearing how it's working for others, too. I think I'll start with just the Lion set, not dive too deep or anything.

As far as the game itself goes, this is easily my favorite table-top/board game I have ever played, and that's not hyperbole. I adore D&D as well as Zombicide, Super Dungeon, but nothing quite does it for me like this game does. I've spent so much time thinking about what I want to do in game when I'm not actually playing it, as has my wife. Worth. The. Wait.

I just want to talk about my experiences in game, then I'll end this big old novel I'm writing here. My group just made it past the Butcher, we're playing a quasi-easy mode (we have seven players, didn't buff the monsters, give out more resources, started with a stat) just because we want to experience the game before we do it the true way. We've had only one death, thus far, and it wasn't a combat one. My cousin thought it was a good idea to throw seven dice at the event where a giant stone maw opens near the settlement. Yeah. Butcher almost killed two of us, Antelope kicked one of our survivors so hard that their intestines prolapsed, and a Lion gave our archer a permanent gaping chest wound. I love this game. My wife is rolling a katar wielding crit-maniac, whereas I have a badass axe lady who puts some serious hurt on the monsters. We have another person working up to katars, the aforementioned archer, someone attempting to be an evasion tank (with the intestinal wound), an all-arounder, and one who throws darts when they're not trying to collect things that are on the battlefield. The reception from my gaming group has been overwhelmingly positive. And I think I'm going to go for a dagger user when we do a different settlement.

Because this is a KD thread, I have to end this on a weird note. Did anyone else chop the Lion's balls off? In game, or the actual model.

The Prologue Sprue is definitely the worst of the bunch fit wise, which is a shame because you'll spend your time on the rest of the sprues wondering if they have the same issues. The Antelope has a couple wonky bits (one of the ears and assembly on the stand) and the lack of definitive assembly instructions on the Phoenix wings is frustrating, but those were the only things that are still stuck in my head after building all the OOTB minis. Everything else is fairly easy to puzzle out from images online (especially the Watcher). Butcher (his cape is supposed to be canted which explains the weird back peg), King's Hand, Watcher and King's Man all went together without a hitch, problem or gaps. Intimacy figures were not too bad either once you find the right fit on the females hair.

I would rate the Prologue Sprue a solid B and the others an A-.

I'm glad I enjoy the modeling side of the hobby so much, because I can't imagine the frustration those less so inclined are having.


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 The Fragile Breath wrote:


As far as the game itself goes, this is easily my favorite table-top/board game I have ever played, and that's not hyperbole. I adore D&D as well as Zombicide, Super Dungeon, but nothing quite does it for me like this game does. I've spent so much time thinking about what I want to do in game when I'm not actually playing it, as has my wife. Worth. The. Wait.

This was my experience as well. I'm taking a break from games for a little bit because I'm finding absolutely no interest in any other game right now.

FYI, work your archer up to Master and put him in some screaming antelope armor...you won't regret it.

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
I'm not loving the join lines, but, we can use this knowledge to help make future KD product even more incredible.

The quality waves about a bit, I am finding the pin-ups and other promos to be of a better quality.



This version of the Twilight Knight in particular is gorgeous. I'm not much of a painter myself, but I like how it turned out.

I like. I haven't assembled her yet.

Did you paint her with the head and cloak attached?

I painted her wholly assembled. I'm painting up the Messenger of Humanity (GUTS!) next, but he'll be done in separate stages (base, body, head, cloak) before being stuck together.

Some minis can be painted well enough completely assembled, others not so much.

Just got my small rewards.

I am not ready.

The Messengers are superb. And I wish I'd ordered more Lantern Festival girls, they came out splendidly. There's just too much good stuff.

Got gummy bears, too! I am one of the lucky ones!

I had a pack of Gummy Bears as well. I'm trying to figure out the significance. Was there a comment on the KS page or something that prompted it?

It's a sweet gesture, something that other companies (Hasslefree, Heresy Miniatures) also do.

Ah, thanks. Cute. Had gone completely over my head.

By the way, can't remember, but was Candy supposed to come with Cola or is she by herself as Candy Cola?

Cola is also on the sprue but is tiny by comparison to Candy

Thanks. Thought that was one of her adornments.

To Brook and Cincy, in hindsight I think I was a bit hasty in my comments yesterday and I would like to apologise to both of you, I now see the spirit in which your comments were posted.
I think I have become a bit jaded from all the negativity on a lot of the KS's I have participated in.

So I went through my Wave 1 Add-Ons just now and I'm missing a few models. Which is the email address I need to send my issues to?

Also, for anyone who ordered the Green Knight Armor, was that Add-On included in your shipment?

We are botching alot of stuff in our first play through, I dont know if im just not reading things thoroughly enough or its just not very clear.

