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Hi guys, had an idea for an army which includes a big block of Longbeards tearing up the middle with some Gyro's and then Bugman and 27 Rangers starting 13" away from the enemy. Essentially this means 27 Strength 5 throwing axes a turn at BS4. And if the enemy charge them they have great weapons and a good chance of being stubborn thrown into the mix.

Let me know what you thing!

Lord: Rune Of Might 2; Magnificent Armour Of Borek Beetlebrow; Rune Of Furnace; Shieldbearers; Shield. 313

Josef Bugman 165
Runesmith: Rune Of Spellbreaking 2; Shield. 108
Thane: Rune Of Iron 2; Shield; BSB. 138

37 Longbeards: Old Guard; Musician; Standard Bearer (Strollaz' Rune). 509

Gyrocopter 80
Gyrocopter: Vanguard. 100
Cannon 120

27 Bugman's Rangers: Ol'Deadeye; Musician; Standard Bearer; Shields. 486

1,998 points

I do like the Ranger theme, and it's nice being able to take 2 units of them in this book, rather than one as before.

Those throwing axes are only 6" range, they'll rarely see use over the Rangers crossbow. Even for Stand and Shoot reaction, there's the crossbows Dwarven Crafted rule to take into account.

Your Longbeards should have Shields or Great Weapons. You've given then neither, can't see them achieving much.

That armour is a waste on your Lord. He comes with a 2+ just for having shield bearers, and the ward save can't be used at all times, You can get hime a proper ward save for cheaper. The shield is wasted points as it does exactly nothing in this set up. Can't parry with a magic weapon, armour is already at 1+.

With your army Vanguarding/Scouting/Flying you'll leave your poor cannon undefended for the first small squad of fast cav to get an easy kill.

Stick with the ranger theme, but I think it's back to the drawing board with this list I'm afraid.

Actually, I would imagine the cannon would only NEED to make one or two shots and then it's job is done. It's just there to take out monsters or warmachines; after that everything should be in CC anyway.

Sometimes a sacrifice must be made for the greater good.

I've been kicking around a similar idea for 2500 points (the standard in this area), but focusing on shooting more than anything.

The points are set, yet, but it's something like this:

Bugman
Engineer Special Character
2xRunesmiths

45 Greatweapon Quarrellers in two units

19 buff-Rangers
20 Irondrakes w/Vanguard

2xGrudgethrowers
2xCannon
As many 'Copters as I can get

Was thinking bout subbing either a runesmith or the engineer SC for a Thane BSB with one or two Slowness runes to join the 'Drakes, but not sure. Haven't nailed down the runes on the warmachines yet.

I think the Magnificent Armour Of Borek Beetlebrow can't be modified so it would be pointless to take a shield, unless all you want it for is the potential parry save