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This is a sailing ship that can be used for warhammer pirate gaming or the LOTR pirates or Buccaneers game play. You can locate the plans for free here http://www.imprime-recorta-pega.com/descargas/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=99

Continuing with another build, I hope to have it finished by the Holidays. My initial finish date was for Thanksgiving but I do not believe I can accomplish that. This model will be a mixture of cardstock and wood. The decking is almost finished and the rib sections are heavily laminated to almost the same thickness as a wooden model. The hull will be a mixture of wood planking over a cardstock hull. There is some slight fit problems with the ribs but they are easy to overcome. I will treat this build like a wood model from Artesania Latina. Here are the first photos
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very good looking start silver...the planking is very good... and i like how you started with that supportive substructure...

also... i think i am now getting my that slicing tool... i have eyed that particular tool for a long time... now the last straw was drawn^^ seeing you using that prooves the usefulness to me in the fulness!

 
   
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 Viktor von Domm wrote:
very good looking start silver...the planking is very good... and i like how you started with that supportive substructure...

also... i think i am now getting my that slicing tool... i have eyed that particular tool for a long time... now the last straw was drawn^^ seeing you using that prooves the usefulness to me in the fulness!


Thanks Viktor. As mentioned earlier, This will be a paper and wood hybrid. That tool also comes in handy for making doll house flooring and wall planking. It is also a money saver, in that you cam make more slats than paying for each one individually.

Here is the next installment of photos on the build. The model is at a standstill for the moment. Ran into a blank wall in getting more details information. I want to add a few more details but info on the San Salvador seems limited. This model has only four gunports and Galeons of that era had more armaments, to include swivel cannons. The wall attachments for the cannons and gear storage above deck is missing on the plans. I want to add supplies into the upper cabin areas and because of that, I cannot close the upper areas. It will be hard to place those items there after the sides are up. Also missing is the life boat/dinghy storage rack. Enjoy and see you all next posting.
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looking good so far consider me subscribed and interested

   
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DijnsK wrote:
looking good so far consider me subscribed and interested


Check out the link in the beginning of the thread for the free download and follow my lead or start your own thread. It should be an interestng build. The hardest part will be digging up details for the deck.

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More updates on the ship building. This model is a full hull display model but if you leave the bottom off, you can make it into a waterline model and it can be used on the table top for wargaming.
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Some of the details in this project can also be used in other sceneries and dioramas. As for the San Salvador, I am gathering as much deck information that I can, before I start to close it up and have a hard time later to add in the details. I have a gathered a lot of references from other galleons that may be of use for this model. I am also gathering some tips and trick for the making of small details for ship building, which I will post along with the build process. Here are some photo updates of the build. At the moment I am at a standstill while visiting family for Turkey day (Thanksgiving) but I have a few more pics to show.
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Excellent project - nice to see a wooden ship build on Dakka. I have a Constructo Mayflower gathering dust that stil needs to be finished (read as started..) and is a similar construction method.

Presuming that you're making this for a display piece as you have a full hull rather than waterline model. Interesting to see that you're covering the bulkheads prior to planking, that's a great idea. Looking forward to your next updates.

No doubt you've been on model boat building forums, but just in case, I find this one invaluable for advice and motivation... http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/index.php

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Looking good so far.

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very good looking developments here! did you show how you made those barrels by the way in another thread? would be nice if you explained this a bit more...

 
   
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 Ruglud wrote:
Excellent project - nice to see a wooden ship build on Dakka. I have a Constructo Mayflower gathering dust that stil needs to be finished (read as started..) and is a similar construction method.

Presuming that you're making this for a display piece as you have a full hull rather than waterline model. Interesting to see that you're covering the bulkheads prior to planking, that's a great idea. Looking forward to your next updates.

No doubt you've been on model boat building forums, but just in case, I find this one invaluable for advice and motivation... http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/index.php


There will be some other tricks in the building of the hull later on. This will be an extensive project in that it will be full hulled. The plans do give the opportunity to make it into a waterline but there are other methods in placing the model on a recessed base and dropping the ship to the waterline and giving it that sailing on the water effect. I may try that option time considering. If I do not do it with this model, I may try it with another version later on. Thanks for the link, I have various ship model links in my repository. By the way, this model is also featured there as well as a free download too.


 Valhalla130 wrote:
Looking good so far.


Thank you for your words of encouragement, there are more ideas to come from this build.


quote=Viktor von Domm 488652 5000361 4419c2166b061bb2ed65ee359293aa3a.jpg]very good looking developments here! did you show how you made those barrels by the way in another thread? would be nice if you explained this a bit more...



Right now, I am accumulating a bunch of tricks and jigs and one of them will cover the making of the barrels, the cannons and dead-eyes. I plan on constructing a mini lathe with the dremel which will come in handy for turning the dowels, both paper and wood. Stick around and there will be more to com, God willing and the creek don't rise.

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I plan on constructing a mini lathe with the dremel which will come in handy for turning the dowels, both paper and wood. Stick around and there will be more to come


mini lathe? that i want to see... be as descriptive as you can get!

 
   
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Looking good! I need to get one of those planking tools. My trench bases for Warmachine look so un-uniform dong it by hand, plus I'd love to get some ships like this built.

