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Hey, this has come up a few times in the last week on the boards here. Some people say that since saga of the hunter requires power armour that you may wear runic armour and still take the saga.
I personally don't buy it but I want to hear some opinions on it.

The runic armour is an upgrade that give you a different stat line and the model is considered to be wearing runic armour. While the entry does call it a type of power armour in the first paragraph, which I feel is all fluff, it does go on to say in the second paragraph what the game mechanics of the armour are and describes it as runic armour. Since the army list section just deals with the wargear/game mechanics and not the fluff would it not be clear that a model wearing runic armour is not wearing power armour and as such has no access to the saga of the hunter.

Fluff wise it is power armour with runes written over it (which is confirmed if you look at the pictures). Rules-wise, it is Runic Armour, not Power Armour.

I wouldn't even question it in any thing but a tournament, where yeah, I wouldn't allow it unless a TO told me I had to.

Is the rule worded such that it is specifcally power armour (and no variants) that is supposed to be able to use the mark, or is it just to prevent it being used on Terminator and artificier armour?

 Flinty wrote:
Is the rule worded such that it is specifcally power armour (and no variants) that is supposed to be able to use the mark, or is it just to prevent it being used on Terminator and artificier armour?

The relevant part of the rule says that it "may only be taken by a model in power armor..." and Runic armour is essentially the Space Wolves version of artificier armour.

Here's the problem in the codex entry it does describe runic armour as power armour, and no where does it ever say that runic armour isnt power armour.

Yes the first paragraph is usually fluff, but it does say runic armour is more ornate power armour.

So i'd say yes saga of the hunter works with runic armour, if it wasnt meant to they'd have changed it in the FaQ, it says no bikes and no terminator it does not say no runic armour.

Power Armor is a specific piece of wargear. If something says you have to wear Power Armor then they are specifically talking about the wargear called Power Armor. Not something that fluffwise is pimped out power armor or super ancient power armor with extra snazz.

Yes but the fact is that power armour is a 3+ save, runic armour is not. It's not the same thing, the restriction is placed in the non-fluff section of the book so within context would that not show it to be different?

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Yes but the fact is that power armour is a 3+ save, runic armour is not. It's not the same thing, the restriction is placed in the non-fluff section of the book so within context would that not show it to be different?

If Runes were simply an upgrade to a model's wargear that made Power Armor gain an improved save then you could have the Saga on the guy with the upgraded armor.

But since its a different wargear entirely it cannot be done.

In Fluff? Absolutely, there is a solid argument for it being described as 'ancient power armor'.

As for RAW? (aka: are they the same or equivelent wargear?) sadly no; it is not listed in the 'power armor' rules-text block, but instead as a seperate entry in the spacewolves codex.

Given it is the functional equivelent to artificer armor with a small added perk, i'd presume this is intentional.