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**RiTides**

Fantastic, cincy! I playtested the X-wing ones with Wehrkind originally, and yeah, they clean up the table a lot

. I am so bad at keeping track of all the separate tokens, so it makes the game a lot cleaner and more enjoyable for me!

Similarly in Armada, even with only a few test games I've noticed I always forget to place / remove the stock command tokens... flipping the cube is much more natural to me

and easier to keep track of.

I'm going to be hard at work on the 40k mysterious objectives tokens over the next few days - I hope to be ready to reveal that set on Monday!

**MasterSlowPoke**

Just saw that you'll be at Nova, awesome stuff. Maybe you could do Kickstarter pickup to save you some shipping costs?

**Henry**

Whilst I can't find in myself enough of a reason to buy into this project, I would like to wish RiTides and the rest of the ModCube crew all the best.

**RiTides**

That's a good idea, MasterSlowPoke - it will just depend on the timing of when the production run of cubes comes in, and if we're able to get all the orders ready in time for the Nova Open (if not, we'll only be taking preorders there, rather than selling, too).

Henry, I really appreciate that, thank you! And I will pass it along, too

. The artist we've been commissioning is certainly getting worked to the bone this month!

**RiTides**

New rolling test results, compared to my beloved Dakka Dice:

See the full update here!

The ModCube seems to fare pretty well so far

. This is only 100 replicates each, and my arm already hurts! I'd like to do a test with 1000 each, and also include a casino die for a "gold standard", if I'm able to later on.

Currently working hard on the Mysterious Objectives set for 40k, and a surprise piece that may be included in every pledge! More to come soon

**Theophony**

RItides first documented case of "Dice Elbow" recorded for posterity. Maybe you can get a government grant to study the effects of dice rolling on the human physique.

In seriousness though, are you checking to see if the face of the cube that has the clicky side come side up more or less? There might be slight bias due to the added weight of the clicky bits, or the solid side, and depending on cube 1 vs cube 2 if the tokens aren't in same spots it could deviate. Might not be too noticeable, but it could be enough to adjust where the 6s have a slightly better chance.

**RiTides**

That's exactly what I'm checking for, Theophony - those results are listed as "1" and "6", and the others are also opposite each other as on a normal die (2 and 5 are opposite, and 3 and 4).

The results are a bit inconclusive (which is good!) since ModCube 1's lowest result is an end face, while ModCube 2's highest result is also an end face. If there is a bias towards the ends, it's not that drastic, and like I said I'll try to do a more thorough study later on. To compare, Chessex dice are often slightly axially biased, and you can see that Chessex 2 may be favoring the 2-5 axis.

I imagine the most bias will come from how people roll these - since they're the same size as casino dice (although not as square, since the ModCubes have slanted edges) the biggest factor in results will likely be people not really shaking them up and just dropping them. There's a reason craps tables are so long and have that crazy indented wall at the end to ensure no one is manipulating their rolls! For this test, I used an X-wing mat laid up against a wall, and bounced the cubes across it and into the wall for each roll.

**cincydooley**

Pretty impressed you did that.

I have to admit i'm not someone that cares that you get a perfect spread on a dice roll, so that look great to me!

**Ghrik**

As a scientist and supporter, to avoid the "dice elbow" I suggest -as you have a working laser cutter- build yourself a dice tower

(...and if it looks nice, perhaps it would be a great addon for the KS)

**RiTides**

I really should have thought of that, Ghrik

Today was a down day (about $45 - actually had a bit of flux as several new backers joined but a few dropped) but those happen in the middle of campaigns and I have to keep my nose to the grindstone making these new sets! We got a nice little boost on Friday when I posted the Armada set so I'm hoping for similar when I post these mysterious objectives I'm working on

Overall I'm just ecstatic with where things have gotten to! I do hope with most of 3 weeks to go we can unlock a few more sets - Imperial Assault will be next in line (which has been one of the most requested), followed by Warmachine / Hordes, and then the longsuffering Firestorm Armada fans

That may be about it really - I would like to see a good list for Deadzone, since that's been mentioned by a number of folks on here... and really a list for any of those would be great! I just picked up Imperial Assault from a friend today to look over the tokens it comes with and see what would be best to include (I know there's been a suggestion in this thread about it, too, but it's gotten rather long!).

