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Oh, dam...

I dont think I've ever seen such a cool looking, half finished unit!!
Your reds are truely fantastic!

DOGGIE!

Er.... I mean... Nice Stern Vets nerdy haha ;p

 nerdfest09 wrote:
I don't get it though guys? you all seem to really like my reds? and I won't argue I think they look good on the mini's but it's not a hard process. take the Sternguard above: Dragon red primer, a wash of Agrax and ONE highlight pass with Bloody red paint and that's it! :-) so really ANYONE can do that lol!

I then add orange/browns until i'm happy so maybe it's my pics that make them look so good? I dunno, I just don't want you to think i'm doing something magical when I am doing nothing really that i've seen you all do on your blogs! I'm certainly no Pyriel or Jah ......or RAFF........or Sigur........or ........ :-) maybe the next Nerdcademy will focus on Reds?...

thanks for the shout-out, mate...

i'm a big RAFF fan, too!!!
love that guy's Termies...

while there may not be anything super technically difficult going on with your reds, they are painted well...
the color is very saturated and intense, and you photograph it nicely...
this makes for an eye-catching set of minis...
i think that is why everyone praises your red...
beats the alternative of people telling you you're rubbish, and should take a long walk off a short pier...

cheers
jah

Thanks guys! much appreciated and Jah I can see where you're coming from dude I have a real process for my reds and now it comes easy and in steps so I don't think I'm doing anything different from everyone else

but if you DO indeed like my reds I finished them on the Sternguard now. went from pure orange to orange and brown then pure brown and then washed with Baal red............... then realised they looked different........ then realised my others used Carroburg Crimson! then remedied it by washing them again with Crimson the Baal made the reds much more bright and orangey while really bringing the final highlights to the fore! I like the Crimson as it's a subtle addition






There ya go! need to do the greens and the golds and then it's done time!

Is that hat draining all of your dogs life?

Also cool stern guards.

Nice highlights too.

O.k just an expression of interest. but if it's fair dinkum that the Blood Angels are getting a fancy new Tac squad i'm going to need to get them to replace the ones I have already! :-) so that leaves me with 20 Tac marines fully BA'd up for sale! what should I ask for them and would anyone realistically be interested? i'm actually liking the extra details on the Sternguard and am now happy to tackle that kind of addition on my troops! not to mention IF we get anyhting fancy in Terminator armour I've got 15 of the little suckers I won't need as well LOL! why do they do this to us?......

Man, wait til the HH books get to BA, you'll have to sell the Subi.

Instead of ditching the 20 that you have, why not mix them in with the new kits to make 40+? You've already done the work, and they don't have squad markings iirc. You could mix in 5 from the new kit added to 5 existing dudes, get a new squad! 2 rhinos and 2 boxes of BA tac marines seems pretty mild. Could do the same with termis, even if you had to pop some arms off and mix them up some. Just sayin', no reason to take 2 steps back to go forward, just march on.

The bases arnt done ether so it shouldn't be a big deal rippen em off.

they are selling the 30mm bases in baggies too IIRC.

As Whalemusic said, it's a bit of a backwards step getting rid of tactical marines. Just keep ahold of them, and you can always mix them in etc.

And slightly OT: what's the deal with 30mm bases now? A BA thing, or are all tact. marines getting a base size bump?

 Zambro wrote:
As Whalemusic said, it's a bit of a backwards step getting rid of tactical marines. Just keep ahold of them, and you can always mix them in etc.

And slightly OT: what's the deal with 30mm bases now? A BA thing, or are all tact. marines getting a base size bump?

From what i heard its to make space marines more "Epic"

Yeah... I heard the same Des. I am unsure if I like this as I am a terrain freak. It lets me base more but, at the same time that uses more of my SWM basing stuff and little bits I create and cast.

I also don't know if SWM has 32mm bases or whatever.

As for what Whalemusic said, he's right on the money. Loving that red! It's so muted (don't take offense, I mean that it is humble to the eyes,) and smooth.

I need some input! for Green2015 i'm doing Orks and simply loving the ideas and theme i'm conjuring! BUT I'm not sure yet on a few things, if I ever actually play them I'll go unbound and just have fun with whatever I have at hand using Dreads, Storm Boyz etc. I know Boyz are usually armed with a slugga & choppa? so in my mob of boyz I just have them all with a pistol and cc weapon with a nob with a klaw? does that sound right? and what is the size of a squad of boyz? I'd like to run them in transports (Trukks?) I also like the little buggy things with half traks on them so any input on what I could/should have for them welcome!

remember my theme though! Bloodaxe army, military Orks

i'm back on overnight shift tonight so we can churn through some plans or lists! lets see what you think!

I've not played orks since 5th, so I'm not helpful. Ya need some Dakkajets though, they are good.

I am afraid I don't absolutely know the rules, but if I have this right...

Boys mob = 10-30
Trukks transport = 12
Battlewagons transport = 20

I have no idea if you can split a mob into more than one transport?

If you are going for Bloodaxes, I used to love the mythology of them "borrowing" Imperial kit, so run chimera's or Rhinos, but there used to be rules for Orks having them as transports and having increased capacity because orks just hang on for grim death anyways. Seriously doubt this still applies, can't have anything that cool in the game any more.

The only thing I do kinda know, if you had like 5 mobs of 10 boys in trukks and they all get out and then they can mob up and be INVINCIBLE!!! Probably got that wrong too hey?

Get yourself 50 lootas and be INVINCIBLE and funny.

Pretty please could I do some stuff for you, just so I can see you paint it, no charge! PLEASE.

