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Well, I recently found myself in a very interesting situation. Forgive me if I am sketchy on names, as I have no desire to put anyone in hot water just to bring rumours to a forum. I have been making the aquintance of a young Brit over the past several months. Recently, we met for the first time after having talked for some time over email. As we are both huge GW fans, naturally we began talking at length about 40k. At this point my new friend dropped a certain name--Hey, do you know ---- ----? To which I replied, "Yeah, of course I've been into GW for a long time". To my surprise, the gentleman told me that the aforementioned individual was, in fact, his brother. Now, let me just say this: If you know GW the company, and who the inner circle are, and in particular which people would know about products in development, then you too would know the name. Anyway, we proceeded to discuss the future of 40k and this is what I was told. Please keep in mind that Our conversation occured last weekend and I have had a very long week and I'm writing this on a commuter train.
1) The way projects are developed has changed a lot. The process now is that anyone within the group can pitch ideas for approval. I don't know when this became the way of things.
2) Chaos legions codex. Apparently, there will be rules for fielding forces from the various traitor legions. I've heard this rumour around before. He mentioned that part of the focus will be to highlight to differences between normal marines and warped chaos marines, both in the appearance of the model and in the organizational structure of the legion. If I recall correctly, he mentioned this as the first release of 6th edition. Also of note, Apparently a pitch to release traitor guard as a codex was put forward and rejected though the person pitching it put forth a very good proposal.
3) 6th Edition. He said it is just around the corner. I think he was more specific but I don't want to compromise this information with half remembered details. I believe he mentioned 2 codexs to be released before 6th. One was Necrons and the other was either Dark Angels or Eldar. I was surprised at this. Whatever the order was (either DA or Eldar, the other will be the second book in 6th--damn it, I can't remember which one!)
3) The boxed set for 6th with be Chaos versus Dark Angels.
4) I really wanted to get news about the Tau. Heartbreakingly he said that the Tau are not even being talked about at this point. They are way out in the lineup.
Okay, that's pretty much all I remember. You're welcome.
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"drinking liqueur from endangered rain forest flowers cold-distilled over multicolored diamonds while playing croquet on robot elephants using asian swim suit models as living wickets... well, some hobbies are simply more appealing than others." -Sourclams
Wow, thanks forum guy for that well reasoned post. You made that 20 minutes I spent typing that post worthwhile. And a picture of a salt pile...brilliant! You must be really clever to take a proverb like "take it with a pinch of salt" and then post a picture of a heap of salt. People will totally see how a heap of salt means the rumours are really dubious! I mean, wow dude, maybe you can replace all future posts with pictures too. Like maybe a guy putting a palm to his face , like you know, to express a state of complete disapproval. Thanks again!
"drinking liqueur from endangered rain forest flowers cold-distilled over multicolored diamonds while playing croquet on robot elephants using asian swim suit models as living wickets... well, some hobbies are simply more appealing than others." -Sourclams
AesSedai wrote:Wow, thanks forum guy for that well reasoned post. You made that 20 minutes I spent typing that post worthwhile. And a picture of a salt pile...brilliant! You must be really clever to take a proverb like "take it with a pinch of salt" and then post a picture of a heap of salt. People will totally see how a heap of salt means the rumours are really dubious! I mean, wow dude, maybe you can replace all future posts with pictures too. Like maybe a guy putting a palm to his face , like you know, to express a state of complete disapproval. Thanks again!
Thats why you don't spout off at the hole when your being chain yanked. Look at what you wrote, and how you wrote it, again.
Your TFG, with the "Specal info Hush Hush, that you pretty mutch wrote ver batem, from your.... Specal contact." That you can't name,for "Fear of getting in trouble..."
You expect any less of a response? Think next time.
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
To credit the pile of salt, all you're doing is rambling half facts off that you heard from a guy that you met over e-mail. This guy claims to be someone's brother who works at GW, who heard it from one of the developers.
Excuse me for no believing a word of what you've said.