Things like the Antelope, its HL reactions where it Knockbacks everyone 7 squares and then performs basic action. Does this mean it gets to move again and attack? The Butcher had alot of weird attacks like that as well. I also had to dig to figure out what the traits where, so our first fight with the butcher he didnt have any trait cards out.

Item cards and the text that you dont know what it means.. example was the butchers cleaver, it says Sentient. I looked that up in the Glossary and it just says a special trait.. no gak. The card says Sentient is active when the player is insane. SO WHAT ACTIVATES? We just took it as the player couldnt use the weapon unless they were insane.

Alot of this stuff comes up like that and its annoying considering how long the game takes anyways. Im also probably going to end up cutting up my book because there is to much damn page flipping.

That's exactly what Sentient means; you must be insane in order to use the Cleaver, which is a pretty sweet weapon to have, especially if you pull a second one.

Don't try to interpret anything, but follow the text exactly, so if a hit location Failure or Reflex (and you fail or don't roll a crit) says something like knockback 7 and basic action, then move everyone the 7 spaces, pick target per the basic action, move the requisite spaces and perform the attack, then continue the flow of the activation cycle.

It's really quite elegant how everything flows once you get used to the card structure.

Chopxsticks wrote:

Item cards and the text that you dont know what it means.. example was the butchers cleaver, it says Sentient. I looked that up in the Glossary and it just says a special trait.. no gak. The card says Sentient is active when the player is insane. SO WHAT ACTIVATES? We just took it as the player couldnt use the weapon unless they were insane.

You "activate" a weapon when you make an attack. So yeah, You can only activate the Butcher's Cleaver when the survivor is insane- you got it right

As far as HL reactions on the Antelope... I think thats right. Like the Butcher I know had a couple that did that- where he attacked as a reaction. I need to read a bit more on the Antelope, though. Havent faced it myself!

I think the quality is astonishing, bar the aforementionned gap in some models. I must say though that the fact that the assembly web page is not up, more than 2 weeks after some received their game, is unnapceptable

Elysium64 wrote:
To Brook and Cincy, in hindsight I think I was a bit hasty in my comments yesterday and I would like to apologise to both of you, I now see the spirit in which your comments were posted.
I think I have become a bit jaded from all the negativity on a lot of the KS's I have participated in.

No sweat dude.

I'm a huge fan of my stuff. I just try and be pragmatic.

I've met Adam. He's a great dude and listens to feedback. I'm sure they'll continue to close in on that perfection with more experience.

 RivenSkull wrote:
I am going to be one of the people magnetizing my survivors.

May god have mercy upon my soul.

I have already started the process and am making good time. Perhaps I can help with saving you some headache out the gate. I am using these magnets

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D101-N52

The magnetic points are

legs + torso
arm (ea) + torso
head + torso
front waist (for extra weapons or accessories eg frenzy potion
upper back (for extra weapons eg arrows, or the lion cape)

You want to be sure the front waist and upper back are facing the same magnetic direction so if you decide to hang a sickle on the waist or the back, it's gonna stick the proper way. If you mess up and flip them, it will still "hold on" but not look as neat.

For the hands/weapons, I'm currently cutting off little pieces of wire from hardware cloth and drilling holes into the hands and arms but I'm not liking the short length of the wire so I need a better alternative. I haven't come up with one yet.

I'll post pictures soon.

If you don't have a set of non-magnetic tweezers yet, I implore you to get some. When you are messing something so small and at times, superglue is to be used, it's really tricky getting the magnet in the right spot, facing the right direction. For the most part, all the magnets fit snugly into the hole I drilled with no need for superglue, but sometimes it is needed.

To ensure they are all facing the right direction, after building the first model, I use it over and over as a guide. For example, after drilling the hole for the torso, I attach the magnet to the legs that already has the magnet mounted. Now two magnets are on it. I just take the torso and smoosh it down on the new magnet until it seats in place. Repeat for all the other areas. Sometimes the arm sockets are too deep for 2 magnets so just stack them up 4 or 5 high. The only one that matters is the last one that gets pushed into place.

 RivenSkull wrote:
So I went through my Wave 1 Add-Ons just now and I'm missing a few models. Which is the email address I need to send my issues to?

Also, for anyone who ordered the Green Knight Armor, was that Add-On included in your shipment?

support ( att) kingdomdeath.zendesk.com

The Green Knight is a 'expansion' item, so is shipping with wave 3 (probably January),

also if you backed for survivor the 'gift' twilight knight is in your survivor rewards box with the main game (if not it should be in with the wave 1 stuff)

Got my Wave 1 shipment yesterday, and yes I do need to order many more armor kits. Particularly the lantern and screaming fur ones I think. Damn you past-me and your frugality! I do like the dragon armor though, so I'm glad I got extras of that.

