Mierce Miniatures Darklands Ongoing News and Rumors Thread! Darklands Rulebook ships on April 18!

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**ulgurstasta**

Those Khthones look super sweet! Guess we will have to wait for a future kickstarter for them though.

**RoninXiC**

Damn you.
Pledge 60 pounds :(

**zedmeister**

Demi's unlocked! We've just passed £37,500

**Looky Likey**

Now I've seen the Kthones I've dipped in!

**Bossk_Hogg**

Hopefully they get bumped to the front of the queue for Metal Age 2 in October (or whenever). Then the new kindreds 2nd units, vras, maybe some more infernii.

**RoninXiC**

No idea what I'll get though.. many choices are amazing.

**GiraffeX**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:From the comments

Creator Mierce Miniatures 2 minutes ago

Right - just so you all know - the November shipping [Metal Age] starter hosts will be removed from the store at the end of August, so that we can lock in the work for the caster. The others will be removed later of course.

so now we know

(and I suspect Rob won't be able to be as flexible with these as he tend to be with other stuff since there will be an outside contactor with their own production slots to consider)

Mierce Miniatures wrote:Orlando is correct here - the caster needs to know numbers...

Thanks for that I need to update by Darklands purchase spreadsheet with that date, I find it hard keeping track of what I want

Rob do you have a date for when the Wave 10 metals need to be submitted by?

Looks like metal wave 9 is going to conflict with wave 8 as they are going to be taken off the store at about the same time, well thats If the minis I'm after are sculpted on time.

**chaos45**

I almost got in on this kickstarter but im still waiting for items to be delivered from a year ago now.

So once my first order is completed I'll think about jumping in on newer kickstarters....a year is a long time to wait.

My order was supposed to have been finished by Wave 5- February 2015...still waiting on a fair number of items.

So when my last 100+ pounds worth of items shows up I might be interested in buying more stuff until then I will sit and watch.

**Alpharius**

OK!

So, what are you waiting for exactly anyway?

**chaos45**

**zedmeister**

Chaos45, Ouch! Looks like you've got the outstanding delayed sculpts. Luckily, the Warriors of Baalor are now being casted and being sent out in the next wave.

Good news though as the Rhyfelwr and the Demilegionaries have recently been assigned to a new sculptor - Yannick Hennebo! So hopefully, we'll see some WiPs in the coming weeks.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

The Teulu and the Legionaries are also done and shipping so if you've paid for wave 7/8 they should be on the way soon

**cincydooley**

Sounds like you didn't pay for spilt shipping.

**plastictrees**

I've been consistently receiving product since I backed the first KS and there are few KS with comparably reliable communication and updates, which is why have no problem throwing money at them on a semi-annual basis.

It's great to be a part of million dollar projects that just blow up, and to contribute to neat ideas made reality, but there's something special about being a small part in making something of the depth and breadth of the Darklands universe a reality.

I might even put a model together at some point.

**decker_cky**

cincydooley wrote:
Sounds like you didn't pay for spilt shipping.

If you read his original complaint, it's that he's coming up to 5 months late for the delivery of the last of what should have been released there.

That said, Rob mentioned at one point in the KS comments that he expects to have all the KS releases aside from new kindreds and this past one completed within 3 months (planning another KS for then):

@JL - Oct... one every three months. By then, FE1, FE2, MM and both BB should be done, leaving just NK and this one.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-metal-age/comments?cursor=10528124#comment-10528123

**cincydooley**

decker_cky wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Sounds like you didn't pay for spilt shipping.

If you read his original complaint, it's that he's coming up to 5 months late for the delivery of the last of what should have been released there.

I read it.

Over half his list has been released. He simply hasn't received it yet because it's waiting on (what looks to be) one more unit.

He's welcome to pay additional shipping to receive the bulk of it now.

**RiTides**

How do any of you track what has / hasn't been released? I was considering a unit the other day, google'd it, and got the "this entry is restricted for your level of user access" page on the Mierce site. So many things seem to be stuck in "Kickstarter only" limbo for a really long time... I'm glad folks here are willing to add them on for others, but for most people that means they don't even know those models exist!

I know I've beat that drum, but especially with fantasy going into the nether, it's a great time to be trying to get wider adoption of the game. I actually really like the move to metal infantry by Mierce, to make them more competitively priced, so they are moving in the right direction! But as someone who only follows them somewhat attentively (but probably still more than the vast majority of gamers who don't check forums) I find it very difficult to know what can be bought, what belongs to which faction, etc.

The rulebook, of course, should help a ton with this, and maybe some site organization... but if people like me who are paying some attention have little idea what's going on, for outsiders it must be really opaque.

That said, if the Savrar unit is in the next campaign I'm 100% in for it, so there's that

**cincydooley**

I have to look all the time, If i'm being honest. I keep a spreadsheet to remind me when stuff releases, but I'm not always great about keeping it updated.

**RiTides**

Ah, well that's actually very reassuring, at least

. Here I was thinking you're all wargaming Einsteins!