The best part is you managed to type a whole few paragraphs of a rumor post, without actually releasing any relevant information we haven't heard before.
You must be new here...
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I understood. The kid is GW, and he is warning the OP that if he doesn't shut is mouth, GW's going to bury him under the world's largest pile of cocaine.
These rumours all sound plausible. that the dev team has become more dynamic is a great leap forward. Might be that some constructive criticism will make all the difference and smoothe out some of the errors before their printed. as for the chaos guard codex... i dont see it happening. As mentioned before its too close to the guard theme wise and would probably not be too popular... main concern is still what sells
6th soon? we will see... my money is on a summer release next year.
As a tau player this dissappoints me. I thought we werew closeing in on a new codex. Maybe they are not talkin about them because all the changes have already been made to the codex and models
Let us pray to the emperor that the heathen xenos Eldar do not get the second 6th ed codex.
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Thanks for the post, OP. I like the sounds of these rumors.
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...Great if this happens to eb true, one of the two armies I play will have a codex rendered totally useless once more with the release of a new edition? At least with the precedent set with the previous DA codex.
However as rumours of 6th edition ar rampant just now and BT, DA and eldar in theory are due an update this could be speculation through deduction. I am sure you realise the "take with a pinch of salt" applies to any rumour involving 6th edition especially after the GW clamp down on information.
Totally off topic: I PERSONALLY (emphasized to avoid the "pinch of salt" business) heard from a manager at my local games workshop today that there is a new release (not dreadfleet, I got clarification from him) coming up on I *think* saturday he said.
And he mentioned it was a permanent release, meaning that it shouldn't be like dreadfleet whereby it gets released and then never supported...
Being that this manager knows how to make sales, he could just be trying to rouse interest to make people visit the store but I have faith in his words and can't wait to find out what it is.
Interesting info, that's for sure. The thing that makes me think any of it is true is that "traitor guard was pitched but shot down" since it's often one of the things included in the wishlist-style posts that come up. Dark Angels vs. Chaos is thematically great, but I think would be a bit boring for a starter kit, as the two armies play very similar.
"Dark Angels vs. Chaos is thematically great, but I think would be a bit boring for a starter kit, as the two armies play very similar."
Of course, that would not really be a bad thing for a starter box. You don't want one force being that much better than the other force in the box....
I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
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Nothing implausible in the rumours and mostly stuff, that someone else has posted before. Still there are a few other rumours going around, so I wait and see.
Mechanized Space Corps wrote:Totally off topic: I PERSONALLY (emphasized to avoid the "pinch of salt" business) heard from a manager at my local games workshop today that there is a new release (not dreadfleet, I got clarification from him) coming up on I *think* saturday he said.
And he mentioned it was a permanent release, meaning that it shouldn't be like dreadfleet whereby it gets released and then never supported...
Being that this manager knows how to make sales, he could just be trying to rouse interest to make people visit the store but I have faith in his words and can't wait to find out what it is.
Anyone else heard similar?
If so, I'd imagine it's The Hobbit boxed game taking over from the Mines of Moria boxed game. Pretty simple.
To the OP:
All of your points sound feasable and I've seen almost all of those rumours before. However, if you're actually located in Japan, you've pretty much given away the identity of the Design Studio guy's brother simply via your location - to anyone who would know.
Additionally, I can't see the box being CSM vs Dark Angels - GW likes to keep their boxed set SMs nice and generic to starting off kids can use them for any SM army they like. Possible they're painted green instead of blue, though.
raincity wrote:I like the sound of the upcoming chaos legions codex if it proves to be true. Would love a traitor guard codex however!
Well, if the rumour is true (and we won't get a traitor guard codex) then it fits in with what FW have been doing. There are traitor guard army lists, right there, in Vraks books 5-7 if you want to do something similar to the old "Eye of Terror' codex, although there are even more options in the FW books. Not to mention the possibility of doing a 'counts as' if you want to mix guard and marines (books 9 and 10). It could be that GW said no to the traitor guard book (new EoT book or such like) and pushed it for FW to take the reigns over.