**RiTides**

40K Mysterious Objective set is revealed! Check out the pics:

See the full post on the Kickstarter page at the link below or by clicking the pics above, and maybe this will tempt in a few of you who have been on the fence or haven't had a use for the prior sets

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1388589874/modcube-part-tokens-part-dice-fully-modular/posts/1233616

Please also share this with other 40k communities you are a part of, as this is an unmet need as far as we can tell! We'd also love your input on what the bonus cube should be for this set: a turn counter, warlord trait marker, or wound counter.

**ShaneTB**

Price depending, those mysterious objective markers could get me in.

Edit #1: So if I wanted the two '40k' sets and the mysterious objectives what tier am I looking at?

Will have a proper read later but not sure what tier the MO fall under.

**Vanguard-13**

ShaneTB:

If you wanted two sets ((keep in mind each set comes with around ~80 tokens.)) Of 40k, and one set of Objective markers...

If you got the $55 ModDeux set ((two sets of Mod Cubes, Two+ sets of acrylic)) Will most likely get you one of each set.

So you would need to do the $80 MMMOD set. That would come with three sets of mod Cubes, and about four sets of Tokens.

Remember, All Token sets are by choice. So you could get any sets you like.

**Hulksmash**

I realized I hadn't shared with our 700+ mostly local group so I corrected that error. Hopefully that helps out

**ShaneTB**

Vanguard-13 wrote:
ShaneTB:

If you wanted two sets ((keep in mind each set comes with around ~80 tokens.)) Of 40k, and one set of Objective markers...

If you got the $55 ModDeux set ((two sets of Mod Cubes, Two+ sets of acrylic)) Will most likely get you one of each set.

So you would need to do the $80 MMMOD set. That would come with three sets of mod Cubes, and about four sets of Tokens.

Remember, All Token sets are by choice. So you could get any sets you like.

Thanks. I need to have a proper read through it and see what's best. I thought they'd be an extra cost for the acrylic tray.

**General Hobbs**

I saw on your kickstarter about what other tokens you could make and turn counter tokens were a suggestion.

I like the idea of generic numbers, they can be used as wound counters, hull point counters etc.

Heck, I wish you'd make a set of vehicle damage tokens as well.

These don't look like regular dice and wouldn't be mistakenly picked up and rolled.

Share it with my local friends. Good luck.

**Vanguard-13**

ShaneTB wrote:
Vanguard-13 wrote:
ShaneTB:

If you wanted two sets ((keep in mind each set comes with around ~80 tokens.)) Of 40k, and one set of Objective markers...

If you got the $55 ModDeux set ((two sets of Mod Cubes, Two+ sets of acrylic)) Will most likely get you one of each set.

So you would need to do the $80 MMMOD set. That would come with three sets of mod Cubes, and about four sets of Tokens.

Remember, All Token sets are by choice. So you could get any sets you like.

Thanks. I need to have a proper read through it and see what's best. I thought they'd be an extra cost for the acrylic tray.

Not quite. There is no increased cost. Simply the number of actual Tokens is reduced to about 60. You still get the Acrylic Trays, just not as many tokens to offset the cost.

**RiTides**

Hulksmash wrote:
I realized I hadn't shared with our 700+ mostly local group so I corrected that error. Hopefully that helps out

Oh man, that's great - thanks Hulk!

ShaneTB - I'm still tweaking the exact contents of that set, but the acrylic bases are offset by getting less of the other components in that set. Most sets comes with 8 cubes (plus a free bonus cube of any color, so 9 on Kickstarter) plus 80 tokens. The Mysterious Objective set will come with 2 less cubes (6 + the free bonus cube) and 56 tokens, but will have the six 1.5" bases with a cutout to put the cubes in them

General Hobbs - Thanks for sharing it! And yes, the Mysterious Objective set "bonus cube" will fall into one of those categories - maybe just numbered so people can use it how they like. I do have a Vehicle Damage set, pic spoilered below

(unless you meant just a hull point set)

Spoiler:

**ShaneTB**

Using the extra cube/tokens to mark Sister units under Act of Faith would be nice. Not sure of the logistics and want for that though; espeically as those rules are prone to change with the next codex.

I'll have a proper think as to what the extra dice could be useful for.

