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@ Green Angel yeah your rights its not about having all the armies for 40K. thats like saying buy your PS3 and just play the same game for the next couple of years. Most people I know and game with have atleast 3 armies min. Even the kids that come to the store change armies atleast oncde evry4-6months. But Obviously thats not expensive.

I agree if you never change your army then figure by figure its not that expensive but the whole hobby is geared towrds buyeing more mini and updating armies



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[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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I don't know why people argue about price. People will ALWAYS complain about prices being high in every aspect of life and nothing you do or say, even lower prices, will change their minds.

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Posted By Green Angel on 11/19/2006 3:42 PM

 You fail to address the fact that Warmachine figures, per figure, are priced as much or almost as much as GW ones. You need fewer Warmachine figures, which makes the game overall cost less, but then, no one says you have to play 40K at 2000 points.

Space Marines cost between $3.50 and $10 per model. 

Yes, tactical marines are a "good deal" at $3.50 each, but that's where the "good deal" stops.  Regular scouts cost $4.00 each.  Assault Marines and scouts with sniper rifles, cost $5. per model.  The command squad and veteran squad come in at $7.00 per model.  Devistators are $7.50 per model.  Terminators of all kinds cost $10 per model.  That puts the average cost for infantry at $7.36 per model. 

Cygnar...  Long gunners are $3.66 per model, Trenchers and Gun Magese are $4.17 per model, Sword Knights are $5 per model, and Storm Blades and Storm Guard are $6.17 per model.  Averaging that out gives you 4.89 per model. 

Therefore, you have a smaller price range for WARMACHINE models, a lower average for per model price, and a lower model count required for WARMACHINE over 40k.  These are all based on the boxed set costs.  It's actually less for the blisters in WARMACHINE where 40k blisters cost more... 

In the end, you'll spend as much as you want/are willing to spend on whichever game is your preference.  I couldn't stand the rules for 40k.  While the Eldar stuff looks really cool, I look at the price that it'll cost for me to get back into 40k and realise that I could buy everything in my chosen factions for the same price.  I'll stick with WARMACHINE/HORDES with its much cleaner rules set, it's much better company and its much lower price.

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Posted By beef on 11/17/2006 6:28 PM
DO you have a crack addiction? What other hobby or unnecessary thing do you spend money on that is more expensive than GW products? I waste alot on other things aswell that are not basic necessaties but lets not kid ourselves GW is overpriced. I dont however complain about it (its just a fact) I buy it cos I am an addict (GW products not Crack)

Target shooting. Skeet shooting. Both of those are more (but don't tell the wife!!!).  Golf would be considerably more as well, as would martial arts or dancing the tango with the missus.  

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How do you address the fact that other company's miniatures are comparably priced to GW's? Warmachine figures cost more per figure then GW's, barring characters.

The Cygnar Thunderhead Heavy Warjack costs 35.99 on the Warstore site.

Plastic droppods are coming.

The Cygnar Thunderhead is a unique jack.  Which means you only need (and can ever have) one in your army.  It is also comparable in size to the new SM Venerable Dreadnought.

The key difference in Warmachine / Hordes vs GW product is that:

GW:  If you are tired of the way your existing units play and want something totally different, you can:

Buy a new army ($500+) - Any non-stock armies generally approach the $1000 mark.  (i.e. bikes, all mounted, all tanks, infantry horde etc.)

Privateer:  If you are tired of the way your existing units play and want something totally different, you can:

Buy a new army ($200+) - Any infantry heavy armies generally approach the $500 mark.
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Buy a new commander ($10)

The ability to change your army's playstyle by swapping its leader is a huge advantage and keeps the game interesting.

Finally:  The talk about plastic drop pods is like the talk of a plastic waveserpent... all through 3rd edition...  I'll believe it when I see it.

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yeah just like the plastice baneblades and all the other stuff we were supposed to ghet.



[quote name='ArmouredWing' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:38 PM' post='1551280']
[quote name='Beef' post='1551252' date='Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM']You said it, we dont control the rules so we should stop trying to control the tournaments. Let the person with the most abusive list win. If you dont like it take the same list as him/her. Tournamenst should apeal to hardcore gamers and non hardcore gamers alike I agree but the ones who are not hardcore should not cry about it when they get thrashed. Its like saying everybody should be able to play in the NFL. Fine but when you get people who are crap and they get a leg broken they should not moan about it. If you play against the hard core you should except the fact you might lose.

Beef I've got to applaud you on this statement, it brought a smile to my face and it's actually won me around to your way of thinking. Tournaments are there to be won, plain and simple and as you say, if you play with the big boys then you've gotta be prepared for the consequences.

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