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I know this topic has been brought up before from searching the forums. But I thought it deserved a second look now that many codices have come out.

Can a Chaos Lord/Sorcerer exchange multiple weapons for multiple Chaos Artifacts?

The old consensus was that the wording meant only one weapon may be exchanged, while others argued that it simply meant that a weapon must be replaced. I have contacted GW for hopes of a clearer ruling, but have yet to receive a response. The reason I bring it up is, why would JUST the CSM book be hampered this way? Could it just be badly worded as it was the first new codex to come out? EVERY other 6th ed codex allows multiple artifacts/relics.

My group has always played multiple artifacts, and I have a mini based on it. The other reason I ask, is that the Black Legion Supplement doesn't limit the number to one either.

SHOULD it be allowed, and if so, should we mass contact GW to ask for a ruling, or possibly a new wording to the Codex. I have heard rumors that the iPad codex has already been changed, but I have no way of knowing since I have not an iPad.

BL are definitely not limited to one artefact per model, and IMHO, neither are CSM. I thought that by now, the Space Marine Force Requisition allowed you to take multiple artefacts per model, and as that is the same wording, it effectively nullified the argument.

I also expect this thread to get locked, because the last thread on this only died a couple of weeks ago.

Sorry, I must have missed how early that was. I only got the urge to post since with the latest change in Army Builder, the update by AB40k.org, it no longer allows multiple artifacts, a major change that only now happened with the latest update, and it had been allowing it since the release of C:CSM.

The space marine army builder argument doesn't hold much water with me as they have had to fix the thing a few times and I've not heard anyone say it definitively is part of the design team's work.
I've also not heard anyone confirm in the last while after the fixes if it continues to allow multiple relics.

Some artifacts require a weapon swap, some don't. You're only allowed to swap one weapon. You can therefore take up to one artifact that requires a weapon swap, and any number of those that don't.

The only limit to Chaos Artefacts' is the weapon swap and a few of them don't even do that. Example, you can take the BBoS, AoBF, and the Dimensional Key on any model that can choose from the list. Swap the bolt pistol/ boltgun for the BBoS, swap the CCW for the AoBF, and the D-Key doesn't take up a weapon slot.

It's great because you can actually make cool mini's. I always thought that a Chaos Lord should get some cool weapns by default, but this way you can customize! I just made a Lord with a powerfist and the BBoS.

Also, any tips for making a D-Key?

 chaosvoices wrote:
The reason I bring it up is, why would JUST the CSM book be hampered this way?

Eldar and Dark Angels have the same wording as CSM. (I believe C:SM too, but I don't have it here to check).

Sororitas and Daemons can only take one "relic" no matter what.

Only Tau are unrestricted (well, restricted to four without any kind of exchange).

darkcloak wrote:
The only limit to Chaos Artefacts' is the weapon swap and a few of them don't even do that. Example, you can take the BBoS, AoBF, and the Dimensional Key on any model that can choose from the list. Swap the bolt pistol/ boltgun for the BBoS, swap the CCW for the AoBF, and the D-Key doesn't take up a weapon slot.

It's great because you can actually make cool mini's. I always thought that a Chaos Lord should get some cool weapns by default, but this way you can customize! I just made a Lord with a powerfist and the BBoS.

Also, any tips for making a D-Key?

Ok you cannot take the Axe of blind fury and the burning brand on the same model as you have swapped 2 weapons not the one weapon the rules allow.
As for the ones that do not replace, I always read it as you may replace one weapon and don't end up loosing it for that selection but you don't get a second pick of the bag. The point 3 essential turns the first line of that table to A model can take ONE of the following.

darkcloak wrote:
Also, any tips for making a D-Key?

Trophy racks on terminators make excellent keychains.

I think way to handle multiple artefacts is to share your list with your opponent, point out the fact you are using multiple artefacts, and let them tell you if they have an objection. I have been pointing out my BL CL with multiple artefacts for a while now and no one has ever objected.

Techsoldaten, that's not really necessary since there are no restrictions on the number of artifacts you can put on a model in the BL supplement

We say that, but there are people who think otherwise and I am there to play a game not argue.

Courtesy is the best counter to someone's intransigence.