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I am not looking for comments on the list as I already have the models painted and all ready for the tournament on Saturday. What I cant decide is the lores to use. Should I have all my casters take Lore of Beasts so I can really beaf up my knights and give the SC within range of the Prophetess +3str and +3 attacks with the Savage Beast of Horos? Or should the damsels take Beats for Wildform and the Prophetess take Life to regenerate wounds on the SC, bring back knights and hopefully get Dwellers Below? If it helps I am expecting to be playing against at least 1 other Bret army, 1-2 Skavens, and 1 Ogres with possibly elves making an appearance.

LORDS
Lord w/Shield, Horse, Virtue of Heroism, Heartwood Lance, Dawnstone - 234

Prophetess w/lvl 4, Lore of Beasts, Horse, Earthing Rod - 265

HEROES
Paladin w/BSB, Horse, Gromhil Great Helm, Biting Blade - 104

Paladin w/ Horse, Enchanted Shield, Birth Sword of Carcossone, Potion of Foolhardiness- 119

Damsel w/Horse, Dispel Scroll, Lore of Beasts - 105

Damselw/Horse, Silver Mirror, Lore of Beasts - 120

CORE
7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Eternal Flame - 202

8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 216

7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Discipline- 207

8 Knights Errents w/Full Command, Errentry Banner - 201

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130


RARE

Trebuchet - 90

The beast signature spell needs a 9+ to cast when targeting cav. With level 1 casters, you need an 8+; which basically means you need to throw 3 dice with level 1's to have a chance.
Typically that leaves you a little heavy on wizards and light on power dice.

On the flip side, a level 1 with lore of life isn't very useful. 5+ regen for the wizards unit is pretty meh when you've got the blessing for a true ward save.

If you go life on the level 4, you're going to want to pretty much toss all your dice with your level 4, making the level 1's redundant.

So without changing the list at all, I'd go with Beast on the Level 1's (and take the default) and go Heavens on the Level 4.
Level 1's tossing out the beast default and the level 4 tossing out the heavens default if you're in combat, (-1 to be hit and -1 leadership is awesome), and a bit of direct damage options never hurt either.

-Matt

The awesome bret player I know takes a lvl 4 heavens with his archers, and a single lvl1 beast mounted.

HawaiiMatt wrote: So without changing the list at all, I'd go with Beast on the Level 1's (and take the default) and go Heavens on the Level 4.
Level 1's tossing out the beast default and the level 4 tossing out the heavens default if you're in combat, (-1 to be hit and -1 leadership is awesome), and a bit of direct damage options never hurt either.

-Matt

This is actually a really good idea, I think I'm going to do this with my Bret list. The only spell I was casting on my lvl 2 with beasts was the signature anyway.

@ Acardia: What I like about that is that setup is that the level 1 is the one riding with knights- and only throwing 3 dice at her spell. I've been appalled at the damage a Bret miscast can do to a knight lance.

Red_Zeke wrote:@ Acardia: What I like about that is that setup is that the level 1 is the one riding with knights- and only throwing 3 dice at her spell. I've been appalled at the damage a Bret miscast can do to a knight lance.

QFT. I like the setup suggested as well.

Heavens is amazing with brets. Curse of the midnight winds make them all but immune to killing blow and the re roll 1's helps with rubber lances and gives them amazing armour saves (against str 3 its effectivly a re roll armour saves spell.)