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Reading though the current (latest) GW price moan thread, I keep reading similar points made - "I'm nearly at a point where I'll quit the hobby", "I exclusively buy models from ebay so GW don't get a penny/cent", "I'll only buy new stuff my current 40k army, I won't start any more armies", etc. It amazes me how few people even consider the idea of playing something not made by GW, and I'm intrigued to know why that is.

In the event of multiple reasons please indicate the one major factor (although feel free to post fuller thoughts).

Thank you for your input.

Nothing. I think most GW only folks would be shocked and amazed at how low priced historical gaming can be.

I would like to start playing more Command Decision and Advanced Squad Leader. Also more online games and RPGs. Just not enough time :(

Your poll is terrible. The options are biased, and you don't allow an option to give multiple reasons.


Anyway, for me it's simple: GW is the only company that produces a complete 28mm scifi game with multiple armies, tanks, etc. Other companies either produce a handful of models (usually intended to be used with 40k), or are infantry-only skirmish games that I'm not really interested in. So pretty much it's GW/40k or end up with a bunch of random models and a mess of a house rule system to make everything work properly. IOW, a game that I can only play with a few specific friends, not in random pickup games.

And I know that the "completeness" factor is better for fantasy and historical games, but neither of those genres are very interesting to me.

I would like to try other games, I am very interested in trying Mantic's Warpath, but I am not sure if there are many/any other people nearby who play.

 Peregrine wrote:
Your poll is terrible. The options are biased, and you don't allow an option to give multiple reasons.

You're too kind. I did actually change the wording before I submitted it because I felt the options were too biased, maybe not enough for some tastes? I can't see anything in there that is, anyway. I also wanted people to give the one overriding reason, maybe I'll go back and make that clearer. Thanks for the input, I guess you can ignore the results!

Anyway, for me it's simple: GW is the only company that produces a complete 28mm scifi game with multiple armies, tanks, etc. Other companies either produce a handful of models (usually intended to be used with 40k), or are infantry-only skirmish games that I'm not really interested in. So pretty much it's GW/40k or end up with a bunch of random models and a mess of a house rule system to make everything work properly. IOW, a game that I can only play with a few specific friends, not in random pickup games.

And I know that the "completeness" factor is better for fantasy and historical games, but neither of those genres are very interesting to me.

Good reason, I meant to put scale of game in and forgot that one... I guess I'll edit that too.

Depends on where I am (School or home). Home, I play near exclusively Warmahordes, because that's whats popular. School, GW games are closer at hand, so I play those. i also tend to play less. I'd be interested in playing other non-GW games, but I can find no-one who plays them.

Terrible poll is terrible.

I play other systems but my main reason for playing 40k is I like the fluff and models. Warmahordes models do not interest me and the fluff is uninteresting.

I do collect some PP models along with lots of other companies, but usually because I like the models and collect them as random 'one off' models which can be used as dungeon monsters.

I like GW's models, the 40k universe and I like the quality of indy 40k events. The only other systems with 'organized play' in indy events which are even close to 40k are systems and models which have zero appeal to me, especially since I dislike how PP people run their events as they often do not require painted models.

I have been getting into Kickstarters and hopefully those may spawn new communities... but no reason for me to blindly quit playing 40k.

I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

I play mainly GW, with dabbling into Warmachine and (soon) Infinity. I do this for several reasons:

1. I have a full-time job and family. Time is restricted. I don't have time to learn a new system, find people that are like-minded, and then buy/build/paint new armies.
2. I started wargaming with GW, and I have lots of options to make every game a little different for my opponent.
3. Skirmish rulesets are less appealing to me than larger-scale battles.
4. Finite financial resources. See my first point

Barring buying rules updates and the occasional new model, I have what I need to play games of 40K with the people I enjoy wargaming with. Pretty much end of story.

For me it's the lack of non GW players.

I spend money on other systems but I'll never get a game.

 Glorioski wrote:
I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

How exactly does that work? You like a wargame, but you don't like wargaming?

Lack of time to bother investing into another "universe".

 Peregrine wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:
I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

How exactly does that work? You like a wargame, but you don't like wargaming?

I was just thinking the same thing. And in response to the question I play 40k, fantasy and warmahordes in equal amounts, but it is harder to play warmahordes at home since my brother seems to think it is the very devil for some reason. I have to find a way to drug him and make him sit there and play a game, I know he'll like it he is just too close minded to even try.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:
I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

How exactly does that work? You like a wargame, but you don't like wargaming?

The same way liking Jennifer Lopez's ass but not her music works.

Its Two things.
1: Starting a New system, For me, Can be annoying and time consuming.
2: Going ot a new scene is a Tad scary.

 Glorioski wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:
I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

How exactly does that work? You like a wargame, but you don't like wargaming?

