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2015/03/10 03:16:30
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fixture of Dakka
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JohnHwangDD wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:If so I vote for a mysterious hood of mystery and a #$%^-ton of female heads, maybe with short bobs.
The bob cuts are horrible, don't do that.
Wimples and/or hoods would be great. Or shorn heads.
Yes bob cuts for not sisters!
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2015/03/10 03:19:13
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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JohnHwangDD wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote:If so I vote for a mysterious hood of mystery and a #$%^-ton of female heads, maybe with short bobs.
The bob cuts are horrible, don't do that.
Wimples and/or hoods would be great. Or shorn heads.
Or both, heads are small.
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2015/03/10 05:10:36
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Except the bob cuts are the worst part of the GW sisters - of all of the elements, it's the worst thing to ape.
DF doesn't even need to copy.
Just shaking my head here.
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2015/03/10 05:15:57
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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They're also rather distinctive, and yet not copyrightable. So a good thing to help sell kits, regardless of one person's aesthetic taste. Besides, if one person likes them, you and they cancel one another out just like that.
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2015/03/10 07:34:37
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fixture of Dakka
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JohnHwangDD wrote:Except the bob cuts are the worst part of the GW sisters - of all of the elements, it's the worst thing to ape.
DF doesn't even need to copy.
Just shaking my head here.
Opinions they differ!
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2015/03/10 23:11:13
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Actually, from a Militaristic Point of View (PoV), bob cuts means ease f helmet use for female units wearing power armor helmets, or any helmet, or they would need to tuck and pin their hair for helmet use as hair would stop a good seal from taking place, and the helmets and masks even for the GW SoB's took that into account. May look ugly, but it has practicality in mind.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2015/03/10 23:18:45
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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Statuesques' heads have pretty nice hairdos. A few bobs in the lot might not be too bad.
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2015/03/10 23:52:19
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sisters can have buzz cuts and shaved heads just like any trooper.
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2015/03/11 02:13:02
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fixture of Dakka
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But they are not any trooper they are the militant arm of the Eccliasary, they have also propaganda function to fulfill. And Bob-cuts give that stoic look.
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2015/03/11 02:44:36
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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SoB have to use bleach or a severe dye as they seem to go Black hair or white hair. I would think red, the Imperiums' favorite color would also be acceptable.
Eisenkern females would likely just go brown/black/chestnut/blonde/normal redhead/strawberry blonde. Automatically Appended Next Post: Shadowkesh remind me of a tri-blend,,,,,,,Vampires+Dark Eldar+Nids
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2015/03/11 13:06:33
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Redheads are best heads. Though in 40k's fluff I suppose that would say to the Grey Knights "hey, we're full of blood...you know...in case there's demons around" so I can see why they'd go with neutral tones.
I'm ambivalent on the idea of female val'kir heads. I mean, sure as an accessory option I guess they wouldn't be bad to pad out a hypothetical sprue, but that armor seems so bulky and with the masks and helmets who knows what's underneath anyway? I realize that makes the head more important to establish that it's a woman, but with after-market options I'm not sure it wouldn't be more betterer for Mark to partner with someone else for those random bits so he can focus on the big deliverables (Shadokesh, Hover StuG, etc.). It'd be nice if he could get the parts more tailored to the models themselves though rather than slapping in something intended for Guard/Sisters and hoping it looks ok. Certainly a place for small resin/metal bits to add character/flavor to the models; not everything needs to be in HIPS especially if it's kind of a "niche-within-a-niche" (wherein market research would clearly be otiose-within-otiose).
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2015/03/11 16:47:04
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Krinsath wrote:Redheads are best heads. Though in 40k's fluff I suppose that would say to the Grey Knights "hey, we're full of blood...you know...in case there's demons around" so I can see why they'd go with neutral tones.
I'm ambivalent on the idea of female val'kir heads. I mean, sure as an accessory option I guess they wouldn't be bad to pad out a hypothetical sprue, but that armor seems so bulky and with the masks and helmets who knows what's underneath anyway? I realize that makes the head more important to establish that it's a woman, but with after-market options I'm not sure it wouldn't be more better for Mark to partner with someone else for those random bits so he can focus on the big deliverables (Shadokesh, Hover StuG, etc.). It'd be nice if he could get the parts more tailored to the models themselves though rather than slapping in something intended for Guard/Sisters and hoping it looks ok. Certainly a place for small resin/metal bits to add character/flavor to the models; not everything needs to be in HIPS especially if it's kind of a "niche-within-a-niche" (wherein market research would clearly be otiose-within-otiose).
Yeah, I just was making clear, the women serving in the military with me were either cutting their hair to the page boy, pixie or whatever regs allowed, or pinning it up so their hats and helmets would be able to be more effective, as well as the way Gas masks seal. Totally bald for either gender was consider too elaborate a hair style. it had to be between 1/16th of an inch to 3 inches for men. Women had more leeway. Some kept their hair about shoulder length or just shortened it more. Practicality, which is what I see with Marks Lady troopers. I will make me some mix, a box of the Panzerjaegers and more stormies for a mixture, as they got the helms/masks the older Fallschirmjaegers were to have had.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2015/03/11 16:54:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Morphing Obliterator
The Frigid North of Minneapolis
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Just my 2 cents, but I love the SoB bob cuts. It just happens to be a style I'm rather fond of. I often encourage my wife to sport such a cut, as it looks rather nice on her (though her hair is dirty blond, not black). She usually likes it longer though :(
I think that GW is also trying to evoke the page-boy/squire kinda of look, or maybe something monastic-esque, by their use of this style with the SoB. Though also let's consider that SoB have only had two releases, the original and then just a little bit of new stuff with the Witchhunters codex. If they ever get a new release, it's an opportunity to change, add to, or redesign the line.
