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Deadshane1 wrote:"Spearhead is a new way to play Warhammer 40,000......"

I ask the same question that I ask with all of these releases, "Whats wrong with the old way?"

Conversely, what's wrong with having more variety?

Breotan wrote:Yo Dawg wolves riding wolves > Fancypants lads with nipple armor, hot crossed buns on their kneecaps, and bolters sewn to their mittens? I don't think so.

I never even noticed the hot cross buns until now.

RE; Spearhead's accomopanying new models, Captain Ventris over at Warseer who has proven to be a credible rumour monger had this to say;

Captain Ventris wrote:I've heard that the kits coming will be the following:

- recut leman russ with remaining russ options
- recut predator with updated sponsons
- ork warbuggy/wartrack/skorcha kit (makes one model)
- eldar fire prism (plastic kit)

they will also supposedly be combining the following kits to make room in their product lineup, (this is less concrete)

- landraider/crusader/redeemer
- Tau skyray/hammerhead (just changing the box ans discontinuing the hammerhead kit
- rhino/razorback

Source is a fairly good friend who is on the gw retail side, and no he's not a redshirt...his rumours however are thus untested, so take with a grain of salt...

I am interested in the new rules but mega excited about finally getting the long rumoured buggy/trak/skorcha box.

Here's a cad pic from ages ago of what it may or may not look like;

http://www.pbase.com/brimstone/image/98969916/original.jpg

Edit, that's the grot from the stompa sprue I see, I doubt they'll not repeat a crew figure so we can assume that won't be exactly how it looks.

Ooh, new Ork Vehicles - I like it!

Big fan of Supplements. Looking forward to this. I agree, Orks get all the love. We went through a LONG dry spell when we were expected to play with Gorkamorka-Reject models, and the Orkses became restless, but GW has made good in these past two years by basically redoing the entire Ork Line of models.

It's good to be the Orks.

All my plastic vehicle kit guesses have already been taken... boo. Thinking about the way they've been releasing things though: new models are unlikely, as is repackaging existing kits together. The only time we've seen this is with the Crusader/Redeemer kit. I expect to see one new vehicle kit (Ork buggies), hope to see a second new vehicle kit (IG artillery variants), and fully expect recut kits that everyone already has that they will no doubt trumpet and push in our faces regardless.

Only thing left would be if they threw a total curve ball and released something like plastic GKT or SoB with this (remember those 3ups a few months ago?).

I do have to say that one part we seem to be glossing over is the "daring breakthroughs" bit.

Could this finally mean plastic Stormtroopers get released?

I really hope you're right. As long as they are Stormtroopers and not those bloody awful Kasrkin

- recut leman russ with remaining russ options
- recut predator with updated sponsons
- ork warbuggy/wartrack/skorcha kit (makes one model)
- eldar fire prism (plastic kit)

they will also supposedly be combining the following kits to make room in their product lineup, (this is less concrete)

- landraider/crusader/redeemer
- Tau skyray/hammerhead (just changing the box ans discontinuing the hammerhead kit
- rhino/razorback

- recut leman russ with remaining russ options = Increase in price.
- recut predator with updated sponsons = Increase in price
- ork warbuggy/wartrack/skorcha kit (makes one model) = Increase in price
- eldar fire prism (plastic kit) = Increase in price?!

they will also supposedly be combining the following kits to make room in their product lineup, (this is less concrete)

- Tau skyray/hammerhead (just changing the box ans discontinuing the hammerhead kit = Increase in price? ha
- rhino/razorback = INCREASE!


We must watch out for the product price creep. Its coming!

The Watcher in the Dark wrote:I really hope you're right. As long as they are Stormtroopers and not those bloody awful Kasrkin

Bite your tongue, heathen! The Kasrkin are the definition of Stormtroopers now

The older Stormtrooper models looked great...when every other Guard regiment was wearing t-shirts, vests, and random scarves/coats. The fact that we have the Cadians and Elysians(who for 'light' infantry--are STILL more heavily geared than the old Stormtrooper models) means they have to step up their game to represent Carapace Armor.

