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2016/08/17 20:11:37
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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NinthMusketeer wrote:Hm, that's different because it lets you bring back a unit that was wiped out (once per hero phase no less). But so as to keep things as true to the scrolls as possible I would say to remove that note and bump the price up to 175.
But isn't bringing back a unit considered the same as placing a new unit, ie costing Reinforcement Points?
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2016/08/17 23:42:38
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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It's a good question and one I really don't know the answer to. Like the Sylvaneth units I am assuming that they do not come out of reinforcement points because otherwise there is no real purpose to the ability; there is no advantage in paying to re-create the unit when you could have just brought two of it in the first place. Also worth noting that while the gate does refer to the returned models as reinforcement it also explicitly refers to it as the same unit. Ultimately I am going with the interpretation that these abilities are bringing dead models back into the unit (albeit starting from 0 models remaining) because the RaW is ambiguous while the RaI seems more clear.
In fact it's probably worth adding "The replacement units generated by this battalion do not cost reinforcement points." To the Summoner's Hellgate, Oakenbrow Wargrove, and Heartwood Wargrove battalions.
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2016/08/18 09:29:15
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah, by adding that text it will be very clear what we intend with the pointa cost, even if the RAW behind it is unclear.
I'll raise the cost as you suggested and put the text there as well.
The others you mention, I assume the cost for them is already taking this reinforcement into accouny in their cost?
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2016/08/18 19:43:20
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Yup!
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2016/09/01 02:26:53
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Alright, after some table experience using the Mourngul... It is NOT a 420 point model. Easily 500, and I would suggest 550 (my opponent thought 600 was more appropriate ). It just has abilities stacked on abilities that make it so dam powerful beyond the stat line. And unlike most very hard-to-kill models it isn't slow (12" fly!) or weak offensively (much the opposite). The fact that the hit-penalty bubble is units in range rather than models in range is also killer (and stacks with the hit penalty item Death has ready access to for heroes). That it does all this on a relatively small base size makes things even worse (harder for your enemy to get stuff in base contact to swing at it). I could go on, but I think I've gotten my point across
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2016/09/04 11:56:18
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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NinthMusketeer wrote:Alright, after some table experience using the Mourngul... It is NOT a 420 point model. Easily 500, and I would suggest 550 (my opponent thought 600 was more appropriate ). It just has abilities stacked on abilities that make it so dam powerful beyond the stat line. And unlike most very hard-to-kill models it isn't slow (12" fly!) or weak offensively (much the opposite). The fact that the hit-penalty bubble is units in range rather than models in range is also killer (and stacks with the hit penalty item Death has ready access to for heroes). That it does all this on a relatively small base size makes things even worse (harder for your enemy to get stuff in base contact to swing at it). I could go on, but I think I've gotten my point across
Thanks Ninth! We will begin testing this model thouroghly soon, so we will probably come across this as well. Since I will be playing Death I'm sure my opponents will point this out quite well
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2016/09/09 07:04:34
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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So another user noted that the Ushabti and Sepulcheral Stalkers are notably more expensive than their GHB cost. It looks like the custom spell they each bring with them is now much less effective since it can't be cast more than once per turn and can't bring the unit above starting size, but they didn't get an appropriate cost reduction to accommodate that.
On a separate note, how goes the Mourngul-ing?
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2016/09/14 03:25:38
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I've been thinking, adding the following note to the basic PPC comp document may be worthwhile:
"A number of battalions offer the ability to deploy replacement units to those that have been destroyed. PPC assumes these replacements do not cost reinforcement points, as without that benefit many of these battalions are rarely worth using in the first place!"
Or something to that effect. This eliminates the need to add a separate note to each battalion and future ones.
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2016/09/17 11:26:13
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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NinthMusketeer wrote:So another user noted that the Ushabti and Sepulcheral Stalkers are notably more expensive than their GHB cost. It looks like the custom spell they each bring with them is now much less effective since it can't be cast more than once per turn and can't bring the unit above starting size, but they didn't get an appropriate cost reduction to accommodate that.
I re-calculated these units and came to 200 initial / +55p/model for the Sepulcheral Stalkers, and 55p/model for the Ushabti.