**cincydooley**

RiTides wrote:
Ah, well that's actually very reassuring, at least . Here I was thinking you're all wargaming Einsteins!

Alph got me hooked on the wargaming inventory excel. It's a godsend.

It's also an embarrassing record of my addiction.

**decker_cky**

RiTides wrote:
How do any of you track what has / hasn't been released? I was considering a unit the other day, google'd it, and got the "this entry is restricted for your level of user access" page on the Mierce site. So many things seem to be stuck in "Kickstarter only" limbo for a really long time... I'm glad folks here are willing to add them on for others, but for most people that means they don't even know those models exist!

I know I've beat that drum, but especially with fantasy going into the nether, it's a great time to be trying to get wider adoption of the game. I actually really like the move to metal infantry by Mierce, to make them more competitively priced, so they are moving in the right direction! But as someone who only follows them somewhat attentively (but probably still more than the vast majority of gamers who don't check forums) I find it very difficult to know what can be bought, what belongs to which faction, etc.

The rulebook, of course, should help a ton with this, and maybe some site organization... but if people like me who are paying some attention have little idea what's going on, for outsiders it must be really opaque.

That said, if the Savrar unit is in the next campaign I'm 100% in for it, so there's that

It's confusing, particularly with delays to the initial schedule. But Mierce doesn't release stuff all at once as part of his strategy to grow the game - each month, he only officially releases on unit for each kindred, so there's always a stream of new stuff, but he doesn't overwhelm stores carrying Mierce.

**skullking**

decker_cky wrote:

That said, Rob mentioned at one point in the KS comments that he expects to have all the KS releases aside from new kindreds and this past one completed within 3 months (planning another KS for then):

@JL - Oct... one every three months. By then, FE1, FE2, MM and both BB should be done, leaving just NK and this one.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-metal-age/comments?cursor=10528124#comment-10528123

I believe this is entirely possible, but there are a few things which still need to be worked out which could hold things up.

Someone has to sculpt Reoc's pack , that has been in limbo for awhile.

They have to work out whatever is happening with that one descendent that there's no artwork or anything for. (I think this was Max's second one, not sure what the deal was with this)

Roberto Chaudon has a lot to do. The majority of stuff that still needs to be finished from MM is all Roberto, plus he has to do reg Srok from the FE2 ks. He's amazing, which is why he's so busy. I (and probably most of the rest of us waiting for these models) would not change this at all. I WILL WAIT FOR ROBERTO!

There's still 3 infantry units which need to be sculpted for FE2. I think the same person is sculpting all of them digitally, which seems to take forever compared to hand sculpting. But I'm willing to be proven wrong.

The first 3 Darklands KS (WaW, FE, FE2) were BIG (for Mierce). There was a lot of sculpting that needed to happen to get through these, and the subsequent KS have suffered for it. Even though MM was a smaller one, there were specific artists attached to the models, and that can delay things. Dan, and Roberto being two of the most busy. Thankfully Aragorn stepped in to deal with Oso, and a few items from other KS before delving full on into NK. And Tim Prow has been killing it on the Banebeasts side.

I think it's ambitious to think that it could all be sculpted by October, but hey, who knows!?

**Bossk_Hogg**

Also hoping with the move to metal they can get it in more stores. I remember The Warstore was carrying it, but said it was hard to fill orders due to the cast time. From what I understand you have to babysit resin more. I think Rob hinted some units in particular, like the Warriors of Baalor, were a pain in the ass to cast. It sounds like whatever foundry they got to do the metals in gave them a swinging deal. Like I said, the cost per figure of a 10 man unit is considerably less per figure than what reaper charges for a metal 30mm fig. Age of Sigmar looks like an even bigger joke than GW's normal rules, so now is a good time for other fantasy skirmish games to strike.

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skullking wrote:

There's still 3 infantry units which need to be sculpted for FE2. I think the same person is sculpting all of them digitally, which seems to take forever compared to hand sculpting. But I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Yannik Hennebo took over the Rhyfelwr and Demilegionaries , and is doing them in traditional sculpts. That guy works fast from what we've seen, and bangs out some quality work, so they all should be done in a couple months I expect. Valentin Zak is still doing the Albainn Gairlom digitally. I think he's done 1-2, but apparently is tied up with something else and will be done in October.

**highlord tamburlaine**

I've had a pretty easy time telling what's ready and what's not.

If I see scales in an update on something, then I know I'll be getting something to look forward to soon.

Maybe wait and pay for ___ wave shipping when a fair amount of items are ready that you've purchased/ are interested in?

Considering we're pretty well kept in the loop when each wave is going to be shipping, and what will be in it, going forward that might be an idea if you order tons of stuff.

Still want to see more reptiles get converted in the Banebeasts line...

**zedmeister**

Bossk_Hogg wrote:

Yannik Hennebo took over the Rhyfelwr and Demilegionaries , and is doing them in traditional sculpts. That guy works fast from what we've seen, and bangs out some quality work, so they all should be done in a couple months I expect. Valentin Zak is still doing the Albainn Gairlom digitally. I think he's done 1-2, but apparently is tied up with something else and will be done in October.

