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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 10:11:01
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Hollismason wrote:Anyone who buys that is a slow and has to much money.
... yep but they know that there are enough fanboyz out there who would. Interestingly, whilst at Battlegroup South this weekend, the general response to GW and their prices was to laugh and say no thank you. The gamers like their stuff, but are basically saying that enough is enough and they won't be buying much more. The whole cost based on what type of unit it is really gets their goat. I know that Simple Miniatures didn't really shift much GW stuff and that MCS Miniatures PP stuff was selling really well.
I realise it's been said on other posts, but traditional gamers know that although PP models may cost the same or a bit more than GW's, they don't need so many to play a good size game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 14:34:48
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Imperial Admiral
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm going to go right ahead and assume that this is an attempt at ironic humour, right?
Otherwise (or regardless, really), I'll repeat myself:
Do not buy this bundle from GW. Buy it at all.
And I have to fix your post again.
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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
I am increasingly of the opinion GW likes to cover or fill everything with empty skulls as a subconscious way of saying; "look, no brains here". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 15:31:31
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Ahhhhhh, I think you may have missed a vital point to this waste of money....
maybe GW has a pile load of models they were trying to flog earlier in time, but didn't and have re-packaged them with other more wanted models to shift a few. As has been said it looks cool and they may only be relying on the 'kids' on the whole to buy enough of these crazy deals to shift some of their excess - simple waste management. I'm guessing drop pods myself, or possibly tactical squads with a few assult marine frames thrown on top to vary the set a little. They won't have done it for no reaswon, even GW aren't that  but I do think it's an awful set and hope not too many Little Timmys are dissapointed on their birthdays. I'm surprised they haven't slapped an extra £20 on and supply it with plastic glue, flipper and sand as an 'added bonus'. Sort of crazy thing they'd try.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 16:21:28
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Calculating Commissar
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I think it's a cool deal for the collector type who may want to build their own army and have lots of different units to play lots of different lists with. For me personally this is how I'd want my army to be, all drop pods. However, the fact that there's no savings is just stupid, especially when they did those apocalypse sets. If they knocked the price to say $850 or so, they'd sell a lot more. But for me, if I was gonna drop that much cash on GW stuff, I'd buy a FW Reaver
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 17:31:05
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I agree with Necros, I would love to get an army that plays like this one probably does. However, with no savings involved, I wouldn't even bother. This sort of selling defies basic economic principles of bulk purchasing. The only way I'd consider this was if I already had gotten a bunch of cheap Rhinos somewhere and a friend and I split the package down the center, or if I was just dying to put together two armies of different color SMs. Sarge wrote: And not everybody wants to collect an army in installments. Frankly, to me that's a pain. Nickle and dime yourself to death. How many people end up selling extra stuff they bought for full price at a loss on the second-hand market because they had more models than they knew what to do with? I mean, I've seen quite a fair number of people here just on Dakka selling off unpainted/unassembled/NIB! models to pay for rent and other non-disposable income activities. I would rather nickel and dime it because I assume less risk by buying piece by piece, even if the monetary cost many be a tad higher. In the long run, it doesn't really matter to me, the flexibility is worth the $XX I save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 18:29:25
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Unix - lolz. Thanks for pointing out who doesn't have a sense of humor.
"Unless this is some form of ironic human based humor, I fail to see your point! Let me adjust my emotion chip and try to comprehend again"
And guys of course this isn't a deal. It's obviously an attempt to prey on the background/fluff heavy gentlemen of this hobby.
Emphasis mine.
I personally cannot fathom why GWS would introduce such a bloated boxed set, especially right now of all times - but I'm sure it doesn't cost anything to promote it right? I'm sure every time someone orders the spear, they simply send a temp into the warehouse to rip apart the proper number of drop pod boxes and throw them into a much larger box with tacs and terminators.
I can't see them actually having product boxed up before someone orders it, because I only see this set selling twice before being pulled from the website.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 19:13:25
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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it would be great if on the website they had a counter for how many people had bought the item....
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Kurgash wrote:Penetrate or ignore it. Standard law of Man and Necron apparently. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 19:14:20
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Earlier today this was listed as out of stock.
I have collected very close to this army with FW dread pods for three dreads, 20 more terminators, 25 more scouts, complete Vanguard and Sternguard units of 10, extra captains and 10 regular drop pods. I've bits ordered a lot of accent pieces, specific heads and weapons etc... I have only two assault squads but two full devestator squads with extra weapon options. It's taken me a year of trades, two boxes of AOBR conversions (only keeping 10 of the tactical marines as I like to convert and pose) and a good deal of Ebay, Warstore and FLGS. My total so far is just over 800 U.S. across the year and I've built it all as I went along.