RogueMarket wrote:
- ork warbuggy/wartrack/skorcha kit (makes one model) = Increase in price

I will gladly pay more money for such a kit if it is a quality replacement for the seriously dated excuses for buggies/trakks we have now( circa what 1990?)


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Kanluwen wrote:

The Watcher in the Dark wrote:I really hope you're right. As long as they are Stormtroopers and not those bloody awful Kasrkin

Bite your tongue, heathen! The Kasrkin are the definition of Stormtroopers now

The older Stormtrooper models looked great...when every other Guard regiment was wearing t-shirts, vests, and random scarves/coats. The fact that we have the Cadians and Elysians(who for 'light' infantry--are STILL more heavily geared than the old Stormtrooper models) means they have to step up their game to represent Carapace Armor.

The kasrkin models are garbage. The storm troopers with gasmasks that preceded them are far superior. I'm pretty sure that is what he is referring to, not the plastic guys w/ berets...

dietrich wrote:Maybe GW will release a tank that carries tanks that carry troopers.

I know you were joking, but they already did that.

Platuan4th wrote:

dietrich wrote:Maybe GW will release a tank that carries tanks that carry troopers.

I know you were joking, but they already did that.

That looks suspiciously like a steam tank.

CT GAMER wrote:

RogueMarket wrote:
- ork warbuggy/wartrack/skorcha kit (makes one model) = Increase in price

I will gladly pay more money for such a kit if it is a quality replacement for the seriously dated excuses for buggies/trakks we have now( circa what 1990?)

Actually you are right haha

CT GAMER wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

The Watcher in the Dark wrote:I really hope you're right. As long as they are Stormtroopers and not those bloody awful Kasrkin

Bite your tongue, heathen! The Kasrkin are the definition of Stormtroopers now

The older Stormtrooper models looked great...when every other Guard regiment was wearing t-shirts, vests, and random scarves/coats. The fact that we have the Cadians and Elysians(who for 'light' infantry--are STILL more heavily geared than the old Stormtrooper models) means they have to step up their game to represent Carapace Armor.

The Kasrkin models are garbage. The storm troopers with gasmasks that preceded them are far superior. I'm pretty sure that is what he is referring to, not the plastic guys w/ berets...

Different tastes vary then I guess. I hated the stormtroopers with gasmasks and was glad when the Kasrkin were released. The ones you're referring to look far too "modern"(and again--FAR too under-armored to be shock troops. They're wearing a sheet of metal on their chests, bracers, and some kind of neckguard that makes them look like they have a broken collarbone) to to be used in 40k. The Kasrkin actually look like hardened, heavily armored shock troopers.

CT GAMER wrote:The kasrkin models are garbage. The storm troopers with gasmasks that preceded them are far superior. I'm pretty sure that is what he is referring to, not the plastic guys w/ berets...

Exactly... the Kasrkin just didn't look great, plus they were ridiculous in any non-Cadian army. Stormtroopers are drawn form all over the Imperium and are organised seperately from all other regiments, therefore should have their own look. Kasrkin = Cadian Hardened Vets. with carapace armour...

Back on topic. Enough with the Imperium vehicle releases!!! I am a massive fan of Imperium forces but seriously it's time for something other than reboxing and price-hiking exisiting Imperial tank kits, even if they get a few more options. How about fully plastic Broadsides or a new Tau tank variant (given how fast their tech is supposed to advance you'd have thought they might be able to manage some new turret options for the Hammerhead to rival the Russ' 7 Codex variants)? How about something new for Chaos (maybe with two-legs and a Power Scourge...?)? The plastic Fire Prism is a good start but wouldn't it be nice for one of these releases not to include the Imperium (or Orks) for once...?

*Goes into hiding before the Inquisition arrive to purge the heresy*

Whoops! Forgot the colon.