-C6
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2015/03/11 20:04:51
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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The should have chelsea haircuts.
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2015/03/11 20:28:09
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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And Doc Martens - amirite?
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2015/03/12 03:44:58
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
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2015/03/12 05:47:14
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
Each Eisenkern is a model unto itself. I am saving the seated troopers for other projects as I have several units of stormies made already.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2015/03/12 17:58:44
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I can get a plaststruct I beam and re-enact this photo
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2015/03/12 18:31:27
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
Atlanta,Ga
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Yes, I beleive Mark is insane with the level of detail he put into these kits. I have finally finished my 3 Apcs all in a different setup. The heavy troops are some of the best plastic kits I have seen. Mark I wish further success can't wait for the stug to come I need 3 of them also.
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2015/03/12 18:36:51
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Just finished my Panzer Fraus (or whatever they're called) fun kit, needs more diversity in the arms though.
Lots of work matching pairs of arms to get the same 'holding gun across the body pose' 10 times. Would have likes some way to do a slung rifle, pointing, waving, aiming a pistol etc.
Now sure why it came with 3 sets of extra legs though. I think arms are so much more useful.
Also looked at the APC and... Mark are you insane? Are you completely nuts?
I mean 2 sprues for the seated soldiers, each model in 6 or 7 parts including separate hands?
For a unit that will be inside the tank?
That is beyond...
I mean wow.
Not sure if I'm impressed with your dedication or horrified.
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
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2015/03/12 20:05:13
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Should I ever get the Hanomag kit, I want to turn the seated Eisenkern into a speederbike squad. Should be pretty easy, give or take the speederbikes themselves.
(I'll probably use the mule bodies from the accessories kit along with some spare weapon bits, plasticard and gunpla wings and fins. I'll just get around to it sometime next decade.)
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2015/03/13 03:06:02
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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MrMoustaffa wrote:
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
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2015/03/13 03:12:12
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Dakka Veteran
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: MrMoustaffa wrote:
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
Consider it confirmed The arm size is the same, the only arm that may be a tad too long is the 45 degree angle arm if you rotate it down to the side. With a small bit of trimming it will work as well. The arm selection for the ladies is the same as the male. Hip fired, shoulder fired and at the ready. The Stormtrooper accessory set was created to allow the modeler to make poses out side of those three selections.
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2015/03/13 03:29:44
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Otiose in a Niche
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NoseGoblin wrote:
Consider it confirmed The arm size is the same, the only arm that may be a tad too long is the 45 degree angle arm if you rotate it down to the side. With a small bit of trimming it will work as well. The arm selection for the ladies is the same as the male. Hip fired, shoulder fired and at the ready. The Stormtrooper accessory set was created to allow the modeler to make poses out side of those three selections.
Looking forward to it!
Mysterious hoods please!
And could let me know why the set has 3 extra sets of legs?
It just seems odd...
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2015/03/13 03:40:06
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Dakka Veteran
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Two of the leg sets that are optional are kneeling, this pose is often an issue if players use true LOS. The males have these as extra/optional as well.
The other was so that you could choose a more static or more dynamic pose for the force as two of them are simply standing with weight transferred to the rear leg. This pose works well for the 'at the ready' arm but not so well for the other arm poses.
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2015/03/13 04:49:17
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Well, Mark I have to say I have enjoyed all the kits so far, for the nose end of the 1st Hanomag, I went armored nose with the shield and adler crest
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The model went together nicely so far and I have hit the stage to pain the interior, and I think I will use an old interior buff coloration to go over the white primer here
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the "Buff" is on the left, Reaper calls it tusk ivory
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2015/03/13 18:47:18
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: MrMoustaffa wrote:
The accesory sprue that came with the stormtroopers works really well with the black widows kit. If you get more, use the upgrade kit with them. One of those boxes would give you enough variety to outfit a platoon of the girls with unique poses, gestures, and kits.
Has anyone tried this yet? I did think of it but was worried the male arms would make the women look like gorillas rather than guerillas.
But I still think there was real estate on the female sprue that could have been better used on arms.
It's not a huge thing, IMHO it moves the kit from 5 stars to 4, but I wanted to throw that out.
I have on a few. Didn't do anything nuts, but a lot of the kit fits on them and the extra arms and hands look just fine on them. You really can't tell a difference and it took me a while to find which ones I did it to. As far as I can tell, the arms are the exact same length
I do agree that the extra legs was kind of weird, It took me a good while to figure out that I hadn't put something together wrong after I found them on the sprue.
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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2015/03/13 20:52:42
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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2015/03/13 23:16:09
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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Hell yeah!
In fact...
Triple Dog Dare you!!!
Urban Dictionary wrote:
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Note: The infamous Triple-dog-dare is infamous for the sole reason that you cannot back down from it--without exception! An issued triple-dog-dare has no counteraction and must be implemented and/or carried out.
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2015/03/14 01:16:29
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (New Shadokesh! - page 155)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I'll put it on the list, after turning Karl Franz on Death Claw into a dreadknight, but before turning the Nephilim into an Avenger fighter.
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