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Howdy all,

After this last tourney I've decided to rework my list. This is what I've come up with for 1850:

HQ
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Necron overlord - scythe, Barge w/ Gauss - 180 pts
Nemesor Zahndrekh - 185 pts
court 1 - 3x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 125 pts
court 1 - 3x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 125 pts

Elites
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5x Lychguard - Scythes - 200 pts

Troops
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5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (1x tek here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (1x tek here)

Fast attack
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6x wraiths - 3x coils, 1x pistol - 245 pts
7x Scarabs - 105 pts
7x Scarabs - 105 pts

Heavy
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Anni barge w/ gauss - 90 pts
Anni barge w/ gauss - 90 pts
Anni Barge w/ gauss - 90 pts

Total: 1800 pts

Thoughts: So, edited the list yet again... I'm totally obsessed with running Lychguard for some odd reason. That said, I've got 50 points left to spare.

Overall with the list I did the following:
- cut 1 wraith unit
- Swapped CCB lord with Nemesor
- Added 2 scarab swarms
- Added the lychguard
- Cut 2 teks

Overall I'm thinking of adding a chronotek for the guard. The thought is the Guard run interferance, sticking in cover and getting a 3+ cover with stealth normally. Thoughts?

well the fire power is good. The wraiths are great as a assault deterrent. digging the stalkers as they can help with the night fight on your side. nice seems balanced but you never know till its on the table. would suggest ghost ark or two if you have them if not protect your warriors as they will be targeted. Use the barges to knock out all template weapons fast move the fast half off your army forward to distract the opponent just remember if they have any reserves and what they are.

Good luck and may your dice roll high

Local Necron Menace 78729 wrote:well the fire power is good. The wraiths are great as a assault deterrent. digging the stalkers as they can help with the night fight on your side. nice seems balanced but you never know till its on the table. would suggest ghost ark or two if you have them if not protect your warriors as they will be targeted. Use the barges to knock out all template weapons fast move the fast half off your army forward to distract the opponent just remember if they have any reserves and what they are.

Good luck and may your dice roll high

glad it looks good! Has far more firepower than my last list.

I would personally try to work in a 4th troop choice and another 2 HoD-Crypteks to accompany them. The Lances are going to love the Stalkers' twin-linking, and you could really use another scoring unit at this point level anyway. Not sure about the Overlord/2 Lord/Warriors unit...it seems like a deadly counter-assault unit (since they unfortunately cannot assault out of a Monolith), but I feel like you've already got enough of that in your Wraiths. My preference would be another CCB for the second Overlord. They can be incredibly annoying as a pair.

I think you could also do without the Monolith. The LOS-blocking is really nice, but you already have 2 Pulses to deter enemy shooting. IME, the Wraiths don't want to move at a Monolith's pace anyway and Wraithflight already allows them to take full advantage of LOS-blocking terrain.

I think I'd prefer to have a Second barge, than an Overlord on foot like that. CCBs have preformed well for me in every game.

I'd be concerned about combat resolution in the "Lordstar" as the warriors are going to go down quick in CC. MSS can certainly help mitigate that, but It's till something I'd be concerned about.

You could do a lot of if you Dropped that Monolith as well. You could have a third Annihilation barge, and 120 points to spend around your list. I Think those points would prove more valuable than the Monolith.

If you got rid of the Two lords, and the Monolith you have a TON of points to play around with.

whigwam wrote:I would personally try to work in a 4th troop choice and another 2 HoD-Crypteks to accompany them. The Lances are going to love the Stalkers' twin-linking, and you could really use another scoring unit at this point level anyway. Not sure about the Overlord/2 Lord/Warriors unit...it seems like a deadly counter-assault unit (since they unfortunately cannot assault out of a Monolith), but I feel like you've already got enough of that in your Wraiths. My preference would be another CCB for the second Overlord. They can be incredibly annoying as a pair.

I think you could also do without the Monolith. The LOS-blocking is really nice, but you already have 2 Pulses to deter enemy shooting. IME, the Wraiths don't want to move at a Monolith's pace anyway and Wraithflight already allows them to take full advantage of LOS-blocking terrain.