I'm in no position to call anyone stupid or slowed after that, but if that army seems appealing to you (and in the games I've played, I've had a great time) I personally recommed helping out a local store if you're planning to pay full price. I worked for GW awhile ago and tried desperately to encourage deals on boxed sets. Glad they're finally doing it on some, but baffled by the absense of any deal on a set like this. I've always been a bit of a fanboy, I'll admit, but I now strongly encourage a mix of internet deals, FLGS, and ebay. The only thing I've bought from a GW store was the mark 2 vets for my sergeants as they were available nowhere else.
I guess I'm just a bit stunned that this set is $1066 and was possibly sold out this morning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 19:19:53
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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daggitkiller wrote:I guess I'm just a bit stunned that this set is $1066 and was possibly sold out this morning.
It was saying "Out of Stock" since (before) it went live on the site. It's only changed to in stock in the last 24 hours.
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Her Majesty's Buxom Commissar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 19:24:28
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Calculating Commissar
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Defiler wrote:Unix - lolz. Thanks for pointing out who doesn't have a sense of humor.
"Unless this is some form of ironic human based humor, I fail to see your point! Let me adjust my emotion chip and try to comprehend again"
And guys of course this isn't a deal. It's obviously an attempt to prey on the background/fluff heavy gentlemen of this hobby.
Emphasis mine.
I personally cannot fathom why GWS would introduce such a bloated boxed set, especially right now of all times - but I'm sure it doesn't cost anything to promote it right? I'm sure every time someone orders the spear, they simply send a temp into the warehouse to rip apart the proper number of drop pod boxes and throw them into a much larger box with tacs and terminators.
I can't see them actually having product boxed up before someone orders it, because I only see this set selling twice before being pulled from the website.
I doubt it comes in a separate special box. I ordered an apocalypse set of 3 fexes for 2, and I just got 3 regular carnifex boxes, no special packaging. So, they probably don't even go to the trouble of having someone unbox it all and just grab whatever they need off the shelf.
However, I do think it will sell more than twice. There's plenty of nerds out there with more money than all of us combined, maybe they don't take the time to figure out the prices separately and think it's a deal when it really isn't. I'm sure they'll sell a bunch of these sets. It won't sell like hotcakes, but still.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 22:59:11
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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does anyone want to split this with me??? for the price of shipping I am saving a bundle!!! (bad joke I know)
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Kurgash wrote:Penetrate or ignore it. Standard law of Man and Necron apparently. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/06 23:02:49
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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I might look into this but i won't use half off it unless i ally.
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Alatair, Vindicare Assassin of the Blood Dragons.
Emperors Faithful wrote:Assassin: One shot is all it takes...
Slaneesh: Bow chika wow wow!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 08:23:43
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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We at Bunker 5 run this bundle for £475 which is $806 USD and that's including glue and a citadel paint set thrown in for laughs.
I don't think that's too bad a deal, delivery is free and since it all comes in the original plastic you can change one item for another, in fact if you wanted to customise we might be able to help you out, for example if you wanted to switch Rhinos for the Drop Pods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 09:58:59
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Zarahemna wrote:...delivery is free...
Worldwide?
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The views expressed in the above post are my own views and unless stated otherwise I do not, in any way, shape or form, speak for or on the behalf of Fantasy Flight Games.
"As a customer, I'd really like to like GW, but they seem to hate me." - Ouze
"Hoping for balance with GW is like hoping to live while playing Russian roulette with a glock." - Shaman
"I am amazed at the numbers of plastic space marines sold. I can't believe it, I keep expecting it to be a front for drugs." - Jervis Johnson
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 16:53:39
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Devastating Destroyer
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Man, I need troll like that more often. Yes it's a silly box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 17:00:10
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Devastating Destroyer
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Wow. Great job GW. This is ridiculous. Games workshop needs to get their act together stuff like that is a waste of time. They could have been updating codexs or models and instead they waste their time with stupid stuff. They could have just used the picture for something why make it a $1066 armydeal? GW needs to chill out with the price increases and focus on the game. They won't get a US government bailout if they start going belly up.
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Mathhammer is NOT Warhammer.