I really think the GHB has both of these units too cheap. The Ushabti almost dishes out the same damage as Ironguts, has a potentially better save and are just as fast - for a GHB cost of 100pts less. That's a discount of 45%/model when compared to the Ironguts, even without the possibilty to regain models!. Sounds abit off to me
NinthMusketeer wrote:
On a separate note, how goes the Mourngul-ing?
Not so good yet, what little hobby time my group has had these past weeks have been spent on trying out Gates of Antares and Zombicide - Black Plague. We will get a few AoS games in this coming week though, so I'll soon have some results on that note
NinthMusketeer wrote:I've been thinking, adding the following note to the basic PPC comp document may be worthwhile:
"A number of battalions offer the ability to deploy replacement units to those that have been destroyed. PPC assumes these replacements do not cost reinforcement points, as without that benefit many of these battalions are rarely worth using in the first place!"
Or something to that effect. This eliminates the need to add a separate note to each battalion and future ones.
Very true, and could also be expanded to include other non-summoning abilities as well that does the same effect. Thanks for the suggestion, Ninth!
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2016/09/17 12:09:17
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Those recalculated values for the Ushabti/Stalkers seem better to me, especially for the latter. I felt they should be cheaper but not GHB levels of cheap! I think we can all agree that when the Tomb King models were cut they apparently took half their matched play costs with them!
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2016/09/17 13:38:40
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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2016/09/24 04:01:48
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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So after several more games of Mourngul-ing, I've narrowed in on a theoretical value of 550-600 is where I think it should be. There are simply a huge number of opponents that it can chew through and come out on the other end with little to no wounds due to healing. Even against Stormfiends I've had no problem with mine killing at least one model a turn for the heals. Yet monsters almost have it worse because they tend to rely on good wound/rend/damage values and the 'gul makes them miss like crazy then ignores 2/3 of the wounds that do go through.
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2016/09/24 11:38:55
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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NinthMusketeer wrote:So after several more games of Mourngul-ing, I've narrowed in on a theoretical value of 550-600 is where I think it should be. There are simply a huge number of opponents that it can chew through and come out on the other end with little to no wounds due to healing. Even against Stormfiends I've had no problem with mine killing at least one model a turn for the heals. Yet monsters almost have it worse because they tend to rely on good wound/rend/damage values and the 'gul makes them miss like crazy then ignores 2/3 of the wounds that do go through.
We've also been playtesting it now, and it sure is a beast. It has survived every game, often wrecking alot of havoc on the enemy and has always been a huge threat with its high mobility. We're still not sure about raising it as high as 600, but could well try it out at 550.
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2016/10/02 17:23:28
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't know your whole comp but I was looking through the points for Sylvaneth (since that is what I play) and I was wondering why the branchwraith was so much more expensive than the branchwych?
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2016/10/02 17:55:57
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Aezeal wrote:I don't know your whole comp but I was looking through the points for Sylvaneth (since that is what I play) and I was wondering why the branchwraith was so much more expensive than the branchwych?
Nice catch, it shouldn't be that expensive. When we updated to the latest version, we removed our own summoning spells to use the same system as GHB instead...but didn't reduce the points for the Wraith who has her very own summoning spell. Will fix that for the next update coming in a few weeks.
Thank you for letting us know!
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2016/10/02 18:39:45
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No problem.. the branchwraith is basicly useless in matched play. Should probably be like 50 points max since it's pretty weak in combat and the spell is nearly worthless.
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2016/10/08 23:13:22
Subject: Re:PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Hello PPCers! Its that time of year again, re-evaluating battalions. My central thought process this time around was ease of use; how difficult is it to field that battalion relative to its benefits? Also, with the battalion points values being more abstract than model values (a battalion's effectiveness can vary to a large degree depending on context) I questioned the need for extremely specific points costs. Accordingly, I have devised a semi-abstract formula for determining battalion costs and am re-examining every battalion (wow there are a lot of them now!) to determine where they should fall. As a result, all 'variable' battalion costs are gone, a huge number of battalions were reduced in cost, and the values should be more consistent across the board. As always any comments are welcome!