I didn't think about that with the liths... but I do see your point with the Lordstar as well. I think I was trying a gimmick lol. Modified the list!

Zid wrote:Howdy all,

After this last tourney I've decided to rework my list. This is what I've come up with;

HQ
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Necron overlord - scythe, Barge w/ Gauss - 180 pts
Necron overlord - scythe, Barge w/ Gauss - 180 pts
court 1 - 4x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 160 pts
court 1 - 4x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 160 pts

Elite
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Triarch stalker - 150 pts
Triarch stalker - 150 pts

Troops
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5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (1x teks here)

Fast attack
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6x wraiths - 3x coils - 240 pts
6x wraiths - 3x coils - 240 pts

Heavy
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Anni barge - 90 pts
Anni barge - 90 pts
Anni Barge - 90 pts

Total: 1990 pts

Edited the list to have 4 troops, 2 Command Barges, and added more HoD teks. Thoughts?

Much, much better. For your last 10pts, get particle casters for your 2 wraith units for wound allocation.

Nice changes, that looks dangerous! I like the Stalkers here a lot. *Edit: Nevermind, misread something*

As you know I don't like the Warriors on foot as they are easy to kill, though I don't think that's worth mentioning much more.

How are you finding the double pulses?

jy2 wrote:

Zid wrote:Howdy all,

After this last tourney I've decided to rework my list. This is what I've come up with;

HQ
----
Necron overlord - scythe, Barge w/ Gauss - 180 pts
Necron overlord - scythe, Barge w/ Gauss - 180 pts
court 1 - 4x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 160 pts
court 1 - 4x HOD Teks, 1x Pulse - 160 pts

Elite
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Triarch stalker - 150 pts
Triarch stalker - 150 pts

Troops
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5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (2x teks here)
5x warriors - 65 pts (1x teks here)

Fast attack
-----------
6x wraiths - 3x coils - 240 pts
6x wraiths - 3x coils - 240 pts

Heavy
--------
Anni barge - 90 pts
Anni barge - 90 pts
Anni Barge - 90 pts

Total: 1990 pts

Edited the list to have 4 troops, 2 Command Barges, and added more HoD teks. Thoughts?

Much, much better. For your last 10pts, get particle casters for your 2 wraith units for wound allocation.

Good idea!


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mercer wrote:As you know I don't like the Warriors on foot as they are easy to kill, though I don't think that's worth mentioning much more.

How are you finding the double pulses?

Well I'm also not attempting a mech-spam like you do either I'll let you know when I get to testing

Love your current list Zid, it's really close to my 2k one as well.

I assume you are taking Underslung Gauss Cannons on the Abarges as well?

Sasori wrote:Love your current list Zid, it's really close to my 2k one as well.

I assume you are taking Underslung Gauss Cannons on the Abarges as well?

Course! Marine killy goodness. I think double-tesla isn't as good, got plenty of horde killing power elseware

Zid wrote:

mercer wrote:As you know I don't like the Warriors on foot as they are easy to kill, though I don't think that's worth mentioning much more.

How are you finding the double pulses?

Well I'm also not attempting a mech-spam like you do either I'll let you know when I get to testing

Erm...ok.... though are you aware you have 7 av13 vehicles and I have 8 av13 vehicles, looks like you're attempting to mech-spam like me very well .

You'll have to keep us updated on how this list performs.

I'm not having much luck with MSU Necrons... It's nice to have the weapons, but they fold up in any kind of assault (against guard infantry, for heavens sake!!!)

I challenge you

mercer wrote:

Zid wrote:

mercer wrote:As you know I don't like the Warriors on foot as they are easy to kill, though I don't think that's worth mentioning much more.

How are you finding the double pulses?

Well I'm also not attempting a mech-spam like you do either I'll let you know when I get to testing

Erm...ok.... though are you aware you have 7 av13 vehicles and I have 8 av13 vehicles, looks like you're attempting to mech-spam like me very well .

