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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

NOTE 17/05/2020: This thread lay dormant for 4 years while I was busy getting over myself and fending off Real LifeTM. I will now be rebooting my thread, likely intermittently, and the reboot starts on Page 4

I've been a lurker on Dakka for ages - the bulk of my contributions have been on Warseer. I really like the banter and the skills I've seen on Dakka and I wanted to contribute to the forum. Therefore, here is my humble log and I hope you find something you like here. If it helps me to improve my painting and modelling all the better!
Having a thread will also hopefully encourage me to get a bunch of my model mountain finished off - updates will be occasional rather than regular to start with but hopefully I can improve as time goes on

I have been hobbying for a loooong time , maybe 16 years now. My first model was an Airfix Blenheim bomber and I loved every minute of slapping her together! My first memory of Warhammer was at primary school. I remember looking at some hulking warmachines in a strange little magazine called White Dwarf and it spiralled out of control from there These days I am more of a painter and modeller - I haven't played any 40K for years and it seems unlikely that I will do so any time soon. I do like playing Necromunda and games from 2 Hour Wargames though!

If anyone is in Edinburgh and fancies a game please let me know!


My old Imperial Navy task force.


Ork Pirates.


Brazen Guard Space Marines.

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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh




First squad complete! I've used these old fellas as a test bed for multiple ideas. The paint scheme will probably evolve. The freehand symbol is an improvement on the old one but I think it still looks rather crude - should I give them all the red T? I could try the tutorial here (the picture links are busted but you get the idea) - thoughts please?
Note the simplistic bases. Rimmed in black (that really brought the bronze effect out) and flocked with brownish flock. I then added some static grass to break it up a bit.

You might like this. After I added the grass it looked rather flat and depressed. So I held the model upside down and gave it a good shake - now the static grass is much bushier!

I hope you guys like them - please do let me know your thoughts and criticisms as I'll be painting shedloads of these and I want them to be good!

Luv Ragsta

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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

After feedback my interpretation of this project has somewhat evolved.

The armour on the Terminators looked too pale - it was practically silver so I have worked on making these guys look more bronze as they should be. The tones seem much richer, which is good. I like the contrast of the eyes - haven't finished the helmet sensors yet. Note that one Marine has a silver pad - I'll be using him as a squad veteran (back in Rogue Trader SM squads had a sergeant and a combat leader if remember rightlym so the silver pad is my first step in distinguishing him). The bases need static grass spread across them and maybe some red flower type things to continue the theme.

Thanks for looking guys

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Honestly though the paint job is pretty good, I don't like them. The Brazen Minotaurs are a bright, bold bronze color. Your marines are silver, or slightly bronzish silver at best. Perhaps you should consider running Silver Skulls?

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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh


Thanks for the feedback, ph34r, it's appreciated. I agree that the scheme is rather pale - there are several bronze recipes on Dakka so I will try a few alternatives.

Glad the paintjob is alright anyway! I have a thing for White Minotaurs at the moment (not Brazen Minotaurs BTW) - ideally I don't want to move to a different Chapter but I will if that's the group consensus.

Let me post up a full Tactical squad with finsihed basing etc and see what you think then. Should be able to do that by next week - I have a wedding getting in the way before that!

   
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Leuven, Belgium

Welll, no matter the chapter, they look good mate. You could keep 'm silver, or of course experiment with a very thinned dark yellow/light brown glaze. You might get some very cool tints out of them.
but that beign said, they look good as-is, and I love the eyes. ^^

   
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ph34r wrote:Honestly though the paint job is pretty good, I don't like them. The Brazen Minotaurs are a bright, bold bronze color. Your marines are silver, or slightly bronzish silver at best. Perhaps you should consider running Silver Skulls?


I believe you're thinking of "The Minotaurs" from IA 10, which are a bright bronze with red shoulders.

At the end of the day, these are little plastic space men. Call them the care bears if you want, it's completely up to you. Pick a name and a paint scheme you like and run with it.
   
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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

Meph wrote:Welll, no matter the chapter, they look good mate. You could keep 'm silver, or of course experiment with a very thinned dark yellow/light brown glaze. You might get some very cool tints out of them.
but that beign said, they look good as-is, and I love the eyes. ^^


That's very kind of you, Meph, I love your work so that means alot. Your glaze suggestion is a good one - if I did I would want to base it on what you did with your Stromraven pilot. The eyes are insultingly simple - I've moved away from the OSL effect to make things easier for me but still like how they're coming out. I'll stick with my current colour scheme for nnow and see what the feedback is.

