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What army would work for a counts as tyranids fantasy army

I'd bet the closest would be Skaven

Or Vampire Counts/Tomb Kings.

Slaneesh Daemons. Possibly even Khorne. Wouldn't count Beastmen out either.

thanks for the suggestions but i don't know how those armies play. a brief explanation would be awesome

Beastmen actually fit well when you look at weapons/ units in comparison. But the mindless-ness of Tyranids fits better (thematically) with Daemons, Skaven, or Undead.

Beastmen have decent fighting Core (Gors) who have two hand weapons--so Hormagaunts

Cheap (poor) shooting Core (Ungor raiders)-- so Termagaunts

Lots of freaky monsters (1 that can shoot!) -- insert whatever creature you want to from Tyranids

A monster sized Lord/ hero choice that you could make flying (flyrant/ hive tyrant)

Monstrous infantry (Minotaurs)-- Tyranid Warriors/ Guard

Interesting cavalry (Centigors)-- Ravenars

and some great solo monstrous beasts (Razorgors)-- use any reasonably sized tyranid creature.

I can't think of something to use for Bestigors (guys with huge axes) from the Tyranid range or what Genestealers could be subbed in for, but you could play with the idea!

Skaven aren't mindless but they are incredibly ferocious and violent in great teeming hordes.

I don't think I'd say they are too much like tyranids though. Skaven or at least skaven-slaves are like a bunch of butt naked conscripts with little daggers in infinite swarms being forced to take down much larger things. There are more of them though and skaven care less and will actually fire weapons into them if they feel like it (usually to hurt an enemy at least a little bit). Skaven-slaves are even more expendable than conscripts though. It's basically what imperial guard commanders would think of their worst trained soldiers if they had many more of them and cared infinitely less.

I do see having problems trying to rank them up without modifying the models, although thats not what you were asking.


I would say beasts or skaven personally.

I'd go beasts.
Any army on 20mm square bases you can just toss out the window. Tyranids won't fit.
Beastmen have a good range of 25mm, cav, chariot, 40mm and monsters that you can adapt a tyranid army to it without too much trouble.

Another option might be warriors of chaos.
You could use genestealers as forsaken, and build chariots with a Tyranid Warrior (whip and sword) pulled by hormagaunts.
Chariot pulled by tyrant guard could be Gorebeast Chariot.
Flying Tyrant is a Daemon Prince, zoanthrope could be a champion on a disc of tzeench.
The new Exocrine would make a bitching hell cannon.
Warriors/Reavers could fill in as trolls or chaos ogres.
Hormagaunts can be chaos hounds.

If you can build the new tyrant guard less upright, you could mount a warrior on them for counts as skullcrusher cav.

Visually, I don't think it would be hard for an opponent to figure out what everything is, which I think is very important in a project like this.

WoC or Slaanesh is a pretty good idea, I agree.

My friend made an amazing hellcannon out of the tyranid guy with a cannon on his back.

Ogres - they want to eat everything too!

Eldercaveman wrote:
Ogres - they want to eat everything too!

Not a bad idea, warriors and larger would probably be easier to rank up, and needing less of them always helps.

I may actually do this a bit since I have a ton of 'nids that rarely see light, and would not mind having an alt Fantasy army.

Time to re-read Ogres!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Lizardmen because of the similar shaped bodies. I always thought that Gants and Skinks were shaped pretty similarly.

Actually for Ogres you could have Lictors running in the back field as Gorgers and the larger monsters as Thunder tusks/ Stone horns

Genestealers as Sabretooths. Then run warriors as your bulls, iron guts.

Hive Guard as leadbelchers.

Carnifex as Mournfangs

Hive Tyrant as Tyrants

Another option is to mount Tyranid Rippers individually on 20mm bases.
Those would make great skinks.
Then use warriors as kroxigor, and you've got the start of a very good lizardman army.

Hive Guard as Bastiladon, hormagaunts as saurus, genestealers as templeguard. Pyrovores as salamanders and biovores as razordons.
Gargoyles could fill both ripperdactyle (modeled with scything talons) or terradons (with guns).
Carnifex as Steggadons.
Zoanthrope as Slaan.

-Matt

Ravenar can maybe squeeze on cav base to be Scar vet cowboy?

Hive Tyrant could be Old Blood on Carno

You guys have been super helpful with model and armies but I'm having some trouble getting my head around the fluff of some of them like skaven and lizardmen

Dark elves- repeater crossbows, those guard guys with 2 weapons, dragons and hydras for big bugs..... God i wanna do dark elves oh and their fast

headset313 wrote:
You guys have been super helpful with model and armies but I'm having some trouble getting my head around the fluff of some of them like skaven and lizardmen

That's why Ogres works!