Valentin has just been assigned them to work on. He's the sculptor that's just nailed the Erainn, so I'm looking forward to what he can do with these!

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

To keep track of what's done and what's in progress take a look at all that stuff at the end of each KS update on kickstarter eg from First Edition II

Here's what we think will ship when. Anything that's not likely to be done in time for Wave 7 has been pushed to Wave 8.

We'll keep this list updated every Friday.
• SHIPMENT WAVE 0: complete for this project.

• SHIPMENT WAVE 4 (beginning November): Skyclad Ciniod - Skyclad Itaina - Gomagg - Sweordsman Timoth - Cæna - Forwyn Carys - Feral Agathae - Tykho - Helmed Naraa - Marked Galagaak - Craven Fiends of Dis (Kaius - Drubal - Bacchus - Kolkhus - Luco) - Kill-Head Flint-Fang - Akkaz - Sáthach - Uhtred on Horse
• SHIPMENT WAVE 5 (beginning February): Oghu Guardians (Grubog - Pabogg- Drudd - Skrugadd - Undagg) - Gromi (Gromi - Gromi with two cleavers - Armoured Gromi with two cleavers) - Ravener Birna - Trolls of Töheim, Armoured Troll Unit (Vörtun, Gjöll, Unnolg, Gurrir, Nisurl)
• SHIPMENT WAVE 6 (beginning April): Oghu Keepers (Brugbad - Dungabad - Lobeg- Bogad - Rubeg) - Young Magágg - Tonsured Caedoc - Loyal Guard, Teulu Unit (Cynog - Lleu Gryf - Gerallt - Dafydd - Emyr) - Parawn - Brunchaath on Gooracx - Enslaved Ágriosávra - Thórrir - Hrókr - Corpse Takers, Hrafnmann Unit (Gríminn - Ormrinn - Agni - Oddr - Kolskári)
• SHIPMENT WAVE 7 (beginning June): The Eye Ascendant, Warriors of Baalor Unit (Aanan - Ulaan - Lungaarn - Coraat - Paara) - Khallas - Abhorrents of Ys (Gorz - Kell - Rulguss - Ingenga - Zunur)
• SHIPMENT WAVE 8 (beginning August): Umaer Drast - Spears of Dun Durn, Gairlom Unit (Brusta - Nectan - Fidaich - Oinuist - Smertae) - Armoured Hrōr - Eoric's Pack (Eoric - Sigebald - Heoruvard - Rædwulf - Wealdhere) - Rēoc's Pack (Rēoc - Brega - Hædo) - Geraint on Ceffyldraig - Warriors of Dyngonwy, Rhyfelwr Unit - Quintus Crito - In III Judas - Srók - Slaughterers (Megálávra - Vókkinak - Okkáv - Brudok - Maskó) - Ax-Crom - Flesh-Scavengers (Gondard - Ekk - Yrag - Bil - Flesh-Pile) - Shadows of Carn Bran (Cador - Gawen - Massen - Kitto - Santoc) - Max Schüte's second Descendant

Items in bold will DEFINITELY be sent in that wave as we have the sculpt; items in italics are in progress and should make it into that wave, but we don't yet have the sculpt.

copy paste onto Dakka tends to loose the BOLD and ITALICS but they are important

BOLD = finished and in Mierce's hands
ITALICS = being worked on by the assigned sculptor (or in the post to Mierce)
Normal Text = yet to be started

**Yodhrin**

Those lizards, holy balls

I saw the sculpts and they were impressive, but I never realised exactly how impressive until I saw them on those 30mm bases - they're teeny-weeny! I had the impression they were GW-Ogre-ish sized based on the level of detail of the greens. I'm usually a pretty human-centric collector, not many alien/fantasy critter species appeal to me except as adversaries, but damn. I was already planning to put together a few Mierce-based warbands for an Albion-setting Mordheim campaign, now I have to try and figure out how to include a tribe of Lizardmen because dayum son those models are gettin' bought.

**Bolognesus**

FYI, the current Savrar are on 40mm, not 30mm bases.

**ulgurstasta**

Do we have any scale shot of the current savrar? I would love if they where more human sized, but looking at their bases they seem to be almost ogre-sized.

**RiTides**

I have this picture here (using them as counts-as gatormen posse for Hordes). I can't take further pictures until they come back from Ramos Asura, who is painting them!

Spoiler:

Those are 40mm bases, but you can see they don't have a lot of bulk to them, and Eikovra and Myrkanio are quite crouched down. Agriosavra is standing taller and really makes the others look a bit small, but none of them are bulky like ogres - they're very lithe, just take up a lot of space due to their poses (and tails in particular) so wouldn't fit on 30mm bases.

Also note that the big unit of metal models in this pic are shorter than an average 28mm human. But hopefully the bases (40mm for the savrar, 30mm for the metal models) give an idea of scale.

However, part of the reason I'm excited for a metal savrar unit is because these characters come in a zillion pieces each and are some of the hardest models to put together that I've ever attempted! But size-wise, I'm thrilled with them