**RiTides**

I really want to do faction specific stuff eventually, but it will most likely be later on just due to timing! So it's likely the 8 extra tokens in this set will need to be something that could apply to all armies. Thanks for the suggestion and believe me, I'm eventually going to make some psychic power ModCubes for my tyranids

just have to get these sorted first!

**Theophony**

How about a small set of tokens for Bloodbowl? Or you could do an entire specialist games range set. If the rolling turned out good I could see custom symbols for blocking die as well. Then have your really stupid markers for the big guys. Then have stuff for Mordheim and necromunda as well.... Like jammed or pinned.

**RiTides**

I think the next set is going to be Warmachine / Hordes, followed by Imperial Assault. I would like to cover more systems and with 3 sets for 40k now, and then with Imperial Assault hopefully the trifecta of Fantasy Flight Star Wars games, I think I need to broaden a little bit. The voting was nearly identical for these two, so I was torn between which to do, but Warmahordes makes the most sense to be first.

After that it is more wide open, although I really need to get the Firestorm Armada set in there (those guys have been quite longsuffering!) and the suggested scifi crates set, so that's likely the queue we're looking at.

**xraytango**

Are you coming to Origins next week?

**RiTides**

I've made a new banner

here it is with tags to link it to the Kickstarter (just quote this post and copy that section if you'd like to use it):

We're very close to the $25,500 goal, so I'm hoping to officially post the two new stretch goals tomorrow!

There will also be a surprise coming this week, but if I told you what it was, that would ruin it

Xraytango - We'd have loved to, but I think we will be neck deep in all the finishing items for the campaign then! Hopefully we will be able to attend next year, though

**Vanguard-13**

Well, You've got me interested.

A Surprise from Mod Cube? Could it be... a House made of Mod Cubes?!

**RiTides**

40K Mysterious Objective set is officially unlocked! And the next two stretch goals are posted

. Full update here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1388589874/modcube-part-tokens-part-dice-fully-modular/posts/1236312

Mysterious Objective Set - Unlocked!

Excellent work guys, the mysterious objective set has been unlocked! This will be extremely useful for simplifying keeping track of objectives in games of 40K. Also note that there will be tokens for the Scourging included, which are intended to be hidden under the cube until they are discovered.

What's cooking??

Quite a bit, in fact! We were hoping to have a surprise ready to show today, but it needs a little more work so will be shown Thursday or Friday morning. We'll at least tell you what it is, though - a free piece to help pop the ModCubes apart! Now that they assemble so tightly (which is fantastic) they go together really easily, but are a little harder to disassemble - but not with this piece! It's quite nifty and we can't wait to show it to you later this week =) and, of course, free!

Also, we've had tons of interest from the board gaming community in custom tokens - this actually took us by surprise and we've been playing catch-up on that front! We are testing out card chit tokens in the ModCubes and plan to offer a "cubes only" set (15 cubes but no tokens, so for example 30 cubes for $55) and partner with a custom token service. More to come on this very soon hopefully!

Finally, here are the new stretch goals, which were basically tied in the poll:

$27,000 - Token set compatible with Warmachine / Hordes, plus yellow ModCubes
$28,500 - Token set compatible with SW: Imperial Assault, plus light green ModCubes

We'll show off the grey color cubes (which we just unlocked!) when the next goal is unlocked - thanks for your patience! Any questions, just post a comment or send a PM =)

**Vanguard-13**

Very Cool RiTides!

I was worried the new 'tighter' connection would be an issue when it came to disassembly. But it seems you've taken that into consideration and made an awesome new tool!

Always a step ahead you are! [/yoda]

Now, How many tools will we get? Are we going to get one per set? or will it be one per pledge?

I really can't wait to see what it looks like! I hope it's some steampunk looking contraption!

**Theophony**

Estimated tool design

Spoiler:

Guarantees more MODcube sales in the future

**RiTides**

Thanks, Vanguard! I'm still deciding that... if possible, it would be very helpful to only need to supply one for most pledges, and two for the $100 pledge level (i.e. the second sweet spot). I'd love to hear feedback on that, if possible!

Theophony, it's basically the opposite of that GIANT hammer

. I spoiler tagged that image since it was making the page scroll, hope that's OK

**Theophony**

You can make it okay with free cubes

, sorry I posted it and had to leave so I didn't see how huge it was....almost appropriate though.