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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:23:41
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Stalwart Space Marine
Rochester, NY
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Just a quick question for you guys.
Say a Land Raider Crusader blows up another Land Raider with it's Multi-Melta, can it then use "power of the machine spirit" to fire it's assault cannon at that occupants that just piled out of the other raider?
It was my assumption that no, they cannot. The two weapons being fired must be declared before any dice are rolled.
What does Dakka think? Need some rulebook clarification on this as I didn't see it in the INAT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:28:02
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Member of the Malleus
Boston, MA
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No, you cannot. All shots must be declared, and occur, at the same time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:43:08
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sir_Prometheus wrote:No, you cannot. All shots must be declared, and occur, at the same time.
Agreed.
This is the same situation as an infantry unit using their melta or missile launcher to pop a transport. The rest of the squad CANNOT shoot the passengers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:47:17
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Sinewy Scourge
Long Island, New York, USA
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Sir_Prometheus wrote:No, you cannot. All shots must be declared, and occur, at the same time.
Exactly, first sentence under check line of sight & pick a target on page 76 main rules says you can't split a unit's fire among different targets.
POTMS is still the vehicle firing so is the same unit as the vehicle.
A vehicle and it's occupants could fire at different targets because they are 2 separate units.
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I have found again and again that in encounter actions, the day goes to the side that is the first to plaster its opponent with fire. The man who lies low and awaits developments usually comes off second best. - Erwin Rommel
"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:55:45
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Gun Mage
In the Chaos Wastes, Killing the Chaos scum of the north
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I agree that you can't since they must be declared at the same time, but, there is no restriction on using POTMS on a different target, it says so in the codex, IIRC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 20:56:29
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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time wizard wrote:Sir_Prometheus wrote:No, you cannot. All shots must be declared, and occur, at the same time.
Exactly, first sentence under check line of sight & pick a target on page 76 main rules says you can't split a unit's fire among different targets.
POTMS is still the vehicle firing so is the same unit as the vehicle.
A vehicle and it's occupants could fire at different targets because they are 2 separate units.
Right, but POTMS allows you to fire at a different unit. Same as Long Fangs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 21:03:18
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Shrike325 wrote:Right, but POTMS allows you to fire at a different unit. Same as Long Fangs.
Yes, it lets you fire at a different target... but that target has to be declared at the same time as the rest of the vehicle's shooting, and is resolved at the same time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0014/10/26 21:14:17
Subject: Power of the Machine Spirit question
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Sinewy Scourge
Long Island, New York, USA
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insaniak wrote:Shrike325 wrote:Right, but POTMS allows you to fire at a different unit. Same as Long Fangs.
Yes, it lets you fire at a different target... but that target has to be declared at the same time as the rest of the vehicle's shooting, and is resolved at the same time.
Quite correct, the POTMS shot can be fired at a different target just at the same time as the vehicle.
Sorry for any confusion.
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I have found again and again that in encounter actions, the day goes to the side that is the first to plaster its opponent with fire. The man who lies low and awaits developments usually comes off second best. - Erwin Rommel
"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin
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