First off we have the changes for Order:
Thrall Warhost – 125 (down from 175)
Spyreheart Warhost – 100 (changed from variable value)
Realm Reavers – 150 (down from 175)
Waystone Pathfinders – 150 (down from 200)
Exiled Blood Cult – 175 (down from 225)
Exiled Warhost – 100 (down from 125)
Dragon Host – 75 (down from 200) (reduced to accommodate for behemoth slot limits)
Glittering Host – 100 (down from 125)
Wanderer Host – 25 (down from 75)
Defenders of the Realm – Free (down from 75)
Peasant Militia – 75 (down from 150)
Grudgebound War Throng – 100 (down from 200)
Dispossessed Clan Throng – 50 (down from 165)
Dispossessed Artillery Battery – 100 (down from 125)
Guardians of the Great Chain – 100 (down from 165)
Magmadroth Steelburner Pack – 175 (down from 225)
Subterranean Fyrestorm – 150 (up from 125)
Underborers – 150 (up from 115)
Warrior Kinband – 125 (down from 150)
Grand Fyrd – Free (down from 50)
War Council – 100 (up from 0)
Freeguild Regiment – Free (down from 75)
Tauroi Warclan – 175 (changed from variable value)
Brotherhood of Knights – 75 (down from 125)
State Troop Detachment – 125 (down from 225)
Bloodclaw Starhost – 150 (down from 200)
Eternal Starhost – 175 (down from 250)
Heavenswatch Starhost – 175 (changed from variable value)
Shadowstrike Starhost / Skink Patrol – 150 (down from 185) (note: these are the same battalion with different names)
Sunclaw Starhost – 200 (down from 225)
Thunderquake Starhost – 200 (changed from variable value)
Saurus Host – 125 (down from 200)
Klaq-Tor’s Talons – 25 (down from 135)
Host Azyric – Free (down from 75) (note: this is listed twice in the PPC document, at different values no less!)
Devastation Brotherhood – 75 (down from 150)
Annihilation Brotherhood – 25 (down from 75)
Grymn’s Brotherhood – 175 (down from 315)
Brotherhood of the Great Bolts – 300 (changed from variable value)
Exemplar Chamber – Free (down from 100)
The Hallowed Hunt – 100 (down from 185)
The Merciless Host – 50 (down from 200)
Thunderstrike Brotherhood – 75 (down from 300)
Vanguard Wing – 150 (up from 125)
Wardens of the Realmgate – 75 (down from 250)
Warrior Brotherhood – 75 (down from 150)
Cleansers of the Woods – 50 (down from 185)
Hammer and Anvil – 100 (up from 85)
Storm-Strike Team – 125 (down from 200)
Drakesworn Temple – 100 (down from 150)
Lightning Echelon – 100 (down from 215)
Thunderwave Echelon – 150 (down from 185)
Alarielle’s Heartwood Guard – 125 (down from 225)
Forest Spirit Wargrove – 50 (down from 100)
Guardians of the Deepwood – 100 (down from 150)
Household – 75 (down from 100)
Forest Folk – 75 (down from 125)
Outcasts – 100 (up from 85)
Oakenbrow Wargrove – 50 (down from 185)
Gnarlroot Wargrove – 150 (changed from variable value)
Heartwood Wargrove – 25 (down from 200)
Ironbark Wargrove – 125 (down from 250)
Winterleaf Wargrove – 150 (up from 115)
Dreadwood Wargrove – 50 (down from 185)
Harvestboon Wargrove – 100 (changed from variable value)
Guardians of Alarielle – 100 (down from 275)
Heartwood Host – 150 (up from 100)
Enjoy!
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2016/10/09 07:39:28
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Large reduction in heartwood wargrove. I never understood why it was to expensive since the limits on it are pretty steep actually getting a unit back isn't that easy.
Overall a large point reduction in many formations btw.
I'm keeping an eye on this comp, atm GHB is sufficient for my purposes so I'm not using it yet.
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2016/10/09 18:31:14
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hello people!
We are coming in for the last week before v2016.10 is released. If there are any units you wish us to review before the update, now is the time to let us know.
Cheers!
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2016/10/11 05:53:05
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Chaos!
