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 Sinful Hero wrote:
Married men do as well. As do women. As a matter of fact, if you judge by her art prints my wife appreciates the female form more than I do!

Except this is the female form that, at least on the Reaper forums, the women prefer:



Amusingly, Oathsworn Miniatures (and The Dice Bag Lady) have lines of "sensibly dressed women" which seem to be doing well. Oathsworn's KS pulled in nearly 50K for fully-clothed women.



"Female form" doesn't mean "oversexualized". Still, if the wife prefers these Prodos miniatures, it's good to hear at least one woman does.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
a quick update for dakkdakkers:

PG13, SC Calypso hero... more about her a bit later,

here she is in 360 https://skfb.ly/KSwE

Honestly? This is garbage. You're doing a rush job on these "PG13" models and it shows. Scrap the whole mess, read some 101 guides to anatomy and human proportions, and start over from the beginning. And you should probably try to lose some of the clutter on the model, the overlapping plates are way too exaggerated.

ced1106 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Married men do as well. As do women. As a matter of fact, if you judge by her art prints my wife appreciates the female form more than I do!

Except this is the female form that, at least on the Reaper forums, the women prefer:

Spoiler:

Amusingly, Oathsworn Miniatures (and The Dice Bag Lady) have lines of "sensibly dressed women" which seem to be doing well. Oathsworn's KS pulled in nearly 50K for fully-clothed women.

Spoiler:

"Female form" doesn't mean "oversexualized". Still, if the wife prefers these Prodos miniatures, it's good to hear at least one woman does.

Yeah, I got in on the Oathsworn Kickstarter. That Half-Orc has swagger down pat.

Honestly my wife's tastes range all over the place, from outright cheesecake to the more artsy "reclining nude". For her own sketches and artwork she prefers pinup girls and models like Stefania Ferrario.

I'm not too big on Prodos's take with the bikini bashers, and the better half rolled her eyes. Got a good friend(married) who's probably trying to figure out how to fit an order into his budget. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

Don't know why I don't have my AVP stuff, yet....

This stuff is just....

There is a difference between "Cheesecake", and Crap. This game looks like gak in a box.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:


...We have not scrapped anything, both lines 18+ and PG13 will be in parallel developed.

I'm compelled to express concern that this will divide y'alls attention. I heartily recommend going all in one direction or another.
Obviously (in case it's not obvious), my self-interest in Sisters of Battle proxies leads me to urge you for the more-armored PG-13 version.

But your pre-sales and fan feedback may be telling you to do the 18+. In which case don't risk under-developing that product with split attention and resources on a parallel production.

\shrug\ just some free advice from an old man. For what it's worth.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
a quick update for dakkdakkers:

PG13, SC Calypso hero... more about her a bit later,

here she is in 360 https://skfb.ly/KSwE

I like it but still the waist is a tad thin

 Peregrine wrote:
Honestly? This is garbage. You're doing a rush job on these "PG13" models and it shows. Scrap the whole mess, read some 101 guides to anatomy and human proportions, and start over from the beginning. And you should probably try to lose some of the clutter on the model, the overlapping plates are way too exaggerated.

Honestly? That model has better proportions than most of the SM range. You hear anyone complaining? No, because rule of cool overwrites having thin thighs.

 Ratius wrote:
Thats pretty cool. Claw maybe a little oversized but good.

Thought that was a claw as well (and was a little intrigued with it), but I think that "claw" is a shield. You can see her left hand armored fingers just in front of the sash.

T

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Honestly? That model has better proportions than most of the SM range. You hear anyone complaining? No, because rule of cool overwrites having thin thighs.

Actually I do hear a lot of complaints about GW's models.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

We have not scrapped anything, both lines 18+ and PG13 will be in parallel developed.

Good on you. Stick true to your vision.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Honestly? That model has better proportions than most of the SM range. You hear anyone complaining? .

Uh... yes? People constantly complain about the proportions of GW's models.

It's a style choice, but even within that exagerated style it's possible to take things to far. And, for my taste at least, having a waist that's thinner than your head just looks wrong, exagerated styling or no. Especially when you're factoring in heavy armour, which makes the actual human parts inside even thinner.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
Hey, at least the motorbike sculpts themselves look very nice.

Agreed, I'd just hate to give them money for the bikes alone since it would encourage more of this sexist crap.

Well, wait then for Armoured version

and a quick update :

We are please to announce that due to huge amount of emails with request to make the Space Crusade more accessible to younger audience we will be also releasing PG13 version of the game, now in pre-order at shop.prodosgames.com. Please find attached 1st re-done for PG13 Heroine, Calypso and close ups of Demon miniatures that you will find in both versions of the game. If you have pre-ordered 19+ version, fear not, we will give you an option get PG13 instead. Stay tuned for next week update. Thanks.

I am a big fan of the Warzone Resurrection minis, but this is just horrid. It is just a shameless copying of 40k miniatures, with only distinguishing thing being that they are ridiculously sexualized and have oversized boobs. I really hope Prodos will stick to making more nice miniatures for Warzone instead, those are really nice. Prodos can produce really beautiful, great quality miniatures. Why not use that talent to make even more stuff for Warzone, an awesome and unique setting, rather than make a low-quality rip-off of the 40k style?

The armoured ones are better though, but still nothing more than pseudo-GW miniatures. And some of those daemon miniatures have merit for a Slaanesh army in 40k. Oh, and I agree with the bikes being really awesome.