The marines are looking great Nerdy, its good to see the dogs getting into the Christmas spirit as well.

Orks cant say I've ever played with or against them. I do have the latest codex though so will have a read when I get a chance to see what goes where and how many boys fit in a Squiggoth

I'm ashamed that I haven't opened my 7th edition codex so I can't say for sure what the current ork vibe is.

In general...

- Dakkajets are a must w/ 3x supashootas
- KFFs, either carried by Big Meks or a Morkanaught (I think that's the right one) are very, very handy.
- Meganobz can be a really nasty surprise. I think the combi-skorcha is the best load-out. They should be mounted in either a trukk or a battle wagon so they can get where you need them quickly.


Anything beyond that is up to your style of play. I think mobs of infantry are still good. Battle-wagon or truck rush lists should still work. The ork supplement that includes the rules for Ghazzy has some nice formations in it... one of which is a walker-based list you might be interested in (I am)... though I don't really know if a walker-based list is viable (it really wasn't in 6th).

I'm planning on a gretchin-based list with kans, grot tanks and big meks & their retinues (burnas, etc) in squiggoths. Should be a horrible piece of drek as a fighting force but look fantastic on the tabletop!

Thanks for the help guys!

So a couple of DakkaJets I can do!

2x Jets
2x Trukks = 24 Boyz transport
1x Battlewagon = 20 boyz/megaNobz ?

GFX! you still willing to help me out even though I am a slack, slack procrastinating friend!? still working on your Libby & Termies at a snail pace (if you hadn't noticed!) but i'd love to see what we can work out for them!

Cam if you want to do something for me to paint mate i'd be happy to throw some brushes around for you! i'd even send it back to you if it's a model you want for your own force?

Gits I think the image of a mob of boyz id still 'Ork' so while I may not go full mass ork and run 100 of the buggers I'd like to just basically throw them forward in truks supported by bikes and a kan or dread or 2....or 7

You know... a lot depends on what the gaming style is around your way. Do they play the maelstrom missions (using the cards)? If so, then things like bikes or storm boys would be very useful for their mobility.

In 40k you can't split a squad into multiple transports, nor can you put multiple squads in a single transport without specific exception (like the Storm Raven gun ship).

My advice when building an army with fast troop elements (like your trucks) is to try and keep everything either fast as well (battle wagons, bikes, buggies, dakka jets) or make sure the slower elements have good range so they can support the fast elements. Problem with ork walkers as a supporting element is that they're both slow and short ranged. Think about having your whole army in his backfield by turn two (deploy forward, move 12-18" in turn 1, move 6" & disembark in turn 2 then assault.

My play 'group' is myself and 3 mates who game....that's it...... so our style is really purely for fun and comraderie :-) a bit of CoD and them trying to teach me to play 40k! so no real focus.

Do they use the little decks of objective cards or not? That's what I was talking about. The cards favor mobility & flexibility over massive fire-power. Makes you design a different type of army and use different strategies.

Oh no I don't think I have them yet. they're new with this edition aren't they?

Yeah the cards are new to the edition. Me, I'm running Deffskulz all in transports with heavy armor. Going to make the trukks like Tow trucks. Lots of mobility and weird stuff. Dont know if you know, but you have no restriction on how many boyz mobs you can give 'Eavy armor to anymore. 4+ for everyone!!!!

Cool! :-) can you tell me about Lootas? they're the guys with the bigger guns right? equivalent to a SM Dev squad? I want to convert a squad so i'm looking to see what they have for weapons?

Yeah they are like a Dev squad. Their guns fire a random number of shots and just murder things if you get a good roll. They don't get cool diffrent weapons like the Dev squad but the Deffgun stats are something like

The blurb about deffguns

Deffguns are massive, kustom-built gun rigs. When fired, these weapons launch unpredictable barrages of rockets, bullets and blasts that can tear formations of enemy warriors to bloody shreds.
Range 48 Str7 Ap4 Heavy D3.

So they can look like anything really.

Hope that helps I'm off to Disneyland and wont be back for about 12 hours lol.

Lootas are very good if you typically roll well. I don't... so they tend to be wasted points. :(

I loved Lootas when i played orks. Theyre inexpensive and pack a mean punch. Mass fire of autocannons will overwhelm almost anything, and the range give them a huge threat bubble.

Conversion-wise, theres a ton you can do. Just use a basic ork boy, and slap on gunz!

here are some SUPER OLD examples of mine. Heh... they really havent changed much from this





Id recommend a full shooty list, with shootas instead of choppas. In my experience with 6th (and a MUCH lesser extent 7th), shooting is the big thing this game. Assault rules got annoying fast. Like Kommandos unable to assault after they appear on the board. That was really all they were good for! XD

Silly Nerdy, I mean I will send them to you for yourself. Got that Jet to do some work on, I can send it back to you, after converted, plus some other bits, Long as you don't mind I will send them. Be a couple weeks yet mind.

I think you go Kommando, like a whole bunch of them. Going Kommando is very Nerdy, and think Ork delta force, buggies and bikes supporting some trukks. OOOO like that idea actually, forget I ever said anything I am off to do it for myself.

JK But I think you should maybe think of a Kommando force, would be very very cool and fun.

Oh that would be cool Special Forces kinda thing.

I always go Kommando! :-) but yes, that's what I have planned for my force! trukks,boyz,bikes all don delta force style may even give one a chuck norris beard!

Cam it's good man, you keep the Jet mate I wanted you to have it! but I'm happy to paint whatever up you create! :-)

and Shoota's then Boys!? cool i'll get my brain into gear and see what I come up with!

Dinneylaaand!...... DinneyyyLannnnd!