Bloodstorm – 125 (down from 150)
Brass Stampede – 75 (up from 50)
Dark Feast – 150 (down from 175)
Red Headsmen – 100 (up from 85)
The Gorechosen – Free (down from 150) (changed to account for limited hero slots)
Daemon Cohort of Khorne – 50 (down from 75)
Bloodmarked Warband – 175 (down from 265)
Skall’Uk’s Slaughterband – 150 (down from 175)
Murderband – 150 (up from 60)
Blackshard Warhost – 125 (down from 200)
Artillery Train – 125 (down from 200)
Daemon Cohort of Nurgle – 100 (down from 150)
Nurgle’s Deluge – 150 (down from 200)
Pustrol’s Plague Cohort – 150 (up from 135)
Tallyband of Nurgle – 225 (changed from variable value)
Plaguetouched Warband – 225 (down from 250)
Blighted Warband – 125 (down from 235)
Blightguard – 175 (down from 200)
Bloab’s Swarmbrothers – 150 (down from 225)
Bringers of the Rotsmog – 25 (down from 90)
Pestilent Clawpack – 175 (down from 275)
Plaguesmog Congregation – 125 (down from 215)
Virulent Procession – 50 (down from 125)
Clan Skryre – 75 (unchanged, the price remains “75, plus the value of Enginecovens”)
-Whyrlblade Threshik – 25 (unchanged)
-Gascloud Chokelung – 75 (unchanged)
-Rattlegauge Warplok – 100 (down from 125)
-Arkhspark Voltik – 25 (down from 35)
-Gautfyre Skorch – 125 (up from 85)
Skulkers of Runestruck Pass – 175 (down from 300)
Daemon Cohort of Slaanesh – 100 (down from 175)
Pleasurebound Warband – 100 (down from 150)
Lascilion’s Wanton Horde – 125 (down from 150)
Sons of the Maggot Lord – Free (down from 75)
The Leaping Pox – 50 (down from 100)
Daemon Cohort of Tzeentch – 75 (down from 85)
Changehost of Tzeentch – 150 (down from 235)
The Watcher King’s Horde – 125 (down from 250)
Fatesworn Warband – 175 (down from 200)
Ironguard – 150 (down from 200)
Overlords of Chaos – 100 (down from 175)
Infernal Tetrachy - 100 (down from 225)
Godswrath Warband – 50 (down from 200)
Chaos Warband – 100 (down from 175)
Archaon’s Grand Host – Free (110)
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2016/10/12 15:22:58
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Thanks for all the hard work, Ninth. The updated battalions have all been added to the update.
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2016/10/12 16:17:28
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Happy to help! I am planning to have destruction and death done by the end of the week in time for the update. As a sidenote, once I am done all the battalions save Skryre should just be a name and a value with no notes required (provided the bit about replacement units goes into the main comp).
Anyways, if anyone wants to get in some feedback now is the time! As a bit of a forecast, Beastclaw battalions are probably going to come down due to number-crunching revealing to me just how many points in models they need. Automatically Appended Next Post: Death!
Neferata’s Blood-Court – 125 (down from 175)
Abbattoir – 125 (up from 115)
Attendants at Court – 75 (down from 125)
Deadwatch – 225 (up from 200)
Ghoul Patrol – 225 (up from 215)
Royal Family – 100 (down from 175)
Royal Menagerie – 100 (up from 75)
Royal Mordants – 75 (up from 65)
Ghoulish Host – 125 (new)
Royal Legion of Chariots – 150 (down from 185)
Tomb Legion – 25 (down from 100)
Charnel Pit Carrion – 150 (down from 215)
Deathrattle Horde – 25 (down from 50)
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2016/10/14 17:00:55
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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I just downloaded the files on the ppc site to BattleScribe, for fun so I could build my chaos army in GHB and PPC. It is v 201608. Oddly it seems the points are off compared to the PDF document, specifically for bloodreavers and aspiring deathbringer. Maybe others too, I stopped cross referencing at a point.
I thought you'd like to know. Automatically Appended Next Post: In addition blood warriors are full battleline, not just allegiance battleline (unless it's a PPC take on allegiance battleline).
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2016/10/14 21:20:13
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Afaik PPC didn't alter any battlelines so that's probably a mistake.
