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2012/05/02 02:32:28
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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I have been working on my tournament list for a local tourney and I have 1 problem.... I'm over 90 points....I have a few solutions I have been toying with but none of them make me happy. First I thought I could drop Crow and run with Inquisitor Coteaz. That would save me 50 points and I could drop the Psybolt Ammo on both my strike squads and save the other 40 to get me the 90. There is one major problem with that. That would drop my troop composition to below 35% and my elite composition up to like 60-ish. This would destroy my overall army composition score. The other option would be to drop some units... but the thought just makes me sick...
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on what you would do? I'm open to suggestions and or comments on how to deal with this particular rosters(style) composition issues.
Army = 2090
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Crow 150
TROOPS
Strike Squad 295
Justicar- MC DH
GK's-2 Psycannons
GK's-7
Psybolt Ammunition
Rhino
Strike Squad 295
Justicar- MC DH
GK's-2 Psycannons
GK's-7
Psybolt Ammunition
Rhino
Purifier Squad 360
Knight of the Flame- MC DH
Purifier-4 Psycannons
Purifier-5 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammunition
Rhino
Purifier Squad 360
Knight of the Flame- MC DH
Purifier-4 Psycannons
Purifier-5 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammunition
Rhino
Purifier Squad 360
Knight of the Flame- MC DH
Purifier-4 Psycannons
Purifier-5 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammunition
Rhino
Heavy Support
Dreadnought 135
2 TL AC
Psybolt Ammunition
Heavy Support
Dreadnought 135
2 TL AC
Psybolt Ammunition
P.S. please only leave helpful comments and leave the QQ at home thanks!!! =)
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2012/05/02 03:44:51
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I dont think you have optimal use of the psycannons.
You see Grey Knight armies have a formula for how good they are based on how many psycannons they have.
Total # Of Psycannons(4)/PointLevel = Max Psycannon Pwnage.
16(4)/2000 = .032 Psycannon Factorial.
You need atleast a .05 Psycannon Factorial to be a competitive GK player, so please re-do your list to have more psycannons.
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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2012/05/02 04:02:00
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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I changed up the roster a little bit and it fixed my composition problems as well. Please let me know what you think... I appreciate all constructive comments.
Total Points =1999
HQ
Crow 150
TROOPS
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
HEAVY
Purgation Squad 200
Justicar
GK- 4 Psycannons
Psybolt Ammo
Purgation Squad 200
Justicar
GK- 4 Psycannons
Psybolt Ammo
ELITE
Venerable Dreadnought 195
2 TL AC
Psybolt Ammo
With this set up I have good psycannon presence although using the formula above I am still below the .05 at .0402. But i figured the added psyfleman dread will help with that. He may be a target but I think its a risk worth taking.
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2012/05/02 05:09:18
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Just make a 10 man purifier squad down to a 5-man. Probably more than 90 points saved that way. Could make their rhino a razorback with psybolt heavy bolter.
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40k Armies I play:
Glory for Slaanesh!
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2012/05/02 05:15:27
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Smitty0305 wrote:I dont think you have optimal use of the psycannons.
You see Grey Knight armies have a formula for how good they are based on how many psycannons they have.
Total # Of Psycannons(4)/PointLevel = Max Psycannon Pwnage.
16(4)/2000 = .032 Psycannon Factorial.
You need atleast a .05 Psycannon Factorial to be a competitive GK player, so please re-do your list to have more psycannons.
That's a joke, right?
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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2012/05/02 05:21:32
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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He seems pretty serious =) At least I took it that way. But I have a habit of taking candy from strangers =")
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2012/05/02 05:28:10
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crazyterran wrote:Smitty0305 wrote:I dont think you have optimal use of the psycannons.
You see Grey Knight armies have a formula for how good they are based on how many psycannons they have.
Total # Of Psycannons(4)/PointLevel = Max Psycannon Pwnage.
16(4)/2000 = .032 Psycannon Factorial.
You need atleast a .05 Psycannon Factorial to be a competitive GK player, so please re-do your list to have more psycannons.
That's a joke, right?
Look at the GK lists from adepticon this year, most of them that are good are over 0.04, and at or above .05
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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2012/05/02 21:27:04
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Any thoughts on the revised version ?
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2012/05/03 00:59:24
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Take out the Purgation squads and the ven dread, and give the list 3 RifleDreds with psy ammo and you got a pretty mean list.
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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2012/05/03 01:31:11
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Ok so with some corrections I think this list is fairly nasty... Check it out..
Pts=1999
HQ
Crow 150
TROOPS
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
Purifier Squad 209
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Psybolt Ammo
Rhino
HEAVY
Psyfleman Dread 135
Psyfleman Dread 135
Psyfleman Dread 135
ELITE
Ven Psyfleman Dread 190
This is list is DIIIIRRRTTYYYYY! I love it.... Please let me know what you think....
Shout out to Smitty for all the help! Cheers!
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2012/05/03 01:36:15
Subject: Re:I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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why the psybolts on all of the squads? As far as I know psybolts don't affect psycannons.... and if you are spending 20pts for 3 stormbolters in the squad, that'd be kind of a waste....
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2012/05/03 01:55:26
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Wow you are so right..... NEWB!!!! <---- GK's are my new newest investment so I apologize about that.
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2012/05/03 01:56:17
Subject: Re:I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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kakashir0x wrote:why the psybolts on all of the squads? As far as I know psybolts don't affect psycannons.... and if you are spending 20pts for 3 stormbolters in the squad, that'd be kind of a waste....
this, and a guy named mercer runs the exact same list you just posted and has alot of batreps
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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2012/05/03 02:05:21
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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So thank you again Smitty and Kaka I appreciate the excellent advice even if it is pointing out little things like the psybolt ammo. So after taking off the 120pts for the psybolt ammo I am left with this... I didn't know what else i could get for 120pts that would really beef up the list... so I added Coteaz.
Thoughts?
Pts=1984
HQ
Crow 150
Inquisitor Coteaz 100
TROOPS
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
Purifier Squad 189
Knight of the Flame - DaemonhammerGK
GK- 2 Psycannons
GK- 2 Force Halberd
Rhino
HEAVY
Psyfleman Dread 135
Psyfleman Dread 135
Psyfleman Dread 135
ELITE
Ven Psyfleman Dread 195
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2012/05/03 18:15:52
Subject: Re:I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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Instead of Coteaz, i would suggest getting a strike squad in there to mess with any deepstriking stuff.
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2012/05/03 18:36:08
Subject: I need help with my 2k GK Tourney List
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Hmm I'll toy with the list when I get off work. Thanks for the advice.
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