The Watcher in the Dark wrote:*Goes into hiding before the Inquisition arrive to purge the heresy*

*NOBODY* expects the Spanish Inquisition!...

seriously though, i agree that as much as a guard player that I am, I do feel that other races are being ignored a bit.

Still, some nice new stormtroopers wouldnt go amiss

Vlad

Scottywan82 wrote:So having no missions for Inq or DE in the most recent release for Warhammer 40,000 doesn't indicate they are being shelved? Thank god Necrons got something. I guess.

DE got missions in the latest book.


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CT GAMER wrote:The kasrkin models are garbage.

In your opinion.

Ever since their release we've seen quite a few people who adore them though.

Personally, I'm hoping for new SM Bikes. The current models are >10 years old and are some of the last hybrid kits left in the range. A new Bike kit, with cost/options along the lines of the excellent new Scout Bikes, would probably get me to buy at least a squad or two.

Platuan4th wrote:

dietrich wrote:Maybe GW will release a tank that carries tanks that carry troopers.

I know you were joking, but they already did that.

I was, but I also knew about the Imperialis. But, they've not done it in 40k scale. The one superheavy can carry dreads, but that's the closest thing. BoLS had a nice tutorial about building that monster in 40k scale, that's the most I've ever seen.

And actually, a plastic thunderhawk transport would fit the bill too..........hmmmmmm........

Can you keep the thread on topic, and not about which version of Stormtrooper model you love and/or hate?

If someone wants to start that conversation over in 40K General Discussion, be my guest...

Havik110 wrote:

Flashman wrote:Mechanised assaults? New Kits? This can only herald the appearance of yet another Land Raider variant

the flying type that can carry a unit and a dread?

Yeah, and it has 5 twin-linked METLAGUNZZ!!11! and it has armour 23 all round

Gargskull wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:"Spearhead is a new way to play Warhammer 40,000......"

I ask the same question that I ask with all of these releases, "Whats wrong with the old way?"

Conversely, what's wrong with having more variety?

You mean unlike every game of 40k currently, where every army that can mech up, is mech'd up? And where every player who wants to use lots of armor can do so in Apoc - along with datasheets to support it? And where you could already decide in regular 40k to play with lots of tanks? More variety than that?

And its fairly likely that like Planetstrike, and Apoc, this will require opponents to sit down and agree on how it'll play, and won't be as easy to play in straight pick up games.

I'll be passing on the rules for this, and waiting to see what models actually are released.

Yeah, not really interested in the supplement but new plastic kits is always good.

Stormraven please. Don't make me kitbash a Land Raider with a Valkyrie and try to make it look acceptable

If the recut Predator is true, that'd be great. The sponsons are a horrendous design currently and break if you even look at them.

Well, I for one am interested.

Although the cynical part of me is thinking that this is being released in WD rather than as a book because they had to squeeze it in out of the normal release schedule in order to make the Stormraven available to everybody, to forestall the complaints.

Some missing IG tanks - sure.
Easy to built Russes always welcome.

But why expect a storm-raven? Is there any hint or illustration of its design?
No?

Maybe consider that all IG tanks had at least illustrations in their codex and will also look like them, rising the chances of
the converters to work out their own before any 'official' model is available.

Heard nothing of the looks of a Storm-Raven.
I would wait with such vehicle until the next SM release ( if there are not so many new kits/upgrades needed ) to have something
to sell then.....

I wouldn't expect to see the Storm Raven, simply because if it was coming this soon then surely there'd be art in the codex for it.

1hadhq wrote:But why expect a storm-raven? Is there any hint or illustration of its design?

I'm not expecting a kit. Just a rules entry that makes it available to all Chapters.

A Griffon would be a welcome addition. Though chances are that there will be a new recut Russ with three or four options, fingers crossed.

Maybe a Mycetic Spore?!

I think it would be a smart move to release the new Space Marine transport flyer ASAP. And as far as I know, some people have already seen the model in some stage of development.

I really, really want to loot one.

This is the summer Event i was talking about