SuckMuffin wrote:
ph34r wrote:Honestly though the paint job is pretty good, I don't like them. The Brazen Minotaurs are a bright, bold bronze color. Your marines are silver, or slightly bronzish silver at best. Perhaps you should consider running Silver Skulls?


I believe you're thinking of "The Minotaurs" from IA 10, which are a bright bronze with red shoulders.

At the end of the day, these are little plastic space men. Call them the care bears if you want, it's completely up to you. Pick a name and a paint scheme you like and run with it.


Suckmuffin, thanks to you I've started tellling people I play with little plastic space men!! Unfortunately, I haven't read IA10 - I've been dabbling with Chapters that include 'Minotaur' in the name for 2 years so needless to say I was a bit annoyed when GW upgraded the fluff to include them! My Chapter are going to be White Minotaurs - there are pictures of them in Lexicanicum and GW Codex but no fluff as far as I know. That leaves me plenty of room for some fluff of my own.



Chapter armour is a well polished bronze dependent on combat exposure and the whims of the warrior who tends to the suit. Their shoulder paudrons are red to symbolise the blood of martyrs that the Imperium is founded upon. The colour of the suit itself is linked with the Emperor's Golden Throne - a crude form of hero worship through idolisation. That the Chapter worship the Emperor foremost rather than a primarch is interesting - it sets them apart from the majority of Adeptus Astartes Chapters. Crusader is decorated with personal slogans or quotes from Imperial dogma that the marines etch into their armour themselves. This practise is encouraged by the Chaplains as part of tending to the Marines' spiritual wellbeing.

I'm making slow but steady progress on these guys - I'm quite pleased with how the freehand on their shoulder pads has come out. Still need to do their purity seals and add some equipment - the fact that these guys were eBay rescues means some of the armour is damaged or poorly assembled and I intend to disguise that with some well places scrolls/ seals. They aren't game legal yet - I need to add Sergeants, heavy weapons and add some more Tacticals so I can field 2 full squads. The bases need static grass added too but I will hold off until I have more of them to do.

Hope you guys like them - critique is encouraged!

Cheers, chaps

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I think they look good. Maybe try some washes to make them more bronze, like gryphonne sepia should work alright. Or if you decide to do your own thing, maybe mix some baal red in to tie in with the red shoulders. Copper + red.
   
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Leuven, Belgium

Well, the more I look at the pale tint of metallic you've got, the more I'm liking it. It' something you don't see that often and it's a very nice tone.
Perhaps if you'd colour some detail a bit darker, it would stand out even more. I'm thinking of maybe just the little tech bits on the front of the backpacks, and the 'rubber' groin, knee and armpit bits, as well the cabling on the chest (but just the cables, not the 'sockets').

On my blood angels I just paint 'm in Vallejo's 'Dark Rubber', which is basically a dark grey, with a very slight blueish tint, and give them a black wash. It's easy and quick but does tend to tie the models together and bring out the armour pieces.

   
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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

Almarine wrote:I think they look good. Maybe try some washes to make them more bronze, like gryphonne sepia should work alright. Or if you decide to do your own thing, maybe mix some baal red in to tie in with the red shoulders. Copper + red.


Thank you for the kind words, Almarine. The armour has two coats of Gryphonne Sepia over a base of Boltgun Metal. It then gets a coat of Devlan Mud for shading and Boltgun highlights followed by Chainmail if I want to make something really pop. I'm really interested in your suggestion of Baal Red but I'm reluctant to change the scheme now as I'm on a roll now!

Meph wrote:Well, the more I look at the pale tint of metallic you've got, the more I'm liking it. It' something you don't see that often and it's a very nice tone.
Perhaps if you'd colour some detail a bit darker, it would stand out even more. I'm thinking of maybe just the little tech bits on the front of the backpacks, and the 'rubber' groin, knee and armpit bits, as well the cabling on the chest (but just the cables, not the 'sockets').

On my blood angels I just paint 'm in Vallejo's 'Dark Rubber', which is basically a dark grey, with a very slight blueish tint, and give them a black wash. It's easy and quick but does tend to tie the models together and bring out the armour pieces.


