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Solahma






RVA

All discussion of Attack Wing releases and events goes here.

For example:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/550107.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558438.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558272.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/554060.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/551369.page

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Toronto

Hi Manchu,

While it's still early days for the game, I'd hope that consideration will be made for the possibility of an Attack Wing sub-forum to ensure the non-clogging of the x-wing forum, and discussions of multiple topics without having to search through two potentially huge threads. There is definitely interest here, and I'd like to see the community for Attack Wing grow on Dakka as it has on other forums.

Thanks in advance


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An Attack Wing sub-forum is definitely a possibility. The current issue is there are a lot more Attack Wing threads than participants. This was also initially true of X-Wing, which only got a sub-forum a long while after the product line was released, when we could see it generated sustainable interest over a significant amount of Dakka members. While the quality of Attack Wing discussion is already very high on Dakka, it's a bit diffuse given that less than ten members regularly post on the topic. By concentrating it in two stickied threads, I hope to not only free up the X-Wing subforum but also demonstrate growing, sustainable interest so we can eventually get the game its own sub-forum going.

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Toronto

Fair enough.

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Oh.. well my post didn't really fit in either this or the battle report thread.. and having every conversation on the subject in a single thread is going to make it more or less impossible to have any kind of coherent discussion without replies becoming confused. I guess I'll just stick to A few manouvers and BGG for attack wing talk. :(
   
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Via con Dios. As you can see there is no current convo in this thread, other than this board meta chat, so I doubt there would be much confusion. And even if all ten posters who talk about Attack Wing on Dakka were active in this thread ... well, I still doubt there would be much confusion. See above for our thinking on this matter.

   
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Toronto

I figure that until we get some indication of the new ships coming in December, there won't really be much to discuss in this thread.

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RVA

This thread is intended for anything less specific than tactical questions/advice and batreps. Possible topics include product quality, proxy models/modeling, rules questions, proposed rules, accessories, etc. I have updated the title to clarify.

   
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Brighton, MO

Gordash wrote:
I figure that until we get some indication of the new ships coming in December, there won't really be much to discuss in this thread.


Actually, Slated for December release are

Excelsior
a Romulan Scout Variant
A Variation on the Galor Class
And... The Klingon Bird of Prey (Which is REALLY tiny...)

EDIT: Wait, that doesn't seem right, looks like 4th Wing Attack Ship is in the wave AFTER the Excelsior and co. comes out.

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I wonder if they'll update the paint scheme on the Galor variant. The first wave Galor was way too dark, IMO.

Also not happy that the BoP will be really tiny. What an odd choice with a giant Defiant.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
I wonder if they'll update the paint scheme on the Galor variant. The first wave Galor was way too dark, IMO.

Also not happy that the BoP will be really tiny. What an odd choice with a giant Defiant.


The cardassian ship is the keldon class, judging from the heroclix version it will be the same paint scheme as tha galor.

Wizkids only has one BoP model in their heroclix line with different paint schemes so I think it is a safe bet that the December release (kavort class) will be the same model as the OP2 prize (B'Rel class) just with different stats.

None of this bothers me, I think the wizkids models look awsome and I don't have to paint them

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I did some simple coat and dry brush work on mine and they turned out awesome i'll try to load a few pics up tonite if i can remember. for 6 ship it took me less than an hour to complete and they look great.

I'm currently going to try to get a heroclix BoP So i can use it as a B'riel class, and all i need to do is get my hands on some high res scans of the cards to print out

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not a fan of all these romulan scout variants! already have 1 lol.

I want to see a few more federation ships along with the dominion battle cruiser!
   
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Toronto

Everything I've seen suggests that the BOP will be the same size as the OP2 prize. Where are we getting the info on the tiny BOP?

I wouldn't mind a tiny BOP actually, since I'd rather have them in scale.

I'd say they probably won't be updating the paint scheme on any of the re-released ships. But the ship being released is NOT a Galor variant. I can't find the release names right now, but I was under the impression that the new cardassian ship is the very large battlecruiser... but I could be wrong.


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The info I have for releases is:

December (Wave 2)
USS Excelsior
IKS Koraga (Klingon BoP)
RIS Vo (Romulan Scout)
Koranak (Cardassian Keldon Class)

February (Wave 3)
USS Equinox
IKS Somraw
IRW Gal Gath'thong
4th Division Battleship

April (Wave 4)
USS Voyager
Kazon Raider
Species 8472 Bioship
Borg Sphere

OP Prizes
Nov - D'deridex
Dec/Jan - USS Sutherland
Feb - Breen Battloe Cruiser
Mar - DS9

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Toronto

Thanks for posting that up. I was googling it earlier but couldn't find it.

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I just purchased the core set and my first ships for this game and was doing a bit of list building last night and have a question regarding the 1 point extra for non-faction upgrades. For example, I plan to put Picard on the named Vor'cha and know that he costs 1 point extra for not being a Klingon. I want to put Attack Pattern Omega on him. My question is do I have to pay the extra point for having a Fed upgrade on a Klingon ship or not pay because it's being attached to a Fed captain?