So. Now the Prodos webshop has updated Space cRusade from shipping after Feb 23rd to after June 2016.

I was under the impression that the boobtacular version release was imminent. Why the wait?

It seems that they haven't learned from their KS issues - and neither have the buyers.

 Ratius wrote:
Thats pretty cool. Claw maybe a little oversized but good.

I think that's a shield.

Ah righto!

 Mr. Burning wrote:
So. Now the Prodos webshop has updated Space cRusade from shipping after Feb 23rd to after June 2016.

The boxed game has always had a June release date. The individual models were the only ones that had a Feb release date and are still showing Feb release dates.

It's a strange situation for those of us missing kickstarter items from prodos.

I would like them to take this sexist trash and sink it along with their shoddy company.

But I would also like people to give them money so I get my stuff.

Honestly I really like the armored female hero.

 Mr. Burning wrote:
So. Now the Prodos webshop has updated Space cRusade from shipping after Feb 23rd to after June 2016.

I was under the impression that the boobtacular version release was imminent. Why the wait?

It seems that they haven't learned from their KS issues - and neither have the buyers.

Just the boxed game.

I could potentially see myself buying some of these now, but I'd want to hear that everyone has finally got their WarZone and AVP stuff first. Until that happens, I'd honestly sooner buy from recasters. (which is in itself unlikely).

ced1106 wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Married men do as well. As do women. As a matter of fact, if you judge by her art prints my wife appreciates the female form more than I do!

Except this is the female form that, at least on the Reaper forums, the women prefer:

Spoiler:

There - now that is a model that I like!

My good lady is of similar mind, but the one that I am getting for her is

Amusingly, Oathsworn Miniatures (and The Dice Bag Lady) have lines of "sensibly dressed women" which seem to be doing well. Oathsworn's KS pulled in nearly 50K for fully-clothed women.

Spoiler:

She has a half-orc barbarian....

The Auld Grump

You know, I'd like to make clear that I'm less concerned about 'accessible to a younger audience' and more concerned about 'gross and/or weird looking.' Which is all relative, but it's a bit irksome to see this hewing back to requests to please think of the children. Keep the gross, 18+ daemons, keep the weird-ass sexy-penitant-dread-thing. Pull back on the Liefeld-hipped size XL Dark Elf Wytches, and even then, only because they're, well, weird and gross looking.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
Hey, at least the motorbike sculpts themselves look very nice.

Agreed, I'd just hate to give them money for the bikes alone since it would encourage more of this sexist crap.

Well, wait then for Armoured version

and a quick update :

We are please to announce that due to huge amount of emails with request to make the Space Crusade more accessible to younger audience we will be also releasing PG13 version of the game, now in pre-order at shop.prodosgames.com. Please find attached 1st re-done for PG13 Heroine, Calypso and close ups of Demon miniatures that you will find in both versions of the game. If you have pre-ordered 19+ version, fear not, we will give you an option get PG13 instead. Stay tuned for next week update. Thanks.

Well I'm disappointed. After removing live stocking from the entire site because it showed up the exaggeration of sales I fully expected to come back a few days later to pronouncements of world market domination at the very least.

Might as well have left the sales figures up if you weren't going to tell even bigger fibs

I shall have to make do with tales of just how many private messages and emails desperately asking for a PG13 version of this sexist dogshit have been sent.

(Oh and I appreciate the sharing of the demonwangs, we are happy to help even the score. We also have a couple of naked short bald guys, a naked chaos minotaur, a naked half ogre and there's a naked ogre on the way. Happy to help put a dent in the wang/boob ratio )

Completely off topic, but if you're the guy who made those Red-Box and Artemis Black sculpts (just going by your name here as my phone doesn't load up much else in view) then I have to say they are gorgeous.

People are still raging about this, amazing...

And people are still bitching about people raging. Which is amazing in and of itself...

And people are bitching about people bitching about people raging about this, which is ............ well it's pretty much run of the mill actually

 Artemis Black wrote:
Well I'm disappointed. After removing live stocking from the entire site because it showed up the exaggeration of sales I fully expected to come back a few days later to pronouncements of world market domination at the very least.

Might as well have left the sales figures up if you weren't going to tell even bigger fibs

I shall have to make do with tales of just how many private messages and emails desperately asking for a PG13 version of this sexist dogshit have been sent.

(Oh and I appreciate the sharing of the demonwangs, we are happy to help even the score. We also have a couple of naked short bald guys, a naked chaos minotaur, a naked half ogre and there's a naked ogre on the way. Happy to help put a dent in the wang/boob ratio )

Thanks for your comment, live stocking was removed because it's not working with back orders (pre-orders), as for sales on SC miniatures alone, excluding board game pre-orders + miniatures (being on the back-order): here is a screenshot, trending:

https://gyazo.com/a5aeaa16b9299ffc87259f96aea65d95

Frankly, I would actually expect a bit more professional comment from someone how is also producing and selling miniatures, especially on the sales bit...

as for design, well : especially this is not wang/boob ration right? http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=football-kalee~hff001&category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~fantasy-football

or maybe this line: http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~40mm-%26-54mm-scale

and one of yours http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=red-box-%252d-yrsa-the-accused~rbh007&category=artemis-blacks~%2Anew-arrivals%2A ,not like she is half naked or something.

............... http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=40mm-artemis-%28resin%29~hf4001b&category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~40mm-%26-54mm-scale why would she need a panties if she got a shield.

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