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Gathering the Informations.

So, this is a company I am in no way affiliated with beyond liking their products but felt like deserved their own thread rather than being lumped in with the Infinity N&R thread. They are one of Corvus Belli's "Infinity Partners" and are working on some terrain and have quite a bit of stuff available already. Here's some shots for an upcoming product from an event:





These items are planned for a January 2014 release and I'll be keeping an eye on every bit of news I can about this company to showcase what's coming.

Here is their webpage

UPDATED DECEMBER 17TH:

First look at a new TAG Hangar for Infinity's lineup.

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Their Japanese terrain makes me want to run a game that could utilize it! It's beautiful.

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In a period of monotonous MDF crap, these curves are refreshing... though what material are they? If it is MDF, how easy will those curved buildings be to make?
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Saxon wrote:
In a period of monotonous MDF crap, these curves are refreshing... though what material are they? If it is MDF, how easy will those curved buildings be to make?

They use PVC instead of MDF.
   
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I guess the bit that says PVC sceneries in the pictures was a big clue...
   
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Thanks for starting up and committing to keeping this thread updated - I'm subscribed now!

And I can't wait to get that terrain.

AS previously noted, it is nice to see curves and rounded shapes in the future!

   
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That is some beautiful stuff, holy crap.
   
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Hmm, that has a hard sci-fi look that will fit in very well with Deadzone... I'll keep an eye on this. Mantic already do great DZ terrain, but more options is always good.

 
   
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Nice stuff, might wanna add a link to the company site though.



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Not sure about DZ use; I think those things are quite a bit larger than 3"x3", right?
   
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 Bolognesus wrote:
Not sure about DZ use; I think those things are quite a bit larger than 3"x3", right?


Looking at the size of the doors, they look around 3x3, and if not, they can always be sections off aand count as multiple cubes. It could take some work and a little abstraction, but it should be doable.

 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 BrookM wrote:
Nice stuff, might wanna add a link to the company site though.

Hey you, stop being logical!
   
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hmm, going by the door I'd put them at around 4"-4,5" squared, but if you're right, a little bit over size (3,5" or so) could work OK.
   
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Its foamed-pvc (better than raw pvc sheet, glues easier, takes paitn better) and we'll be stocking their full range in the start of 2014 FTI.
   
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Happy days, Antenociti! I am sure I will get some when you have it in stock!
   
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Their terrain is very nice and easy to assemble. It also has things like removable doors and windows. However, it is not the most durable stuff in the world. It is not like plasticcard. It is more like paper and foam.
   
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 spaceelf wrote:
Their terrain is very nice and easy to assemble. It also has things like removable doors and windows. However, it is not the most durable stuff in the world. It is not like plasticcard. It is more like paper and foam.


Really?

That...doesn't sound good.

   
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 Alpharius wrote:
 spaceelf wrote:
Their terrain is very nice and easy to assemble. It also has things like removable doors and windows. However, it is not the most durable stuff in the world. It is not like plasticcard. It is more like paper and foam.


Really?

That...doesn't sound good.


Considering how fragile minis are these days, it is not such a big deal that the scenery is not made of stone. I do not think that it would collapse under reasonable use. However, it will not hold up well to abuse of any kind, such as figure cases being piled on it.

It is not as fragile as the G.I. Joe Attack Glider, but that glider was a terrible idea. I suspect that many broke on their first flight.
   
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You guys know that MDF is almost paper as well don't you? As long as you take care of it it should survive it's intended purpose.

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Foamed-PVC is nothing like "paper and foam" - that's absolute hogwash: We've built entire tables from it ( http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/tw-game-on-g-o-t-table/tw-game-on-g-o-t-table/) and those buildings you can jump up and down on! I can see some raised edges above the roof-line on the Plastcraft designs that would bend with lateral stress, but to say its not durable or like "foam and paper" is entirely miss-leading and horribly inaccurate.

You can bend 2mm foamed-pvc which is why it was chosen to make curved surfaces...same reason we made that 30-odd inch tall tower from it...but to say it isnt durable is nonsense.

Can we say that your figures are 'not durable' and like "paper and foam" because you have to put them inside big heavy hard-plastic cases, wrapped in foam... other wise they get damaged too easily when you pile figure cases on them... oh, hang on a sec!

If somebody treated their figures like that the entire forum would laugh at them, but for scenery its a valid "complaint"? Come on... lets be serious here: you dump loads of weight on your high-detail figures why on earth would you treat your high-detail scenery like that?

There is nothing wrong with the durability of foamed-pvc, its a superb building material with many, many advantages over MDF and other materials, it is nothing at all like "foam and paper" and if you're going to treat your scenery like junk by piling stuff on top of it then, yeah, don't buy this stuff...but don't buy anything else either...nothing is going to be "durable" if treated so badly.