And guys you should give the OP a break, in this age of crappy rumours and no indication at all of what is coming sometimes only a week away, we should take everything we get
@ Grot 6-- Normally, I enjoy the piquant flavor you bring dakka. I got to say when it's directed at me, well, not so much. You know sadly I don't think opening up with "Yeah guys, I heard some inside information from the cousin of J.J. Mamalade, Chief Designer of GW Upcoming Releases that...His address is 111 Pennyroyal Lane..." would be a great idea. If you think that makes me TFG, well I suppose I have to live with that.
I'm glad the general attitude in responses has shifted from that of the first few posters. I haven't even given my own thoughts on the info. While I believe what I was told, I never would have believed that GW would put 2 marine armies in a starter if I read it on a forum. However, I think that chaos forces will be made more distinct from their loyalist counterparts in 6th. I got that sense from the way he was talking about the release. Maybe it will make more sense in the future.
@ Scipio-- I never said he was part of the design studio.
Anyway, I have nothing to gain from putting this info out there for you. The gratitude is nice, but the ire is really not worth my time.
"drinking liqueur from endangered rain forest flowers cold-distilled over multicolored diamonds while playing croquet on robot elephants using asian swim suit models as living wickets... well, some hobbies are simply more appealing than others." -Sourclams
"drinking liqueur from endangered rain forest flowers cold-distilled over multicolored diamonds while playing croquet on robot elephants using asian swim suit models as living wickets... well, some hobbies are simply more appealing than others." -Sourclams
Good, just as intended. Still, never sure where that line is about what might be to far for some. Anyways, appreciate the info, and hope GW does not bury under anything, although I suspect that the would use grey plastic instead of illegal drugs.
AesSedai wrote:@ Grot 6-- Normally, I enjoy the piquant flavor you bring dakka. I got to say when it's directed at me, well, not so much. You know sadly I don't think opening up with "Yeah guys, I heard some inside information from the cousin of J.J. Mamalade, Chief Designer of GW Upcoming Releases that...His address is 111 Pennyroyal Lane..." would be a great idea. If you think that makes me TFG, well I suppose I have to live with that.
I'm glad the general attitude in responses has shifted from that of the first few posters. I haven't even given my own thoughts on the info. While I believe what I was told, I never would have believed that GW would put 2 marine armies in a starter if I read it on a forum. However, I think that chaos forces will be made more distinct from their loyalist counterparts in 6th. I got that sense from the way he was talking about the release. Maybe it will make more sense in the future.
@ Scipio-- I never said he was part of the design studio.
Anyway, I have nothing to gain from putting this info out there for you. The gratitude is nice, but the ire is really not worth my time.
Don't start a rumor mill thread if you can't accept that the majority of people aren't going to believe you. Second problem is that you have no credibility, you've never done rumors posts before, and your source is someone you haven't even met IRL, and you can't even disclose the information of who you're e-mailing, just that it's someones brother and we're to trust you, because you trust him.
Third, after it all, all you did was whine about people being skeptical about your rumors. I'd suggest with your delicate sensibilities that you refrain from anymore x told me y told him rumor mill posts. This is just so you don't end up with a tear drenched pillow at the end of the night, because a little kid with a dump truck full of salt ruined your day.
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AesSedai wrote:Recently, we met for the first time after having talked for some time over email.
Kreedos wrote:Don't start a rumor mill thread if you can't accept that the majority of people aren't going to believe you. Second problem is that you have no credibility, you've never done rumors posts before, and your source is someone you haven't even met IRL, and you can't even disclose the information of who you're e-mailing, just that it's someones brother and we're to trust you, because you trust him.
First off, Don't bother posting in a rumour mill thread if you aren't even going to read all of the first post.
Second, I think rule #1 is to be polite, which you were not.
See, I can do that too. On the topic at hand though, I would be a happy player to see half of this come through.