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 Platuan4th wrote:
Looking good! I need to get one of those planking tools. My trench bases for Warmachine look so un-uniform dong it by hand, plus I'd love to get some ships like this built.


That plank tool does come in handy, especially for doll houses wooden floors and siding. For trenches, it comes in handy for wall retentions. I bought mine from micromark.com


 Viktor von Domm wrote:

mini lathe? that i want to see... be as descriptive as you can get!


I will start the jig building soon but I am behind due to the holidays. Family are visiting and got to take care of them first.

Back with some update photos. It will be slow for a while, until the holidays are done. I was trying to finish by Christmas, but because of the details, it is going to be done next year. Before I start the planking, I have to fix some of the rib problems, which thankfully are minimal. I am getting my parts ready to make some jigs and things at the same time. Here are the photos and enjoy. See you all next posting
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I will start the jig building soon but I am behind due to the holidays. Family are visiting and got to take care of them first.


that is of course understood happy belated thanksgiving

and the hull is looking very good i have to say by the way... the upper decks details look very promising!

 
   
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Thanks for the holiday greetings Viktor. (By the way, my grandson's name is Victor) I wish the best for the upcoming holiday and new years festivities as well.

Here is an update on the build. The individual cutting and the staining of the plankings is tedious and slowing the process. enjoy and see you all next posting.
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How are you going to keep the hull planking in shape while the glue dries? Will you use a bending tool, soak the strips in water or just clamp?

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 Ruglud wrote:
How are you going to keep the hull planking in shape while the glue dries? Will you use a bending tool, soak the strips in water or just clamp?


The reason for the second skin, is to have the surface for the glue to adhere to it. This saves on the planking clamps, which I may use in some instances. I like to steam the planking, which makes it easier to bend. I also have a bending tool, which looks like a plier and only marks the inside. At the moment, it is somewhere in my tools mixed in with a bunch of jewelry pliers. I will be back with more updates soon. Thanks for looking in.

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Ahh, right. I have one of those, still in thepacking even though I bought it about 5-6 years ago...

In case anyone is wondering what we're talking about, it's this

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It's fascinating watching this come together.

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Thanks for the comments. As for that crimper, it looks real nice. The one I have, is an early version which I will post later on in the build thread.

Here is the next installment on the build. The wood and paper medium seems to complement each other and makes for a good mix. As of the moment, it is still slow going but I am pleased with the results. Enjoy and see you all next posting.
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This build is turning out very interesting in the mixed media. Since I am making this a hybrid, I am not restricted to just paper in the construction. here are some more updates on the making of the pumps. There is one pick of how I bend some of the wood railings, while I am waiting for the glue to set on the pumps. Enjoy and see you all next posting.
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Your methods are ingenious - the pump handles for example, so much detail on such a tiny scale...

The overall build is really coming together...

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 Ruglud wrote:
Your methods are ingenious - the pump handles for example, so much detail on such a tiny scale...

The overall build is really coming together...


Thanks for the vote of confidence Ruglud, There will be more details to come and I still need to make the mini lathes and jigs for them. I will post those process later on.

I am back with more updates on the build. The references did not show how many bilge pumps on the decks, so I went to four as noted from other Galeons. As seen on the photos, you can see the outlines of the ribs if I were to use paper planking strips. With the use of wood planking, the ribs will not show through. The windows are made by drilling the upper round arch and cutting straight down to get that window with the arch effect. Later on, there will be a trim and slats added, but I I am still working out the details for that effect. The planking is coming out great for now. I have not done the bottom hard part. That is where the fit starts to get hard, but since I made the planks thin and in scale, it will work out. I done earlier wood models and the planking was thicker. It made it hard to bend into shape, especially when the curves and bends fought against each other. The thin planking helps to overcome this fit problem. So here are the photos, enjoy and see you all next posting.
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More updates on the build. It is going slow, due to the planking process. I have to wait for the glue to set before I move on to the next plankings. I am doing about 5 planking rows at a time. Here you can see the special pliers that I use to bend the planks without having to soak or steam them.
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very good looking progress silver...!
by the way... gotta ask... what scale is this ship? looks more like 15mm to me than standard tabletop scale, am i right?

 
   
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 Viktor von Domm wrote:
very good looking progress silver...!
by the way... gotta ask... what scale is this ship? looks more like 15mm to me than standard tabletop scale, am i right?


The original plans are for about a 1/90 scale. I upscale it to about 1/48 scale (maybe slightly smaller). The human buccaneer figs from epic warhammer should be about the right size.

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oh... i think this will then look very good together... some crew members will sell this model so very much... it is already looking very lifelike

 
   
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 Viktor von Domm wrote:
oh... i think this will then look very good together... some crew members will sell this model so very much... it is already looking very lifelike


I will probably use a mixed crew and the Catachans will probably be the main crew members. Their physiques have that nautical sailor look.



The planking is almost done and soon I can get to my favorite part, the detailing. I may have to do the keel a bit different than the usual method but that will be nxt as soon as I finish the other side of the hull. This has to be done first, so that I can clamp the keel on a base and start on the deck details. Enjoy and see you all next posting.
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that planked look is really good looking... i like this model more and more each time i see it... how did you get to that seperate plank look? you started with full length planks? now it looks really hand crafted... trule awesome!

 
   
 
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