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Hello! What lists are there that have [majority?] of units that could be used in both mid and late war companies for British and Germany? I would like to conserve $ as well as potentially setup some sort of mid to late war campaign with some friends.

For mid-war, I was hoping specifically from just the North Africa rulebook.

Thanks everyone!

Most of the list in Fortress Europe cross over, though they are somewhat generic. It really does depend on what you classify as the cross over point between Mid and Late.

If you are using British and German I guess you are going for Western Front which makes things a bit more difficult as 'mid' war tends to mean Africa and the Mediterranean and 'late' as North West Europe. There were a few differences between the British armys to the found in the two theaters in terms of both uniform and equipment.

I can't speak definitively as to the British, but for Germans (and the Soviets, whom I also play) the lists with the most transferable units are likely going yo be infantry lists. Platoon composition stays the same, excepting better AT weapons on the command teams, common support weapons (HMG's, mortars, nebelwerfers, 10.5cm tube artillery) are identical in LW and MW, and the Pak40 ATG is excellent in both periods. Tank lists will tend to have the least viability for overlap as most MW tanks just can't compete in LW, and those that can are ridiculously high priced in MW. Doesn't mean you shouldn't start two tank companies, one for each period, as it still might be cheaper (and much quicker to paint!) than building an infantry list that is MW and LW compatible.

For Brits in LW and MW there are a lot of crossover infantry units, you PBI, 6pdrs, mortars, HMG's, 25pdrs etc cross over. Tanks is a bit tougher, towards the end of MW you get churchills and shermans, but not the variants like fireflies and Churchill VII tanks. And the tanks are a lot of points too.

If I was trying to do Brits for both I'd do an infantry force and then add a seperate tank unit or two for each era, plastic shermans are easily available.

For the Germans if you consider a panzer force (panzer 3's and 4's ) you can do an Africa list for MW and a HG list from 'fortress Italy' with the same models pretty easily

Unless I'm very much mistaken the British used the M4 Sherman in Italy and the M4A4 in France so if you are a stickler for historical accuracy you can't really use the same Shermans for both.

Infantry lists are probably your best bet.

Just checking overlord frequently units are listed as either Sherman II or V and same in the new Italian compilation.

Plus the differences are purely cosmetic - depends how much you care about accuracy vs variety of lists from the same set of models.




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Just checking the North Africa PDF for Italy and Africa you have options of Sherman 3's and 5's vs 2's and 3's respectively - so not much fuss a Sherman being a sherman

Fair enough, like I say it's only an issue for the rivet counters anyway.

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Just checking overlord frequently units are listed as either Sherman II or V and same in the new Italian compilation.

Road to Rome is a late war book. Mid war Italy would be in the North Africa book.