The same way liking Jennifer Lopez's ass but not her music works.

So you enjoy 40k in the modelling/painting and what not sense, but don't engage with the game play side of it. That makes sense then.

motyak wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Glorioski wrote:
I like 40k. Not too keen on wargaming.

How exactly does that work? You like a wargame, but you don't like wargaming?

The same way liking Jennifer Lopez's ass but not her music works.

So you buy it for the models but don't play? Makes sense then.

Right because that's unheard of.

Nonono I wasn't ribbing you. I mean that actually makes sense, as in it is perfectly legitimate. Not everyone on the internet is out to be a dick, sorry if you took it that way.

I understand why people would buy the models an enjoy painting them, I mean, they do have cool models

you can't argue that.

Fair enough. It seemed like sarcasm.

I'm going to go back and edit it so others don't think so

I didn't see the right option for me up there: I voted for #2 as it fits best, but I'll explain a bit more.

Most people around here (Perth, Australia) were playing GW games but getting increasingly upset about the price. The veterans/club members ordered from Maelstrom/Wayland. After the Embargo to Australia, there was a huge outcry and backlash and for a while many people picked up different games.
However, there wasn't any concerted effort to choose a particular game. And so we went from a club where nearly everyone played 40k, to one where we had a handful of people playing each of Malifaux, Infinity, Dystopian Wars, Dust Warfare, Warmahordes... People literally just went to the games which they personally liked the models and rules of the most.
None of the games attained the necessary critical mass to become mainstream. And so now everyone has gone back to playing mostly GW stuff - we'll bring in our favoured game as well as our standard 40k army whenever we game, but there simply arent enough people around for each system to get regular games.

Collecting models from other systems? Nothing, I already do it. I've got a mean amount of Haqqislam right now.

Playing other systems? Opponents. Right now I have a friend and my brother starting up Infinity, but neither are at the playing stage yet. Asking people at my FLGS if people play Infinity yielded the answer of 'it's on and off, same with Warmachine'. Sells like hotcakes, but not many people play it at the store.

That's always been my experience with non-GW games. Fantastic alternative games with great miniatures that I can never find anyone to have a game against. I'll keep at it with Infinity though.

One of the draws of GW has always been the fact that wherever you go, you can find players.

 Peregrine wrote:
Your poll is terrible. The options are biased, and you don't allow an option to give multiple reasons.


Anyway, for me it's simple: GW is the only company that produces a complete 28mm scifi game with multiple armies, tanks, etc. Other companies either produce a handful of models (usually intended to be used with 40k), or are infantry-only skirmish games that I'm not really interested in. So pretty much it's GW/40k or end up with a bunch of random models and a mess of a house rule system to make everything work properly. IOW, a game that I can only play with a few specific friends, not in random pickup games.

And I know that the "completeness" factor is better for fantasy and historical games, but neither of those genres are very interesting to me.

My reason for mainly playing 40k (I have starter sets for Hordes and Malifaux I sometimes dig out) is this.

That and I like the models and the background. The lore of Warhammer 40k is top notch.

For me GW have the best balance between their model quality and their utility as gaming pieces and the fluff running through my head as I build and paint an army just capture my attention better than any other. As much as I dislike the prices these days all the other models either look terrible or bore me.

Nothing at all! In fact, I don't play GW games because of my preference to 15mm scale. Now I can put more than a half-dozen vehicles on a 6x4 table and it doesn't looks like a parking lot, and I still get the personality of individual models that you'd see in 28mm.

Voted 3. Have fantasy and 40k armies, and took almost a year off for FoW. Got back into 40k a few months back... and that's all I've been playing since...

My local store has a large 40k group, and a large group of people who won't touch GW (FoW, some other WWII thing, historical gaming...), so I'm lucky with options.

GW products do look amazing on the table...

There wasn't really an option that fit me very well.

I have a large FoW army and sort of prefer that to 40K, but you can't argue with the popularity of 40K, I started because the models are cool and I might actually end up having a few games.

 Peregrine wrote:
Other companies either produce a handful of models (usually intended to be used with 40k), or are infantry-only skirmish games that I'm not really interested in. So pretty much it's GW/40k or end up with a bunch of random models and a mess of a house rule system to make everything work properly.

While it's a skirmish game, Infinity has not only 6 complete ranges of models that are simply getting minor additions now, they have a 7th line that is being built up, and a line of mercanary allies. It also has a rule system better written than Games Workshop could ever hope to acheive, and the best balance any mainstream tabletop game has gotten yet.

But you knew that before lumping it in with 'a bunch of random models and a mess of house rule system', didn't you?

I mean, it's one thing to write off skirmish games because you don't like them, but it's another to just make stuff up about them as a reason.