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1000 point list will be something like:


mek
kff 85

30 boyz
nob
boss pole
power klaw
big shoota
big shoota
rokkit 240

30 boyz
nob
boss pole
power klaw
big shoota
big shoota
rokkit 240

6 nobz
1. power klaw
twin shoota
2. power klaw
3. kombi scorcha
4. kombi rokkit
5. bosspole
6. big choppa
twin shoota 200

trukk

4 burnas + 1 mek 75

4 lootas + 1 mek 75

3 warbikers
nob 85

boyz march forwards under the protection of the kff. the nobs will stay close behind ready to pounce on any 'vulnerable' units. burna boyz steal the nobz dedicated trukk and blast down a flank covered by the warbikes dust cloud to make some caught out fools do the burny dance or chop up some elites using their burna touch power weapons!

list will be used at my LFGS to take on all comers.....


what do you guys think?

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Seems like a pretty good start to a horde type list. A few things i would suggest though.

Not too sold on a KFF mek in an army with only 1 trukk. the kff is only a 5+ cover save to boys on foot, maybe a klaw wearing warboss might be better in the hq. (or the hilarious SAG for the mek to hold... )

Nothing wrong with the boys mobs on foot imo, idk if you are using sluggas or shootas but on foot i believe shootas are the more efficient choice.

I think your burnas and lootas mobs are too small imo, maybe combine them into 1 large mob of 1 or the other. Lootas can be pretty nice in a footslogging list for throwing out dome long range shots and popping light armor. I dont recommend burnas in squads smaller than 8-10 and i would always run them with a battlewagon. (less squishy than our trukks)

Just my 2 cents but the list looks like a pretty good start to me good luck with it.

The good doctor has some important points.

I would keep the KFF, as it will save 1/3 of the wounds you sustain.

I don't like footslogging burna boyz.....they die like orks and cost two and a half times the amount of a boy....that's WAY too much, IMO.

I also don't like throwing a trukk in the list, even if it is to carry the nobz. Trukks go down even to light weapons fire, regardless of the KFF.

Expanding on that matter, I'm not fond of footslogging nobz.....they're just too vulnerable, everything that would be directed at vehicles will instead be directed at the nobz, and will cause ID(krak missiles, lascannons, meltas, etc.).

Warbikes are like throwing the trukk in, and operate at a different speed from the rest of the army. Also, if you're going to spend 10 points on a nob, you might as well buy him a BP.

Shootas are more efficient for footslogging mobs. You're better off throwing all big shootas or all rokkits on the mobs as well.....a single rokkit launcha won't make much difference at all....but if you're going for a vehicle, those BS and shoota/slugga shots are mainly wasted. Make the mobs anti-infantry or anti-vehicular(but keep in mind that 30 boyz with 3 rokkits is not very good ranged AV).

If you're boyz are slugga/choppa equipped, you're better off running them in the shooting phase, in which case you really don't need special weapons.

I'd drop the warbikes, burnas, and nobz for another boyz mob, add a few more lootas, and add some big gunz(kannon) if you're sticking with the Green Tide.

So, what I think of the list as it stands?

The burnas and lootas only need a couple wounds to make them run, and the warbikes only one.

Popping the trukk will probably cause a few wounds, and then force the nobz to slog along with everyone else, but that kareen result may move them out of KFF range.

At 1k, Green Tide, I'd try something like:

85 - KFF Big Mek

75 - 5 Lootas
75 - 5 Lootas

220 - 30 boyz, nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 boyz, nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 boyz, nob upgrade w/PK, BP

40 - 2 Kannons
40 - 2 Kannons
25 - 1 Lobba

1000 points on the dot, and gives you fire support while you're charging. You can take care of light vehicles between the lootas and kannon, and the kannon have the option of a blast shot as well as being able to glance AV14. I don't use lobbas normally, but had an extra 5 points, so why not for some fun?

Either way, enjoy! I hope I'm not coming off as harsh, or as an a55, I'm just keeping it real and talking straight! Bring the WAAAGH!!! to them, and have fun

If you have aobr deffkoptas and do not like deffkoptas convert them into a bike to make a 6 man bike squad, it's a little more resilient.

My other suggestion is to have a grot wall to give your guys a 4+ cover save for the guys behind them and let you get a warboss without as much worry.

I find that nobs at lower point levels are just as effective as a warboss attached to a squad of boys.

Your current list means that every strength 8+ weapon is going to fly right at the 1 piece of armor you have, and then start instant deathing the nobs as they run across the field.

Look at how most people set up nobs into wound allocation, FNp, inv. saves nightmares.

Wanted to add that big shootas in squads of boyz is fine by me.

That you will want some rockets for antitank, though not on boyz.
So add a good number of kanz with rockets.
Or 3 suicidal koptas with rockets and saws.
Or go for those 4 kannons though make it at least 6 with full number of ammo runts and probably runtherdz and maybe some extra grots.