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If your faction is Klingon, any non-Klingon upgrades cost extra. Even though you're attaching a Federation upgrade to a Federation Captain, neither of them are Klingon and will cost one extra point each.

So, yes, you pay the extra point.

 
   
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Toronto

The ship's faction is the determining factor. If the ship's faction is Klingon, then all non Klingon upgrades cost 1 more pt.

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Ok so there are some rumors floating around on Boardgamegeek about the Sutherland OP4 prize. So far the guy seems legit his rumors on the OP3 warbird were confirmed by a video on YouTube.

So he says that the Sutherland captain is Data, as we suspected. Suposedly captain skill 4, with an action ability to turn all cloak tokens to red for enemy ships range 1-3.

I am not sure I see much benefit in this ability. If the ship cloaked the previous turn it is still considered fully cloaked until the end ofthe round. So it can't be target locked and gets to roll its extra dice. If they cloaked this round they could already be target locked.


The only real benefit to this I see is those klingons/valdors that want to fly past and cloak and come about the next turn. He could screw with things like the praetus which could take damage if it has to recloak and advaced weapons system.

If this is true I don't think captain Data will be all that good. Most cloaking fleets I see are using high captain skills so they can move after Data. So I would see them haning back out of his effect range them move up and shoot him out of the sky.

What are everyone else's thoughts?

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Toronto

I also read that rumour. You'll be able to get target locks on cloaked ships for an action. It's not broken at all. I'm also coming around on the cloaked mines not being amazing either. I've also been reading that some people think that Barrage of fire is overpowered. I took a look at it and said meh. I'd imagine that the'll errata it to say that only the owning captain's tokens can effect the roll, and then it'll be even more meh than it is now.

The overpowered upgrades are the efficient upgrades, not the one use, completely dice dependant, swingy ones.

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USA

If the ship was cloaked the turn before Data does his ability then they can't be target locked. IIRC they rules just say as long as the ship has hadthe token for a full turn it can not be locked, but ddoesn't specify what color it has to be.

I also am not over the moon for Barrage of Fire. There are too many ways to deal with it, Conditional surrender, Interphase Generator, Corbanite Maneuver, Verrel, stater set O'Brian.

Personally I was more excited about Defese Condition One. Putting Battle statioms on multiple ships for 1 action is awsome! Not to mention command tokens seem to be a muche better way to spend points.

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Toronto

Well, then there's less of a point to take Captain Data.

From what I read on BGG, Barrage of Fire only uses the printed attack cost- not modified costs.

I've got the same issue with defence condition one- one time use.

Now, the COMMAND TOKENS. HOLY. One per turn for four turns, and you don't use any on your first turn because you're too far away for them to be of any use. It's a great upgrade. Most games only last about 6-8 turns anyway, so those 5 pts will be utilized the vast majority of the game, and they can be used on any ship. They're really good.

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If I am reading things right with BoF its 4 attacks, you add the neighbor ships primary attack value, however the ship that is using would still get its extra attacks from things like Gowron, Donatra or LE Martok.

Example, a B'Rel class has BoF (4), uses the primary weapon from a nearby Vorcha (5), and on a 3rd ship Gowron has used his ability (1). So with 2 ships that is 4+5+1=10 attacks going at one target.

However 2 ships are taking an auxiliary power token for this. But if you had the same 2 ships get buffed by Gowron without the use of BoF you get 4+1=5 and 5+1=6 for a total of 11 attacks.

Yes your opponent gets to roll twice but you get an extra attack and nobody takes an auxiliary power token, plus you save 5pts for something else.

For me I don't think BoF is worth it.


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Honestly I think DEFENSE CONDITION ONE (DCO) is worth 5pts. The ability to give multiple ships battle stations for 1 action is both cool and useful. For klingons this is big because they only have one ship that can do battle stations, and unless your desperate the D7 is a pass anyway.

I thinks DCO is a much more effective use of points. I would really like to try this out in a bigger 150-200 point game.

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Toronto

I don't think it's worth the 5 pts in a three ship build. in a 6-7 ship 200 pt game, I'm sure it's worth 5 pts. I haven't started analyzing the game past 100pts. How does it play? I'd imagine it scales very well!

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So far it has just benn theory past the 100 pt mark, except for 1 game I played 100 pt dominion vs 200 federation/klingon. Hopefully this week or next we will get a big game in.

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Toronto

I've got an analysis of Spock up on my blog (I'm going to need to format it to insert spaces into the paragraphs- not sure what I was thinking, and I can't format at work). I really think he's an amazing upgrade, priced just high enough that you won't see him in off faction builds. I'd love to see more upgrades like him. Interesting passive abilities are really good.

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Brighton, MO

So, the Romulan Ship OP prize is pretty bonkers...

 
   
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I actually like it. The ship has a cool ability as does the captain. I am very interested to see what else is in the pack. I just hope I can get one.

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Toronto

You guys like it? I suppose you could equip with a low skill captain, soak up some damage and then fire! But I'm not sold yet. I'd like to see the rest of the package.

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