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Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Talys wrote:

Well, keep in mind that he's cheaper than Nagash (one tier lower). My point is just that his pricing is totally within expectations (who really thought he would be cheaper than $80? People were saying he'd be more than Nagash).

I would have. Unless I'm missing how big he is, I wouldnt have expected him to cost more than something like the Thudertusk or Coven Throne, which are what, like $60? Maybe it's been a while since I looked at the cost of GW's big kits. He's a nice enough model, but I think a lot of that has to do with the really bang up paint job. Those magic swirls will look a lot less amazing with your average paint job.

$80 buys this from Mierce, which is in resin and is, IMO a more detailed sculpt.

Spoiler:

That's really nice.

I wonder what uk shipping is like

edited by Manchu

@Az - The subject should be news & rumors. I suggest we stick to it; please spoiler large graphics that don't have anything to do with the subject.

If you think the new model is overly expensive, say so; just expect that people who disagree will also say so. No need to get hostile about it.

To get back to that subject -- personally, I think Celestant Prime will be no less popular than Nagash, Treeman, Mortarch, or any of those models and sell in similar or slightly higher volumes. I'm not sure what your experience is in your area, but Sigmarites and Chaos are by far the two most popular AoS factions here.

migooo wrote:

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Talys wrote:

Well, keep in mind that he's cheaper than Nagash (one tier lower). My point is just that his pricing is totally within expectations (who really thought he would be cheaper than $80? People were saying he'd be more than Nagash).

I would have. Unless I'm missing how big he is, I wouldnt have expected him to cost more than something like the Thudertusk or Coven Throne, which are what, like $60? Maybe it's been a while since I looked at the cost of GW's big kits. He's a nice enough model, but I think a lot of that has to do with the really bang up paint job. Those magic swirls will look a lot less amazing with your average paint job.

$80 buys this from Mierce, which is in resin and is, IMO a more detailed sculpt.

Spoiler:

That's really nice.

I wonder what uk shipping is like

It is, that guy is massive (120mm base)!

Inside the UK, they offer free shipping if you spend £30 or more, outside the UK its free if you spend £80 or more. Otherwise its £3 in the UK and £8 outside.

migooo wrote:

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

 Talys wrote:

Well, keep in mind that he's cheaper than Nagash (one tier lower). My point is just that his pricing is totally within expectations (who really thought he would be cheaper than $80? People were saying he'd be more than Nagash).

I would have. Unless I'm missing how big he is, I wouldnt have expected him to cost more than something like the Thudertusk or Coven Throne, which are what, like $60? Maybe it's been a while since I looked at the cost of GW's big kits. He's a nice enough model, but I think a lot of that has to do with the really bang up paint job. Those magic swirls will look a lot less amazing with your average paint job.

$80 buys this from Mierce, which is in resin and is, IMO a more detailed sculpt.

Spoiler:

That's really nice.

I wonder what uk shipping is like

He's BIG:

None of this is news or rumors

Instead of making the Celestant Prime(tm) an upscaled Sigmarine... I truly think that GW squandered a lot of possibilities with the line by making them all look so god(emperor)damn the same.

Would it have killed them to make their "greater demon" model more classically inspired instead of just another automaton in a gold suit?

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 Talys wrote:

To get back to that subject -- personally, I think Celestant Prime will be no less popular than Nagash, Treeman, Mortarch, or any of those models and sell in similar or slightly higher volumes. I'm not sure what your experience is in your area, but Sigmarites and Chaos are by far the two most popular AoS factions here.

I think Nagash was popular mostly because he is such a fabled character and at the time, he was so different from much of what had been released previously. A year has gone by since then and I think the OTT style and size isn't as exciting or jaw-dropping as it was. I like some aspects of this guy, but I can't get past the fact that he is just hovering there and has no real motion to him. I guess my point is, I don't see him selling to the level Nagash did (though I couldn't really tell you what sales were like for Nagash so who knows). Personally, I could see myself paying for Nagash because of the lore behind him, not about the same amount for random big-guy number 3.

As every release continues to roll out for this, I feel pushed further and further away from this game. I've played about 8 games of it and only one was fun and interesting. The rest just kind of devolved into running at each other and rolling a ton of dice and looking back at a separate page of rules for every single thing on the table. Was hard to get into a real groove with it. I bought the starter because the price was right and I already had Empire which I figured I could mix-and-match in with the Stormcasts and Skaven that I could use along with the Chaos. But, all the new stuff is priced past a point I feel comfortable investing in and seeing that I would have to spend $74 every other month to get 8 scenarios to make the game playable, it just isn't jiving with my pocket book.

Yet, I keep hanging out here, hoping to see something that will draw me back in and make this game work in my mind. It is like those old romance movies - I'm waiting for my long lost lover to come back, hoping that it wasn't completely destroyed when the planet exploded...

 Talys wrote:
personally, I think Celestant Prime will be no less popular than Nagash, Treeman, Mortarch, or any of those models and sell in similar or slightly higher volumes. I'm not sure what your experience is in your area, but Sigmarites and Chaos are by far the two most popular AoS factions here.

My personal take would be that it looks much worse than any of the models you mention - it doesn't hold a candle to Nagash, a model I personally wasn't sure about but which certainly had style.

As for Sigmarites and Chaos being the most popular AoS factions - of course, they're the only ones with new models for AoS!

General GW Head Honcho advice to their design team going forward:

'Needs more swirling things. Swirling things galore.'

Meanwhile:

Nagash: ' Um, spirits? Can you put me down now? My legs have gone to sleep...'

 RiTides wrote:

My personal take would be that it looks much worse than any of the models you mention - it doesn't hold a candle to Nagash, a model I personally wasn't sure about but which certainly had style.

