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HQ
Chaos Sorcerer (Psy Rating 3)
Mark of Slaanesh

Troop Choice 1
Noise Marines x 4
Close Combat Weapon x 4
Sonic Blaster x 4
Noise Champ x 1
Blast Master x 1

Troop Choice 2
Noise Marines x 4
Close Combat Weapon x 4
Sonic Blaster x 4
Noise Champ x 1
Blast Master x 1

Fast Attack 1
Chaos Biker x 6
Chaos Biker Champ x 1
Mark of Slaanesh x 7

Dedicated Transport
Rhino x 1

Tactic: Noise Marines Shoot, Bikers Intercept closing units or rush potent range units, Sorcerer spell slings (buffs, debuffs or kills with fire).

Any comments are appreciated.

Before I go into the rest of it, your list as written is invalid. A Slaanesh Sorcerer does NOT open Noise Marines as troop choices. The only options for you are to swap to a Chaos Lord of Slaanesh, or run Lucius the Eternal.

Only one rhino? I'd recommend getting another to protect the other troop of awesome weaponry. Those are 21 point marines, 31 on the champ and 51 on the blastmaster marine. Take the 35 point tin can to protect them a bit.

Here's my thoughts on how you should run the list.

Swap to a lord, give him the Burning Brand of Skalathrax (115)
Take another Rhino, one per squad of noise marines, give the one the lord is going to be riding with a Blastmaster, (164)
give the other squad a Blastmaster, and give the champion the Doom Siren. (179)
Go with the bikers, but trim it back to 6 (142)

Your bikers can still hunt down whatever they want, and now your noise marines are covered a bit from fire.

muzzified wrote:
HQ

Troop Choice 1
Noise Marines x 4
Close Combat Weapon x 4
Sonic Blaster x 4
Noise Champ x 1
Blast Master x 1


Any comments are appreciated.

Can you really take BOTH close combat weapons and sonic blasters for Noise marines? The codex says buy ccw OR replace boltgun with ccw/buy sonic blaster as far as I can see? This I interpret as you cannot do both.

Am I wrong here?

Can you really take BOTH close combat weapons and sonic blasters for Noise marines? The codex says buy ccw OR replace boltgun with ccw/buy sonic blaster as far as I can see? This I interpret as you cannot do both.
Am I wrong here?

Yes. You are wrong here.
The "or" exists because.... well, would you want to take a CCW and also replace your boltgun with another CCW?
It isn't said right there that "one of the following".

I've updated my list to make it valid and to incorporate some of the the comments.

HQ
Chaos Lord
Chaos Bike
Mark of Slaanesh
Power Fist

Troop Choice 1
Noise Marines x4
Close Combat Weapons x4
Sonic Blasters x4
Noise Marine Champion x1
Blast Master x1
Dedicated Transport

Troop Choice 2
Noise Marines x4
Close Combat Weapons x4
Sonic Blasters x4
Noise Marine Champion x1
Blast Master x1

Chaos Bikers x5
Chaos Biker Champion x1

My intent was to unlock the Noise Marines utilizing the Chaos Lord with the Mark of Slaanesh. In such a low point cost army these bad boyz get a decient amount of shots, have decent range, cause pinnning and ignore cover.

My Chaos Lord has a bike so that I can join my bike squad making them 7 Strong. The Power Fist will hopefull win me a challenge or two.

My point useage is 598 of 600.

Range/High Mobility/Power/600pts

I'm not a big fan of initiative 1, but I see what you're going for.

You don't have alot of tank popping capabilities, and the fist is sure good at it.

But for the price of the fist, you could give 2 bikers Meltaguns. and have 5 pts to spare.

I selected the PF for two reasons...

1) You hit the nail on the head. Assualting Vehicles was a concern. Which I could get meltas or melta bombs to do.
2) I must make and accept challenges whenever possible according to the codex. I didnt want to get pitted against a high powered enemy carry (6+ Toughness or +2 Armor Save) without being able to take it out.

I could take a lightning claw or something in the other hand to gain and attack and provide me with an alternative weapon to choose from incase a powerfist is over kill. Maybe sacrifice a few sonic blasters. What would be the best way to approach this?

Yeah I agree with Eboncrow here. I think you shouldn't take a power fist for that lord, unless you'll take a lightning claw also. That is because now the mark is not the slightest bit useful to him.

Otherwise, I like that. Which legion are you thinking on starting?

For the Same points as a fist, you can give your lord a lightning claw and meltabombs, and the champion biker can have meltabombs also.

You lose one attack, but now you're rerolling wounds and you have 2 meltabombs to pop tanks.

 LlamaAgility wrote:

Can you really take BOTH close combat weapons and sonic blasters for Noise marines? The codex says buy ccw OR replace boltgun with ccw/buy sonic blaster as far as I can see? This I interpret as you cannot do both.
Am I wrong here?

Yes. You are wrong here.
The "or" exists because.... well, would you want to take a CCW and also replace your boltgun with another CCW?
It isn't said right there that "one of the following".

Hi,

I have been re-reading the codex and have it here now. I have also been studying some other threads. It clearly says you can EITHER
a) buy ccw
OR
ONE OF THE FOLLOWING:
b1) replace bolter with ccw
b2) replace bolter with sonic blaster

This means it's not possible to buy both ccw AND sonic blaster. It also means it's not possible to do both b1 and b2 and get ccw + buy sonic blaster. The three possible combinations on noise marines are therefore (depending on points):
1 bolter, bp, ccw
2 bp, ccw
3, bp, sonic blaster

It would be great if you could take both upgrades though, would probably be one of the more versatile units in the game, good at both shooting and cc.. It is further discussed here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/501584.page
And in the rules forum: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/502398.page

Your reasoning above (" would you want to take a CCW and also replace your boltgun with another CCW?") would only apply if it said AND instead of OR. Now it says OR and ONE OF THE FOLLOWING.

Thus, the list in this thread is unfortunately illegal.

Looks fun otherwise! Bikes look good at this points level.. Agree about the high I on the lord though, give him a power weapon or LC instead? That would afford you to get two flamers for the bikers. Two flamers could be quite useful against most troops holding an objective, especially when mounted on something that moves as fast as bikes.

Good luck!

Well, I read the codex too, when I made my interpretation. I thought, as it didn't say this, it'd be legal:

May take one of the following:
a
b1
b2

* Any Noise Marine may take a close combat weapon 1 pt/model OR replace his boltgun with one of the following:

RAW, you cannot do both. it's one... OR... the other.

Doesn't count for gak anymore. I already agreed to being wrong.


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Now let's get back on topic, shall we?

I don't mind powerfists on a lord with a bike. I've used one recently and really been pleased with the results. I would drop one biker to allow two others to take meltaguns.

Anyone tried dual flamers on the bikers? Seems nice and cheap.