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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44943326/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/t/teen-girl-forced-wear-armor-fight-stepfather-wooden-sword/#.TqZKL5sg88Y

YELM, Wash. — A Thurston County couple is accused of beating their daughter and forcing her to fight them in a medieval-style duel.
Investigators arrested the 16-year-old girl's stepfather, Fremon Seay, and her mother, Julie Seay, this weekend.
According to police, the teen was forced her to dress in armor and fight Fremon Seay with a wooden sword for two hours. Police also said Seay punched and beat his stepdaughter with a tree branch prior to the duel. Investigators said she collapsed from exhaustion.
The couple told officers they punished the teen for going to a party without their permission.
Investigators learned the couple is part of a group of Renaissance enthusiasts, who recreate fights from the medieval era.
Officers said the parents told them it was their right to discipline their child however they see fit.
Police said Julie Seay witnessed the abuse. She is employed at a daycare in Yelm.
The teen reportedly has bruises all over her body, but is expected to recover. She and two other children who live at the home are temporarily staying with other family members.
The couple appeared at the Thurston County Courthouse Monday afternoon.

I mean, he gave her armor. Armor, for feth's sake.

...Um.... Wh-


HUH?!

WHY?!?

I don't even...

This is every warhammer players dream right? lol

Was the stick no thinker than his thumb?


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LunaHound wrote:This is every warhammer players dream right? lol

Beating up their daughters is every Warhammer players dream? Wat?

Makes regular people who like the Renaissance fairs and events like me look like psychos

And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.

ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.

Women have a lower pain threshold than men and usually have less muscle mass as well. That being said I don't think anyone deserves to be hit unless they've been very naughty.

Its like LARPing with their kids, happy parents lol

I guess they just gave her some flak armor or carapace armor at the most because it sounds like she failed her armor save pretty bad.

Now that i got that out of my system...wtf is wrong with those parents, i personally am against corporal punishment, but understand that some people favor it, but it is past the point of reasonable punishment if she is covered with bruises.

ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.

Also unlike her I don't think you were forced against your will when you were sparring.

Ahtman wrote:Was the stick no thinker than his thumb?

Can't do much damage with that then, can we? Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?

LunaHound wrote:Its like LARPing with their kids, happy parents lol

Clearly she needed to cast lightning bolt more then.

I wish before my dad beat me he told me to go get some armor




WA is a very strange state, especially anywhere not called Seattle

All I can say is what the feth

Seriously what the feth

Geez this is what happens when i dont joke much on forums.

Also, the thickness of the stick doesnt mean much.

A stick width of a pinky can open flesh like a whip.

Lordhat wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44943326/ns/local_news-seattle_wa/t/teen-girl-forced-wear-armor-fight-stepfather-wooden-sword/#.TqZKL5sg88Y

YELM, Wash. — A Thurston County couple is accused of beating their daughter and forcing her to fight them in a medieval-style duel.
Investigators arrested the 16-year-old girl's stepfather, Fremon Seay, and her mother, Julie Seay, this weekend.
According to police, the teen was forced her to dress in armor and fight Fremon Seay with a wooden sword for two hours. Police also said Seay punched and beat his stepdaughter with a tree branch prior to the duel. Investigators said she collapsed from exhaustion.
The couple told officers they punished the teen for going to a party without their permission.
Investigators learned the couple is part of a group of Renaissance enthusiasts, who recreate fights from the medieval era.
Officers said the parents told them it was their right to discipline their child however they see fit.
Police said Julie Seay witnessed the abuse. She is employed at a daycare in Yelm.
The teen reportedly has bruises all over her body, but is expected to recover. She and two other children who live at the home are temporarily staying with other family members.
The couple appeared at the Thurston County Courthouse Monday afternoon.

Wow, that is seriously fethed up I hope the parents get what they deserve through the justice system.

LunaHound wrote:Geez this is what happens when i dont joke much on forums.

While I am sure that it is possible to make a joke about this, just flat out saying Warhammer players like to beat their daughters isn't it.

LunaHound wrote:Also, the thickness of the stick doesnt mean much.

It does if you understand the reference. It is ok if you don't.