As for Sigmarites and Chaos being the most popular AoS factions - of course, they're the only ones with new models for AoS!

Well, yeah, but that doesn't mean you can't play Wood Elves (Sylvaneth) or Skaven. I actually forgot Skaven -- they seem to be very popular too.

Trailing robes and ribbons raising him to the same level would have looked a thousand times better than the swirly bits, to me. Rather than looking like he's floating along, it would look like he's flying up to that level to face off against something in combat. Right now the bits look like they're just to add unnecessary volume.

And a 50-60 dollar price tag, but that's semantics.

Ordered my Khornetress. 3 Gates and 4 Overlord Bastions.

Feeling a little flush then HBMC?

I think it's a boring model, but then the whole Stormcast range is for me. Guess they had all the good designers working on the AdMech instead.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ordered my Khornetress. 3 Gates and 4 Overlord Bastions.

That's it?

I'm kinda disappointed in you, HBMC.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ordered my Khornetress. 3 Gates and 4 Overlord Bastions.

We have both been banging on about it since the first blurry images of it came out in the early days of AOS, the difference? You put your money where your mouth is. I expect a p and m blog on your work on it H.B.M.C...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ordered my Khornetress. 3 Gates and 4 Overlord Bastions.

I wonder how the Khornetress walls will fit in with 40k Bastions as the towers.

All the bundles have been edited for price now and no longer offer any discount.

Shame too since I was going to buy the nurgle one for £95 since essentially you get a box of blightkings free.





OT - don't like the prime.
He's crowded with rubbish that isn't needed and it takes away from the model too much.
Far too static as well, needs some movement in him.

That and the price for him is laughable.

Il pass on this one I think and use the money not spent on him to add to buying a mumak (chaos war mammoth)

 Jackal wrote:
All the bundles have been edited for price now and no longer offer any discount.

Wow... GW really is allergic to success it seems. I thought they had at least turned a corner in regards to bundles after the Sylvaneth Warhost, but I guess they decided that sales are bad because then those sales will compete with sales of other products, and we can't have that.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
All the bundles have been edited for price now and no longer offer any discount.

Wow... GW really is allergic to success it seems. I thought they had at least turned a corner in regards to bundles after the Sylvaneth Warhost, but I guess they decided that sales are bad because then those sales will compete with sales of other products, and we can't have that.

Things like the Sylvaneth Warhost are wildly different to the "one-click bundles".

If it has a box, is a combination of items and has a discount? That's intentional.
If it has no unique box, is a combination of items and has a discount? Not intentional.

Yeah, GW doesn't seem to have a concept of economy of scale.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Things like the Sylvaneth Warhost are wildly different to the "one-click bundles".

If it has a box, is a combination of items and has a discount? That's intentional.
If it has no unique box, is a combination of items and has a discount? Not intentional.

Yeah, there are box sets which offer 20% or more in the way of discounts (note that most of these are also not web order, so you can get a full discount from your FLGS off of the discounted price!). Most of them represent some kind of formation (not all; eg the new space marine battle forces), and you can think of them kind of like a starter box. The "bundles" are simply there to uh... inspire you... to buy groups of items together.

Forge world bundles have a discount though!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
All the bundles have been edited for price now and no longer offer any discount.

Wow... GW really is allergic to success it seems. I thought they had at least turned a corner in regards to bundles after the Sylvaneth Warhost, but I guess they decided that sales are bad because then those sales will compete with sales of other products, and we can't have that.

Things like the Sylvaneth Warhost are wildly different to the "one-click bundles".

If it has a box, is a combination of items and has a discount? That's intentional.
If it has no unique box, is a combination of items and has a discount? Not intentional.

I am aware that they didn't intend for a discount, what I am saying is that I was hoping they had changed policies and were intending to offer a discount, and that it is disappointing (on multiple levels) that such isn't the case.

 keezus wrote:
I wonder how the Khornetress walls will fit in with 40k Bastions as the towers.

Well I own a fair few of those as well, so I guess we'll find out.

As I said before, model is that ok, but the swirly stuff is a waste of plastic, might as well wait for a box of normal angel troops which will likely be cheaper and convert them into the prime, I was hoping for 6 wings like a seraphim some inhuman features etc

Will rather buy an angel squad and convert them.... :/ but at least he would make for a great add-on to a none stormcast force

@HBMC - grats on khorne fort, and share pictures when it's done, please!

I saw the actual product today; it looks solid. All the parts are on sprues, by the way.

 Kanluwen wrote:
That's it?

I'm kinda disappointed in you, HBMC.

They're ludicrously overpriced. A Dreadhold Keep is about the same size as the Imperial Bastion. One costs AUD$50. The other costs 250% more than that. It's absurd. It's fething insulting really - the prices are pants-on-head slowed.

Now, granted, I'm not paying full AUD retail (because I'm not an idiot), but I'd sure as hell be buying a lot more if the pricing matched that of planet strike rather than being double and a half+ the price.

I'm also still deciding on additional walls. I need 2, but I'm wondering about getting four. Sadly GW fails at basic retail practices, so their "4 for the price of 4" deal just seems stupid.

ImAGeek wrote:I think yours was definitely fine. I just hope we see something different soon, because the Sigmarites and Chaos is really getting dull now, and I'd like to see the direction they take some of the other races in.

Given the only release so far has been repacking a unit from 2008-ish (I think?), I'm guessing "nowhere new".

RiTides wrote:As for Sigmarites and Chaos being the most popular AoS factions - of course, they're the only ones with new models for AoS!

Nu-uh, Skaven got totally new models!


Wait, no, bases. I meant bases.