Thank you very much for that suggestion, Meph - I'm going to do just that. I will add Adeptus Battlegrey to the areas you suggest (with a little highlighting) then some Badab Black. I'm going to wait until I have some more squads before I take this step though - that will make it more time effective.

Cheers fellas

Ragsta

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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

It's been a while I've been working on Battlefleet Gothic fleets and tinkering with a Leman Russ scratchbuild, so I haven't been totally lazy but still...

I have been working away at my Marines - what I like about this project is going back to models I previously painted for the force and adding further bits and bobs to them as I flesh out the fluff. For example, initially only 70% of the Marines had freehand script on their pads but now I'm embracing the zealotry of these guys... So had to go back and give them all freehand

Anyway, nothing left on the latest ones except some bolters and their purity seals but I'm leaving that for another day - they need plenty of those and my hands are rather shaky after last night's pub adventure Oh, and I still need to paint in the 'circuit boxes' as suggested by Meph.


This Chapter maintains their forebearers' reputation for crusading zeal. Fanatical in their devotion to the Emperor, they honour the concept of supreme sacrifice in the Emperor's name and revel in the effect that their idealism has upon heretics and aliens.

Armour is a bright bronze or duller golden hue in acknowledgement of the Golden Throne - the red pauldrons of their armour represent the blood of martyrs that the Imperium is founded upon. As previously described the pads are decorated with personal slogans or sections of Imperial dogma. The Marines are encouraged by their Chaplains to decorate their suits with these inscriptions as part of the bonding between Marine and armour.

Distinctive features of ideology are an emphasis on attaining physical and mental perfection. Marines will spend hours perfecting different forms of armed combat or occupied with deep meditation and prayer. Their belief in the purity of human form has meant strained relations with the Mechanicus and those Chapters descended from the Iron Hands. Faith in technology and bionics does not sit well with these Marines.

Similarly, the Chapter has no psykers in its ranks – the Chapter maintain that they are loyal to the Imperial creed by magnitudes above those that employ such mutants. The strength of devotion means Chaplains are highly regarded by their congregations and there are frequently at least two within each Company. They are depended upon when a new Chapter Master is chosen - all Chaplains will convene and determine the new leader by virtue of strength and battle honours.

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The Beach

Jihad_Ragsta wrote:Unfortunately, I haven't read IA10 - I've been dabbling with Chapters that include 'Minotaur' in the name for 2 years so needless to say I was a bit annoyed when GW upgraded the fluff to include them!
As far as I know, the Minotaurs were mentioned as far back as 1989. I remember them being mentioned and pictured in the original depiction of the Badab War from the Warhammer Compendium.

But your Marines still look good, and there's no problem with calling them Brazen Minotaurs. "Crusaders" isn't really any more original, and there are how many chapters named "Angels", "Dragons", "Hawks", "Storm", "Swords" etc. In fact, looking it up, it appears the Crusaders were mentioned in Chapter Approved 2001. But they don't seem to have a color scheme, so you're all set.

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They look good. I've always been a fan of metallic marines and these have been done to a high standard.

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Very nice painting - I don't know how you do it, but that slightly matt effect on them looks great.

   
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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh

Veteran Sergeant wrote:As far as I know, the Minotaurs were mentioned as far back as 1989. I remember them being mentioned and pictured in the original depiction of the Badab War from the Warhammer Compendium.

But your Marines still look good, and there's no problem with calling them Brazen Minotaurs. "Crusaders" isn't really any more original, and there are how many chapters named "Angels", "Dragons", "Hawks", "Storm", "Swords" etc. In fact, looking it up, it appears the Crusaders were mentioned in Chapter Approved 2001. But they don't seem to have a color scheme, so you're all set.


Thanks for the info, that's good to know. I'm quite happy with the somewhat generic name of 'Crusaders' now, plus it's helped give me some idea of what to go for model wise e.g. sections of dogma, small totems and icons on the backpacks to emphasise the idea of crusading warriors.

Llamahead wrote:They look good. I've always been a fan of metallic marines and these have been done to a high standard.


Thanks, mate, very kind of you to say. I am pleased at the standard they're at - from two feet away they look very respectable!