Wow i never said its warhammer players dream to beat their daughter.

I said warhammer players would love to LARP with their family

n0t_u understood

dogma wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Was the stick no thinker than his thumb?

Can't do much damage with that then, can we? Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?

Getcha a nice little club goin', eh Rosie?


But where's my cat?

Oh Boondock Saints. You're crazy.

Anyways. This story is kinda ridiculous. I have to wonder how long this has been going on or if it was the first time.

Reasonably sure this isn't "Renaissance fans" or LARPers, this sounds more like SCA levels of crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_creative_anachronism

That's the weirdest news story I've heard in a while. Well at least he didn't get the Greatsword out.

This could have been a really good punishment, if he had not actually hit her or bruised her.

"You went to a party we told you not to go to? Now you get to hang out with your parents for 2 hours and do what we want."

Leaving marks on your kid is bad and dumb parenting. Why do people think they can get away with it? People are going to see a bunch of bruises on a teenager and go "Bullying or Abuse, either way, I wanna call the cops!"

Cheesecat wrote:

ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.

Also unlike her I don't think you were forced against your will when you were sparring.

So? she went and disobeyed he parents and went to some sort of party. Bad girl, I think that the parents were justified, she was able to fight back anyhow.

I live in Nepal, so excuse me if I am a bit callous about kids getting switched. it happens a lot where I come from as well as in my american side of the family.

makes us better people. my grandfather had to cut his own birch rod to be whipped with if he acted up.

They gave her armor and she still came out with bruises, ones that would be above and beyond normal?

Are kids today made of wafers or something?

Also going against your primary caretakers wishes, such as going to a party, doesn't give you the right to avoid punishment. I would taken medieval dual over no games for a month ANYDAY.

I think the article said she was beaten, then given armour and forced to duel.

juraigamer wrote:
Also going against your primary caretakers wishes, such as going to a party, doesn't give you the right to avoid punishment.

Hey, that guy over there broke the law, that means I get to shoot his kneecaps off with a 12-gauge, right?

ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

No matter how indefensible something is, on the internet someone will always show up to defend it. It's incredible.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.

She wasn't just in a duel. She was punched and beaten with a tree branch, and after that forced to duel for two hours with a man we can reasonably assume was much, much bigger than her, likely leading to her being struck with a wooden sword many, many times.

This is a really, obviously bad thing.


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ineptus astartes wrote:So? she went and disobeyed he parents and went to some sort of party. Bad girl, I think that the parents were justified, she was able to fight back anyhow.

I live in Nepal, so excuse me if I am a bit callous about kids getting switched. it happens a lot where I come from as well as in my american side of the family.

makes us better people. my grandfather had to cut his own birch rod to be whipped with if he acted up.

It looks like you're keen to drag this thread into an argument about corporal punishment. Fine, I don't have strong opinions against it, in fact I think in the right household it can be useful.

But you really, really shouldn't pretend that's what happened here. Punching a girl, beating her with a stick, and then forcing her to duel with a grown man who was likely many times her size until she collapsed from exhaustion is not the same thing as a quick whack across the back of the leg with a wooden spoon. This is an incredibly obvious thing. So just accept that, accept that what happened in the story was outrageous, and either move on or refine your position and have your argument about corporal punishment.

But don't sit there pretending that what happened to the girl is anything like normal corporal punishment.

Look man, I'm not saying I would like to stand on the sidelines egging the guy on, but minus the tree branch and the punching it did not seem overly bad.

He lives in America (So I assume) where there are a bunch of laws against that thing, punching and beating with a tree branch is not a good thing, especially when the law says no.

Take it from me, I have been beaten a few times and got over it. sure I was mad as feth at my [not telling which parent] but I just pushed it aside and got back into my normal chipperness. in the country I live in we have no laws for child abuse and such, but an American citizen should know better, here its different.


I am just a bit disappointed that the girl could not hold her own, we take physical endurance very seriously here, it just seems to me that all these coddled kids nowadays in the States are made of styrofoam.


wait. quick whack across the leg with a wooden spoon? I am talking about making us cut our own whippy little suckers off the tees, shave them of bark then get flogged across the back.

Somebody get Mattyrm in here!