Foamed-pvc though is probably the best scenery-building material available on the market there is, bar none... that table from 5 years ago would not still be going if it wasnt durable.
   
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I kinda get the idea - figures I take care of personally, but scenery is often left at a store/club and those always have a buffoon or two ruining stuff.
Are you saying these buildings are at least as durable as, say, the MAS MDF Infinity stuff?
Honest question; I really don't have any experience with the stuff and 'foamed' plastics can vary greatly in density/strength with the same name still applied to all of them.
Basically what I'm getting from your post is that the only thing better would be actual HIPS/ABS terrain, durability-wise, and if that's not an option this is the strongest on the market?
   
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 Antenociti wrote:
Foamed-PVC is nothing like "paper and foam" - that's absolute hogwash: We've built entire tables from it ( http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/news/tw-game-on-g-o-t-table/tw-game-on-g-o-t-table/) and those buildings you can jump up and down on! I can see some raised edges above the roof-line on the Plastcraft designs that would bend with lateral stress, but to say its not durable or like "foam and paper" is entirely miss-leading and horribly inaccurate.

You can bend 2mm foamed-pvc which is why it was chosen to make curved surfaces...same reason we made that 30-odd inch tall tower from it...but to say it isnt durable is nonsense.

Can we say that your figures are 'not durable' and like "paper and foam" because you have to put them inside big heavy hard-plastic cases, wrapped in foam... other wise they get damaged too easily when you pile figure cases on them... oh, hang on a sec!

If somebody treated their figures like that the entire forum would laugh at them, but for scenery its a valid "complaint"? Come on... lets be serious here: you dump loads of weight on your high-detail figures why on earth would you treat your high-detail scenery like that?

There is nothing wrong with the durability of foamed-pvc, its a superb building material with many, many advantages over MDF and other materials, it is nothing at all like "foam and paper" and if you're going to treat your scenery like junk by piling stuff on top of it then, yeah, don't buy this stuff...but don't buy anything else either...nothing is going to be "durable" if treated so badly.

Foamed-pvc though is probably the best scenery-building material available on the market there is, bar none... that table from 5 years ago would not still be going if it wasnt durable.

I respect your opinion, and you obviously have a lot of experience with the material. However, there are obviously different thinknesses/types of foamed PVC. Have you handled the Plast Craft terrain? I have, and I did not think that it was durable. I suppose in time we will all find out based on usage.



   
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Wait a second... isn't PVC what the plastic bottles used to hold super glue are made of? Isn't it resistant to most solvents other than tetrahydrofuran?


 
   
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I think the guys at the store used superglue, and they had no problem with it. They also primed it without issue.
   
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So let´s try to be constructive. What makes you think that? Or is that a secret so you won´t tell me? (that´s an insider, don´t ask, people)

I do like the terrain very well for Infinity as the style works better then the Mantic Terrain for example. It offers well working elements (gameplay wise, for example the choice to open or close doors and windows) for a very decent price imho. With a different paintsheme then the official one the terrian looks awesome.

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You know, it might make for some interesting Tau terrain as well, with the curves.



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Kroothawk wrote:This range makes Mantic terrain look professional and detailed

Saphos wrote:So let´s try to be constructive. What makes you think that?

This range is basically flat plasticard walls of one standard size with almost no details on the walls. Only three variants: Solid, window, door, that's why all "buildings" have open doors on first floor leading nowhere. If you call stacks of cubes a building that is.

Mantic gives you one extra window wall and one half-open wall in addition, with a bit more flat details:


For just a couple of dollars, you get better quality from Tehnolog, Russia:




If stacking modular boxes is enough terrain for you, here are some real alternatives:
Micro Art:


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If you want real modern SciFi buildings, options are still a bit rare but here some examples:
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Nice idea for starting the thread Kan.

Really like the clean look and lines of this terrain. Don't think it's that unreasonably priced, considering the price of some of the MDF stuff. And if you have an airbrush can see that taking paint a lot more easily (and with a smoother finish) than the MDF.

 Bolognesus wrote:
I kinda get the idea - figures I take care of personally, but scenery is often left at a store/club and those always have a buffoon or two ruining stuff.
Are you saying these buildings are at least as durable as, say, the MAS MDF Infinity stuff?
Honest question; I really don't have any experience with the stuff and 'foamed' plastics can vary greatly in density/strength with the same name still applied to all of them.
Basically what I'm getting from your post is that the only thing better would be actual HIPS/ABS terrain, durability-wise, and if that's not an option this is the strongest on the market?


Did you not read the post above yours mate? And I refuse to believe that post was written faster than yours, and wasn't there when you clicked on 'reply' !

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