Plus no one really makes that connection, until it is pointed out. You'll be such a hipster.

headset313 wrote:
You guys have been super helpful with model and armies but I'm having some trouble getting my head around the fluff of some of them like skaven and lizardmen

What do you mean, exactly?

Skaven are rats, grown out of all proportion and cunning by the twisting forces of chaos. They are violent, cowardly, and hopelessly paranoid. The Council of Thirteen attempts to govern the teeming masses, so as to overrun the world above, and finally establish themselves as the rightful rulers of all.
Key thematic concepts: Russian Nazis, steampunk, Frankenstein, 13, ninjas, disease, religious fanatics, cowardice.

The Lizardmen were created by the Old Ones who came to this world on their great Star Ships. They are enigmatic, brutal, and dedicated. The Slaan Mage Priests meditate over the Great Plan of the Old Ones, determined to set the world to rights and push back the encroaching Chaos.
Key thematic concepts: Aztecs, pre-Iron Age, savage, poison, dinosaurs, cold-blooded, patient-yet-ferocious.

...does that help?

Beastmen are a wild horde of half monster/ half man creatures that want to kill humans, dedicate statues of remains/ feces to their evil gods and creators...

They are swarms of brutal warriors and savage hunters.

i could have phrased that better I was trying to ask how would you go about mixing the fluff so that the monsters made some sense

people seem sold on lizzies but what about orc and goblins?

Animosity is surely the closest thing to synapse out there. random actions may happen unless black orc bosses quell it (sound like synapse to anyone else?)

gobbos are gants
orcs are genetseatlers
Black orcs are warriors (well synapse)
then your have lots of big boyz like araknaroks, manglars etc both carnifexes
Spider/wolf riders/chariots for raveners?
rock lobbas and doom divers, kinda like exocrines?

And if anybody, grimgor ironhide is a combat monster, kinda like the swarmlord.

people may disagree, but thats my thoughts.

Plus orcs multiple and spread like a virus, only concerned with consuming civilisation and laying it to ruin.

I'm liking Ogres. A horde that sweeps across the landscape eating everything in it's path. Sound similar?

Ogre Tyrant, (Hive Tyrant squeezed on to 40mm)
Bruiser: Tyranid Prime
Hunter: Tyranid Prime with venom cannon
Butcher/Slaughtermaster: Zoanthrope
Fire Belly: Pyrovore

Core:
Ogre: Tyranid Warrior
Iron Gut: Hive Guard
Gnoblar/trapper: Ripper swarm modeled on 20mm base

Special:
Leadbeltcher: Biovore
Maneater: Tyranid Warrior(primes), with proper gear
Gorger: Lictor
Sabretusks: Hormagaunts
Mournfangs: Raveners

Rares:
Giant: Mawlock
Stone Horn: Trygon
Thundertusk: Carnifex
Scrap Launcher: ???
Iron Blaster: Exocrine


With that mix, you can make just about any Ogre list you wanted, and it would be pretty easy for opponents to figure out what things do.


-Matt

Vampire counts.

Vampire lord on zombie dragon for a hive tyrant.

Take a block of skeletons or ghouls or even zombies and use hormaguants as the basic troops, throw in a cheap necromancer and use a tervigon as unit filler. completely accurate in how that unit keeps spawning more little beasties.

Take a harpy or a hive crone as a terror geist.

Use Lictors as hex wraiths the possibilities are endless and nothing really plays as much like swarm nids on a battlefield as vampires.

At first I disliked this idea, because I fall into the "seperate universes" camp. But painting up some genestealers today, well, honestly I wouldn't mind using them in a game where they can actually fight stuff!

With Tyranids though, you've got either a genestealer infestation/vanguard organisms thing or the full blown hive fleet. I don't see Fantasy surviving a full on hive fleet, so I'm wondering what would best represent a Genestealer/Vanguard force?

This would be a mixture of different generations of Genestealer cultists;
~Nearly perfect humans/elves/whatever
~more human hybrids (claw hand or something)
~more mutant hybrids
~pure genestealer
~mutating ymgarl genestealer
~broodlord

Lictors would also be mint, even if that would push it out of Genestealer cult and into the beginnings of a vanguard, as would rippers because hell, I like rippers

Any idea what army would best suit both Genestealers and their infected cultist brethren? Ogres would make for good stealers perhaps, but I can't see them doing well for the cultists

Just paint them up a a demons force.

Cannon monsters = Skillcannons.

Hive Tyrant = Greater Daemon.

Broodlord = Herald.

Gaunts = Horrors/Daemonettes

Genestealers = 'Letters/Plaguebearers

Tyrant Guard = Bloodcrushers.

Stuff like that.