Getting back to the topic of quality while I am more than happy with what I received, I can certainly see the areas of improvement as regards the seams between parts. That said, they're far from the worst things to have ever been created nor do I feel that they're in any way deficient; I just see where someone expecting "perfection" would be disappointed. The models are very good, but like I said a month or so ago, GW certainly has an edge when it comes to engineering mono-pose models.

Anywho, off to assemble all my various pin-ups and promos and then to set them aside because there's no way I'll be able to give them even a remotely adequate paint job. My painting skills definitely qualify as "deficient" in this equation...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
So I went through my Wave 1 Add-Ons just now and I'm missing a few models. Which is the email address I need to send my issues to?

Also, for anyone who ordered the Green Knight Armor, was that Add-On included in your shipment?

support ( att) kingdomdeath.zendesk.com

The Green Knight is a 'expansion' item, so is shipping with wave 3 (probably January),

also if you backed for survivor the 'gift' twilight knight is in your survivor rewards box with the main game (if not it should be in with the wave 1 stuff)

Unfortunately I didn't get the Survivor package. The pledge I bought was only Game level. But I got a fair amount of pin-ups, on to of the promo models that were a part of the pledge I bought. There were 35 miniatures in the shipment, and they only missed 3, so I'm not that upset.

And good to confirm that the Green Knight Armor is an expansion.

The only other thing was the tshirt. There was one listed in the pledge, but I didn't receive one, so I also asked about that. I don't know if the person I bought the pledge from chose the size or not so I might be out of luck on that.

SpectreHorseman wrote:

For the hands/weapons, I'm currently cutting off little pieces of wire from hardware cloth and drilling holes into the hands and arms but I'm not liking the short length of the wire so I need a better alternative. I haven't come up with one yet.

For my wrist/arm joint I've experimented using a piece from a sewing pin. They have a tiny diameter but are steel so are stronger than brass. They're also super cheap. I've used superglue on the hand/pin connection and am trying out a white glue connection between the wrist/arm so I can swap them out. The test pieces I've done seem to hold well bu I haven't decided if that's the way to go or not.

 RivenSkull wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
So I went through my Wave 1 Add-Ons just now and I'm missing a few models. Which is the email address I need to send my issues to?

Also, for anyone who ordered the Green Knight Armor, was that Add-On included in your shipment?

support ( att) kingdomdeath.zendesk.com

The Green Knight is a 'expansion' item, so is shipping with wave 3 (probably January),

also if you backed for survivor the 'gift' twilight knight is in your survivor rewards box with the main game (if not it should be in with the wave 1 stuff)

Unfortunately I didn't get the Survivor package. The pledge I bought was only Game level. But I got a fair amount of pin-ups, on to of the promo models that were a part of the pledge I bought. There were 35 miniatures in the shipment, and they only missed 3, so I'm not that upset.

And good to confirm that the Green Knight Armor is an expansion.

The only other thing was the tshirt. There was one listed in the pledge, but I didn't receive one, so I also asked about that. I don't know if the person I bought the pledge from chose the size or not so I might be out of luck on that.

I was also missing 3 pin ups so I emailed them and then recived them by air mail a few days later so I was very happy.

SeanDrake wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 RivenSkull wrote:
So I went through my Wave 1 Add-Ons just now and I'm missing a few models. Which is the email address I need to send my issues to?

Also, for anyone who ordered the Green Knight Armor, was that Add-On included in your shipment?

support ( att) kingdomdeath.zendesk.com

The Green Knight is a 'expansion' item, so is shipping with wave 3 (probably January),

also if you backed for survivor the 'gift' twilight knight is in your survivor rewards box with the main game (if not it should be in with the wave 1 stuff)

Unfortunately I didn't get the Survivor package. The pledge I bought was only Game level. But I got a fair amount of pin-ups, on to of the promo models that were a part of the pledge I bought. There were 35 miniatures in the shipment, and they only missed 3, so I'm not that upset.

And good to confirm that the Green Knight Armor is an expansion.

The only other thing was the tshirt. There was one listed in the pledge, but I didn't receive one, so I also asked about that. I don't know if the person I bought the pledge from chose the size or not so I might be out of luck on that.

I was also missing 3 pin ups so I emailed them and then recived them by air mail a few days later so I was very happy.

Did you also get a reply to your email or did they just send a package?

Also curious about that, I've been waiting on my official dice for a while now.

My brother and I played it a bit today, I think we botched it here and there, but we had fun, mission accomplished!

I wonder though, how can we build a Catarium? We got some nice bits of lion, but no way of properly using them.

 BrookM wrote:
My brother and I played it a bit today, I think we botched it here and there, but we had fun, mission accomplished!

I wonder though, how can we build a Catarium? We got some nice bits of lion, but no way of properly using them.

Are you referring to the Develop process on Page 35 of the rulebook? A returning survivor can spend an endeavor to build a settlement location.

If I understood your question correctly anyway.