**Necrons**Thunder Barons (Counts-as) Grey Knights**Ogre Kingdoms** |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 17:17:04
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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Yes Worldwide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 17:27:11
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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[DCM]
Depressed and burnt out script writer
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The Grundel wrote:Wow. Great job GW. This is ridiculous. Games workshop needs to get their act together stuff like that is a waste of time. They could have been updating codexs or models and instead they waste their time with stupid stuff. They could have just used the picture for something why make it a $1066 armydeal? GW needs to chill out with the price increases and focus on the game. They won't get a US government bailout if they start going belly up. GW is British..
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COMING SOON TO CHANNEL7 - The insidious masterminds of HADES are constantly threatening the free nations of the world through acts of terror and theft of top secret equipment. The scheming Elliot Fontaine is trying to dominate the world market with his Fontaine Industries products. The evil Red Empire is encroaching upon the world with its armies of misguided minions. The Republic of Alruco is a hotbed of intrigue and murder. Finally.. the mysterious island Kingdom of Korvosa are getting more and more bold with their science projects.
The forces of good are preparing their agencies, amongst them the British CROWN and American OMEGA, to combat these evil factions and ensure that freedom will prevail once more! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 17:34:03
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Thanks for the deal, Ass****s
You'd figure buying $1300 worth of crap would mean you get a deal, I guess this one is just for their own crack head employees with their discount.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/07 17:40:15
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Oberstleutnant
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BrookM wrote:The Grundel wrote:Wow. Great job GW. This is ridiculous. Games workshop needs to get their act together stuff like that is a waste of time. They could have been updating codexs or models and instead they waste their time with stupid stuff. They could have just used the picture for something why make it a $1066 armydeal? GW needs to chill out with the price increases and focus on the game. They won't get a US government bailout if they start going belly up. GW is British..
So they're definitely not getting a bailout then!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 09:10:13
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Privateer
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Yeah, take that ya stinkin' redcoats!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 10:53:24
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Battleship Captain
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Why is everyone complaining about this? It's taken no time and cost nothing to offer this package beyond taking the photo.
What it does do is create a bit of excitement and give people something to aspire to (the kiddies in particular).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 11:19:26
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Some people take things way too seriously.
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If you can keep your head, while all about you are loosing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 13:29:02
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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[DCM]
Depressed and burnt out script writer
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Sometimes I think that they are all Dutchmen, who must have something to complain about, regardless of whether it is of interest or not.
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COMING SOON TO CHANNEL7 - The insidious masterminds of HADES are constantly threatening the free nations of the world through acts of terror and theft of top secret equipment. The scheming Elliot Fontaine is trying to dominate the world market with his Fontaine Industries products. The evil Red Empire is encroaching upon the world with its armies of misguided minions. The Republic of Alruco is a hotbed of intrigue and murder. Finally.. the mysterious island Kingdom of Korvosa are getting more and more bold with their science projects.
The forces of good are preparing their agencies, amongst them the British CROWN and American OMEGA, to combat these evil factions and ensure that freedom will prevail once more! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 13:54:23
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Been Around the Block
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Paying $1000 for plastic toys? My parents and\or girlfriend would lynch me...
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"Quantity Has a Quality All Its Own"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 14:42:43
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Calculating Commissar
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Ritz wrote:Paying $1000 for plastic toys? My parents and\or girlfriend would lynch me...
10 years from now when you have 8 different armies you'll forget you ever said that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 14:48:47
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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It looks cool but I'm just not willing to drop 1000+ dollars for a bunch of plastic toy soldiers. In small increments over a long period of time sure. But not all at once.
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Giorgio Tsoukalos (Channeled by Chowderhead) wrote:
Rubiksnoob?
Alien Conspiracy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 16:29:44
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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No discount eh? GW isn't even trying anymore. In the current economic climate one can only marvel at such complacency. Automatically Appended Next Post: $1066--the Norman invasion. So Sicarius is William the Bastard? Maybe that is what GW is thinking
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 17:58:26
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ha! Now I know! This will be an extremely rare box to have - since nearly no one will buy it - it will become an extremely expensive GW collectors item!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/08 21:36:01
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Back in the end of rogue trader and the start of second edition, if you had a company of marines it was really impressive as well as just plain loony! You would never use it all at once and no one ever needed that many tac squads either. It was neat and cool if you were that into your chapter and had them all painted up but that was about it.
Even now there isnt much call for it save for Apoc games. And even then really? Sure we all (those of us with way more GW crap than we ever need, I am so guilty) have all the options to choose from in building the army, but this is usually the result of years of collecting and painting. This buy a whole company of crap at once and rarely if even use it all in a game for the sake of buing a company is just plain silly.
The no price break is just the cherry on top of the kick in the nuts GW seems to continueally give out to those of us have havnt yet stopped buying their product.
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