SilverMK2 wrote:Very nice painting - I don't know how you do it, but that slightly matt effect on them looks great.


When are we seeing more of your truescales, my friend? Thank you for the kind words on the painting! I'm not sure what effect you're seeing here - the basic paint job is several washes over boltgun metal. I have actually been wondering whether to apply matt varbnish to dull them down OR gloss varnish to make the metallics 'shine.' I take it you support the matt look?

Thanks for the comments, guys - I have 3 sergeants and a Chaplain coming up next. Not too happy at the prospect of painting black armour though

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Jihad_Ragsta wrote:When are we seeing more of your truescales, my friend?


I may well be doing some more work on them next week as I am off from work

Thank you for the kind words on the painting! I'm not sure what effect you're seeing here - the basic paint job is sevearl washes over boltgun metal. I have actually been wondering whether to apply matt varbnish to dull them down OR gloss varnish to make the metallics 'shine.' I take it you support the matt look?


Yeah, I love the look of the bronzes - the "matt" metallic effect looks awesome - I especially like the difference between the eagle emblem and the rest of the armour - I assume you just did less washes on it to give it a more silvery appearance?

   
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Cool! I'll be following closely!

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Looking good, really like the script work. You should post some of your BFG minis imo.

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Fighter Ace





Edinburgh


Silver - The basic paint job for these Marines is a basecoat of Boltgun Metal, then two washes of Sepia followed by a shading wash of Devlan. The chest eagles I then pick out with a watered down highlight of Boltgun, which I also run over the helmet features and anything else that juts out like shoulder pad edges and backpacks.

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They really look much better now than in your first post. The grey guns are especially interesting, it's too bad I can't do that myself, my guys are grey already.

By the way I agree that Crusaders isn't very original. How about Red Skulls lol.
   
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Cool. I like the piety fluff. Possibly think about using Templars as a basis for your lists? plus they going to be getting an update soon. keep it up!


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Edinburgh

Almarine wrote:They really look much better now than in your first post. The grey guns are especially interesting, it's too bad I can't do that myself, my guys are grey already.

By the way I agree that Crusaders isn't very original. How about Red Skulls lol.


Hey fella, I am very pleased you have seen an improvement. I too am much happier with the updated paint scheme. The grey guns are very simple actually:

Black base, then Adeptus Battlegrey all over it.
Drybrush Codex Grey all over then a wash of Badab Black.
Watered down Codex Grey applied to the upper edges for some definition.

It's simple yet effective, I'm wondering how it would look on a larger scale... Do you have any pictures of your Marines?

As for Red Skulls - you've been watching too much Captain America Besides, if I call these guys that it would offend my Inferno Skulls. Old pics incoming!!



genom.cor wrote:Cool. I like the piety fluff. Possibly think about using Templars as a basis for your lists? plus they going to be getting an update soon. keep it up!



I haven't played for about a decade now, so haven't put a lot of thought into lists... I want the Chapter to favour Codex tactics over charging straight into assault but I definitely want to retain a Templar vibe to them. I was thinking adding personal icons to a few of each squad plus a banner per unit too. For the actual list it's probably standard Codex for now

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Loving the uniformality of all the 'crusaders'
shoulder pads are neat

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Edinburgh

Thanks for the comments, guys, I really do appreciate them.

My apologies for such a long silence - I am having problems getting myself motivated to paint recently What with work and trying to get some exercise (!) I don't have a great deal of time to hobby at the moment. Plus the fact that the room I live in is rather rubbish and dust gets everywhere.

Anyway I am back and have decided to make this a rather more general log for all of my toys - that way I can post more regular updates!



Here is a small posse of Survivors made by Hasslefree Miniatures. I found them a great break from 40K - the sculpting and detail is VERY good, with hardly any flash to remove. If you guys want close ups on any of them please let me know. I have a bunch of other survivors I can post up here too.




What are survivors without a zombie apocalypse to go with them? I have since finished the basing on these gribbly little suckers. They are zombies from Mantic Games. I am also painting some metal ones from Tengu. Very soon I will have a horde of 50, which is where I will stop for the time being...

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Nice minis, keep up the good work man!
   
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Edinburgh


Thanks, buddy! I will get some better pictures up at a later date but am pleased you like them!

   
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These space marines looks very nice! I'am looking forward to see the sheme applied on Tanks.
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