Everything (minus wraiths, spyders, and scarabs) is in some kind of armor tho Honestly, I just think CCB's, Anni Barges, and Stalkers just compliment this list too well NOT to use them. Honestly I wasn't going for armor when I built this list, I was going "what compliments 8 crypteks and wraiths well..." and this is what popped out. Of course, it was different before peeps suggestions tho.


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cormadepanda wrote:
I challenge you

I'd have to proxy quite a bit :(


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Anpu-adom wrote:You'll have to keep us updated on how this list performs.

I'm not having much luck with MSU Necrons... It's nice to have the weapons, but they fold up in any kind of assault (against guard infantry, for heavens sake!!!)

MSU I don't feel will be the way to go with 'Crons in 6th, but as of now, if you field enough other threats (JY terms it "Max Threat Overload" which is a good term I reckon) then the warriors will live, at least for a while. As long as one Cryptek per unit gets back up you'll always have troops!

I'll get some test games in eventually, but the 'Crons are on hold for my Deathwing for now. I can actually finish that army relatively cheap while my 'Crons need quite a lot to be table ready

List updated.... I want to make room for 2 veilteks after reading some reps, they give much needed mobility to my static warriors. Thinking I can cut the stalkers for now... Thoughts??

Despite my prejudices against MSU necrons, this list looks exceptionally difficult to deal with, your wraiths can intercept anything that would seek to close in on your warrior blobs, and that many vehicles is going to be a royal pain to deal with, esp considering all of them a threat in their own right.
I can see it now, stalkers firing and twin linking lances for extra lulz, i'd keep them for the twin linking, and fire support.
Please keep us posted on how it does!

May I suggest to put tyrazin he has great special rule.
When I do apoc games and simply phlonk 3-5 monoliths and ruin the other guys day. This dose not work in 2k lists but whats with all the bardges? You just sniping with large blast templates? Add a monolith instead of a Anni barge

Nurgle wrote:May I suggest to put tyrazin he has great special rule.
When I do apoc games and simply phlonk 3-5 monoliths and ruin the other guys day. This dose not work in 2k lists but whats with all the bardges? You just sniping with large blast templates? Add a monolith instead of a Anni barge

Monoliths don't add anything to the list. What I lacked was high volume firepower to knock out threats reliably, and barges fit that bill perfectly. Necrons are slow, so I needed ways to knock dow my opponents mobility and catch them.


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iGuy91 wrote:Despite my prejudices against MSU necrons, this list looks exceptionally difficult to deal with, your wraiths can intercept anything that would seek to close in on your warrior blobs, and that many vehicles is going to be a royal pain to deal with, esp considering all of them a threat in their own right.
I can see it now, stalkers firing and twin linking lances for extra lulz, i'd keep them for the twin linking, and fire support.
Please keep us posted on how it does!

Thanks! I'm still unsure on the stalkers but guess ill test em and see how it does.

Mulling over the list I'm thinking of making some changes... Thinking of cutting the wraiths to a single unit and cutting the stalkers. Reason being: I wanna run something different! While wraiths are great, stalkers are OK, I think a couple scarab units instead, and mix up the tek's a bit, and maybe run some Deathmarks and Lychguard.

Thoughts?

So I'm thinking... 1850 I'll use 10x scarabs in place of the stalkers. At 2k I'll use 2 stalkers. Over 2k not sure where to put points, possibly more troops and a third wraith unit???

Zid wrote:Over 2k not sure where to put points, possibly more troops and a third wraith unit???

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(translation: sounds good! Let us know if you're able to make/test those builds, they seem pretty legit)

Edited the list yet again. I can either do sword/board Lychguard and throw back in my CCB lord, but I need to then find points for an orblord. Or so scythes and run Nemesor as my Draigo, soaking up wounds and giving my Lyches a huge buff.

Two games down and I'm still on the fence about the guard...

How'd they do?
(I'm convinced they're meant to be played with Obyron, so he can Ghostwalk them across the board. That way you'll actually be able to get some use out of them, rather than hoping they eventually make it into combat as they gradually stroll across the field).

Honestly, I'd give them the shields if the problem you are having is AP 3 shooting, otherwise, getting some kind of VoD to get them across the field would be preferable.