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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/

Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Ukrainian and Israeli media.

Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website.





Sounds like it's time to start killing people (in East Ukraine, obviously).

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Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Ukrainian and Israeli media.

Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website.

Donetsk is the site of an "anti-terrorist" operation by the Ukraine government, which has moved military columns into the region to force out militants who are demanding a referendum be held on joining Russia. The news was carried first by the Ukraine's Donbass news agency.

The leaflets bore the name of Denis Pushilin, who identified himself as chairman of "Donetsk's temporary government," and were distributed near the Donetsk synagogue and other areas, according to the reports.

Pushilin acknowledged that fliers were distributed under his organization's name in Donetsk but denied any connection to them, Ynet reported in Hebrew.

Emanuel Shechter, in Israel, told Ynet his friends in Donetsk sent him a copy of the leaflet through social media.

"They told me that masked men were waiting for Jewish people after the Passover eve prayer, handed them the flier and told them to obey its instructions," he said.

The leaflet begins, "Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality," and states that all people of Jewish descent over 16 years old must report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and "register."

It says the reason is because the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported Bendery Junta, a reference to Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement that fought for Ukrainian independence at the end of World War II, "and oppose the pro-Slavic People's Republic of Donetsk," a name adopted by the militant leadership.

The leaflet then described which documents Jews should provide: "ID and passport are required to register your Jewish religion, religious documents of family members, as well as documents establishing the rights to all real estate property that belongs to you, including vehicles."

Consequences for non-compliance will result in citizenship being revoked "and you will be forced outside the country with a confiscation of property." A registration fee of $50 would be required, it said.

Olga Reznikova, 32, a Jewish resident of Donetsk, told Ynet she never experienced anti-Semitism in the city until she saw this leaflet.

"We don't know if these notifications were distributed by pro-Russian activists or someone else, but it's serious that it exists," she said. "The text reminds of the fascists in 1941," she said referring to the Nazis who occupied Ukraine during World War II.

The Jewish community in Donetsk issued in a statement saying the flyers distribution "smells like a provocation."

"Who is behind this is an open question," Rabbi Pinkhas Vishedski said in the statement, according to CNN. Vishedski said they are a provocation "and should be treated accordingly ... full stop and end of topic."

Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, the oldest pro-Israel group in the USA, said the leaflets should be seen in the context of a rising tide of anti-Semitism across Europe and the world, and that it should prompt a strong response from the White House.

"This is a frightening new development in the anti-Jewish movement that is gaining traction around the world," Klein said.

U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt called the leaflets "the real deal," and not representative of the Ukraine's government in Kiev.

Secretary of State John Kerry called the incident "grotesque."

"It is beyond unacceptable," Kerry said. "And any of the people who engage in these kinds of activities — from whatever party or whatever ideology or whatever place they crawl out of — there is no place for that."

Kerry participated Thursday in a conference on the Ukraine crisis with his counterparts from Russia, Ukraine and the European Union. The parties issued a statement saying "The participants strongly condemned and rejected all expressions of extremism, racism and religious intolerance, including anti-semitism."

Michael Salberg, director of the international affairs at the New York City-based Anti-Defamation League, said it's unclear whether the leaflets were issued by the pro-Russian leadership or a splinter group operating within the pro-Russian camp.

But the Russian side has used the specter of anti-Semitism in a cynical manner since anti-government protests began in Kiev that resulted in the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian former president Viktor Yanukovych. Russia and its allies in Ukraine issued multiple stories about the the threat posed to Jews by Ukraine's new pro-Western government in Kiev, Salberg said.

Those stories were based in part on ultra-nationalists who joined the Maidan protests, and the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in Ukraine's new interim government. But the threat turned out to be false, he said.

Svoboda's leadership needs to be monitored, but so far it has refrained from anti-Semitic statements since joining the government, he said. And the prevalence of anti-Semitic acts has not changed since before the Maidan protests, according to the ADL and the Ukrainian Helsinki Human Rights Union, which monitors human rights in Ukraine.

Distributing such leaflets is a recruitment tool to appeal to the xenophobic fears of the majority, "to enlist them to your cause and focus on a common enemy, the Jews," Salberg said.

And by targeting Donetsk's Jews, they also send a message to all the region's residents, Salberg said.

"The message is a message to all the people that is we're going to exert our power over you," he said. "Jews are the default scapegoat throughout history for despots to send a message to the general public: Don't step out of line."