Anyways, Destruction!
Great Moonclan – 100 (down from 165)
Sons of Behemat – Free (down from 125)
Braggoth’s Beast Hammer – 100 (down from 160)
Eurlbad – 75 (up from 60)
Jorlbad – 50 (down from 80)
Olwyr Alfrostun – Free (down from 120)
Skal – 75 (down from 135)
Torrbad – 50 (down from 60)
Beastclaw Avalanche – 175 (down from 225)
Bonegrinz Warclan – 75 (down from 200)
Brutal Rukk – 75 (up from 40)
Drakkfoot Warclan – 50 (down from 125)
Icebone Warclan – 75 (down from 150)
Kop Rukk – 125 (up from 100)
Kunnin Rukk – 250 (up from 150)
Snaga Rukk – 50 (down from 75)
Teef Rukk – 75 (down from 100)
Gordrakk’s Megafist – 25 (down from 250)
Brawl – Free (110)
Brutefist – 75 (down from 100)
Ironfist – 225 (up from 215)
Weirdfirst – 175 (down from 185)
Bonesplittaz Big Mob – 75 (down from 235)
Ironjawz Big Mob – 100 (down from 115)
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2016/10/15 07:02:52
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Flashy Flashgitz
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It's good to see the battalions getting evalutions, so the meanest tournylists get prober priced, and the others lowered on.
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With love from Denmark
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2016/10/15 08:45:43
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Waaargh wrote:I just downloaded the files on the ppc site to BattleScribe, for fun so I could build my chaos army in GHB and PPC. It is v 201608. Oddly it seems the points are off compared to the PDF document, specifically for bloodreavers and aspiring deathbringer. Maybe others too, I stopped cross referencing at a point.
I thought you'd like to know.
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In addition blood warriors are full battleline, not just allegiance battleline (unless it's a PPC take on allegiance battleline).
Thanks, Waaargh!
There is an issue with the Reavers in BScribe, that is fixed for the upcoming version. Thanks for letting me know about the Warriors too, they will be put in their proper place as well now! And the Aspiring Desthbringer too. I will go through the list properly when I add the new changes.
Cheers!
Automatically Appended Next Post: The new Stormcast hero Lord-Veritant has been calculated and comes in at 110pts.
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Want to play a balanced Age of Sigmar?
The Age of Sigmar Project Points Cost!
Points cost for ALL armies, including unit upgrades and special abilities!
http://ageofwargamers.blogspot.com |
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2016/10/15 09:37:08
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Wohoo, great stuff
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With love from Denmark
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2016/10/16 01:59:13
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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I'm confused as to why the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist with the Ghoul King cost so much more than just the Ghoul King + Dragon. The king loses an attack riding on top and changes what spells he has. Is there a reason it costs 40-45 pts more to add the hero to the mount?
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2016/10/17 15:51:41
Subject: Re:PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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PPC has now received its update to v2016.10!
Check out all changes HERE.
Cheers people!
Mulletdude wrote:I'm confused as to why the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist with the Ghoul King cost so much more than just the Ghoul King + Dragon. The king loses an attack riding on top and changes what spells he has. Is there a reason it costs 40-45 pts more to add the hero to the mount?
Hi, most of the time when something like this happens, it's because some abilities are valued higher than others. For instance, the ability to heal D3 wounds on the Ghoul King on foot is not as good as healing D3 for him on a monster, because it's easier to one-shot him to circumvent the ability entirely when he's on foot. Having said that, you'll find that the price for the King on Terrorgheist/Dragon has gone down in the recent update
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Want to play a balanced Age of Sigmar?
The Age of Sigmar Project Points Cost!
Points cost for ALL armies, including unit upgrades and special abilities!
http://ageofwargamers.blogspot.com |
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2016/10/20 23:51:45
Subject: PPC - Points for ALL units, upgrades and battalions in Age of Sigmar
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Flashy Flashgitz
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I have some difficulties upgrading the battlescripe files on my smartphone. When I tried on my PC I got told I had downloaded the v2016.10 but when importing date from my files I ended up with v.2016.08.
Maybe it's just me.
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With love from Denmark
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