Pretty crazy.

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"This is a frightening new development in the anti-Jewish movement that is gaining traction around the world," Klein said


I will have to call BS on that though. What world wide anti-Jewish movement is that? The one that's against Israel? A state, not a people. People don't dislike Israel for being Jewish, they dislike Israel because they do dickish things and should know better.

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Read about this early this morning. Chilling stuff, it's like the events preceding Babi Yar all over again, in the same damn country too.

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Well between this and the shootings in Florida this has turned out to be quite a week for our Jewish brothers and sisters.

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This is a bit off topic, but nobody ever mentions how in early 1939 the Ukrainians commited mass genocides upon the Polish minority (which was around 20% at the time) in the name of nationalism, so they would have no problem in doing that to the Jews.
You cant blame everything on the Russians, a lot of the stuff in Ukraine is (unsuprisingly) their own doing.

As a side note the city of Kiev was mentioned to be the birthplace of what is now the Russian Orthodox church, which is not exacly well know for tolerance.

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Ironic with the Russians using the ultra nationalist/fascist elements of the Ukrainian government as a way to stir up trouble in the region...

Meh, I guess Israel'll happily take on some more immigrants. There's already a large Eastern European population there, and its not as if they're friends with the Russians in any case. =P

   
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This is a bit off topic, but nobody ever mentions how in early 1939 the Ukrainians committed mass genocides upon the Polish minority (which was around 20% at the time) in the name of nationalism, so they would have no problem in doing that to the Jews.


Because events 75 years ago are obviously going to be repeated simply because they occurred in the same country. A firm grip on reality is a wonderful thing.

Russia's insistence that Ukraine is run by fascists and bandits is becoming dangerously close to satire.


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He should have briefed the Russian 'volunteers' more thoroughly before he sent them over the border.

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People don't dislike Israel for being Jewish, they dislike Israel because they do dickish things and should know better.

Well, actually a bunch of people dislike Israel for being Jewish, another bunch of them dislike it for doing what they think is dickish things, and I am pretty sure the huge majority of people that dislike Israel actually never gave it a second thought, and just followed the flow.

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People don't dislike Israel for being Jewish, they dislike Israel because they do dickish things and should know better.

Well, actually a bunch of people dislike Israel for being Jewish


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It's hardly the whole world though, as the article implies.

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This is a very worrying development.

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"The flyers were official-looking documents that carried what was presented as Pushilin’s signature, but the news site tvrain.ru on Wednesday quoted Pushilin as denying any connection to the flyers, calling them a provocation."

"In an interview with Ukrainian press, Pushilin confirmed that the flyers, marked with the emblem of his organization, were really distributed in Donetsk. But unlike various English translations, in the original interview with Ukrainian media, Pushilin not only rejected the content of the flyers, but also denied that his organization was behind their printing. “Some idiots yesterday were giving out these flyers in targeted areas,” he said, claiming that he had never himself used the “people’s governor” title the flyer bestows on him. Pushilin did not suggest who else may have been handing out the anti-Semetic flyers, but went on to criticize the original site for posting it online. "

This is what I find fishy about this situation. I have read about 10 different articles...they all tell a different story. The sheet has a signature, the sheet doesn't have a signature, Pushlin acknowledges, Pushlin has no idea. All the accounts have different FACTS.....which is just very odd.

I'm calling Shenanigans.

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 Medium of Death wrote:
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"This is a frightening new development in the anti-Jewish movement that is gaining traction around the world," Klein said


I will have to call BS on that though. What world wide anti-Jewish movement is that? The one that's against Israel? A state, not a people. People don't dislike Israel for being Jewish, they dislike Israel because they do dickish things and should know better.


Yeah... uh, there has kinda been a pronounced uptick in violence against Jews and antisemitism (q.v. "Global Antisemitism Rises by 30%").

Put another way, it is no academic disagreement with the policies of Israel that made the (non-Jewish) author of this piece feel in a Swedish city, well...

I've lived in Malmö for almost two years and in that time there have been numerous shootings and violent crimes. As an Irish person abroad I've never felt remotely threatened but wearing the kippah for a few hours was enough to instill feelings of fear. Even when I didn't feel afraid I was made to feel different and unwelcome.


Read the whole thing, and ponder the update at the end: of the three Jews identified in the piece, one had to have his name changed for protection. Not because he is a criminal, but because in Malmö, some Jews can only feel safe if no one knows they are a Jew.

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