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Don't know if its been said; but for the guy that's suspended, why not try a clear gel agent that you can pour into the container? You can even get some that you can dye different colours to get different effects you want.


I don't recall the name of any product off hand, but I always venture down the faux flower isle' at hobby stores for this stuff as a lot of people use it for making the water in the "vase" for their fake flowers.

Cool hovercraft ork!

Dracheous - thanks for that, there's a garden center opposite me with a crafts area, so I may go have a look on Sunday, as I was planning to go look for some more chains anyway.

Good Green - Thank you.

So fair bit of messing around done but very little of it got to a view-worthy stage
Old greensteela with another claw from a PK and an old ork arm - think from a mek. Still needs some GS work. Didn't get stripped with the others as part of the arm had already been attached at that point, although I have at least one more grot in same colours (my old steela cult) that didn't get stripped either.

Came up with a better idea for Grimsnik's dok's tools
Orky servo-skulls Upzag's getting one with mek tools.

And that's all for now, thanks for looking.

Orky Servo-skull? Brilliant!

that looks soooo coool
really like the feel of it

Orky Servo-skull? I'll be stealing that, thanks!

Wow, I've been planning some ork servoskullz too, but that skull is particularly awesome. Where did it come from? Also, great job sevo-ing it.

monkeytroll wrote:After some advice for this guy too:
I'm wanting a 'suspended in gunk' look, and I'm a bit unsure on how to go about it. I have some old monomer (used for making optical lenses) laying about that I know I can tint with inks, and that would be the best solution I think, although previous experience warns me that could give me air bubbles/vortices - it looked okay in the 'magic mushrooms' I was making at the time, but not sure it would improve this . I also have no idea if the monomer would react with the paints at all, but I'm fairly confident that it won't.
The other option is a heavy wash on the inside of the perspex, not sure this would really give the look I'm after.
So, any advice, any other options I'm not thinking off?
The grot has been glued to the perspex but not the base, although I may be able to detach him - I know I shouldn't have glued him without a solution in place, but...I did.

Here's my advice - Hot glue + ink. Use a toothpick to swish it around a little so when it dries it look like liquid sloshing. Add ink for color as you pour the hot glue in.
Just an idea. Hope it helps. I like your creations!

Hey thanks guys, glad the servo-skulls a hit

GG - The skull comes from some old banner top, I bought a few back when GW still played nice with modellers and let us buy bits That's something I'm finding with Dakka, I keep coming across ideas that I thought were totally unique to me, which wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't also thinking 'damn, that's better than the image I had'

Lord Shag - not sure that would work here as I'm going to have to fill from the top down (already wondering how I'm going to pull it off with resin), but that is a pretty cool idea and I can think of a few other places where I might use that. If I ever get round to those ideas that is

Upzag's finished upgrading his own servo-skull
swapped the top of the skull with another Inq arco-flagellants head, still need to GS the gaps, and possibly add a mechandrite coming from underneath. Not convinced I'll be using the support in that position, but think I will use guitar string for the support.

Hover-boy back out of the surjary (head blu-tac'd for painting)
\not sure about the helmet decoration, wanted something there but looks a little busy with the shoulder pad, maybe file down the pad, or maybe lose the hair. And just noticed I havent riveted the jet to his back properly yet, hope those chains are tight. Was going to add 1 or 2 cables around the rear too, but actually I'm happy with it as is there. For now Also noticed I have a habit of starting sentences with a conjunction when on forums, very poor.

And first of the bionik-boyz ('ard boyz)
Arms and 1 foot not glued yet as pincers need cleaning up and other arm and gun still need a bit of work - need to shape shoulder a bit better and fit a better magazine and barrel to the slugga. I managed to snap one foot off but I'll replace it with something else and use that foot elsewhere - the legs came from maximini, the torso is 2 marine backs and the slugga arm comes from the old spacehulk libby. Decided the bionik-boyz will still have flesh heads (mostly), mainly as I wasn't sure I'd come up with enough heads.

Doing a bit of playing around with sentinel based mega-nobz, partly because I decided the baneblade headlights and the ogre man-trap made a cool orky head and I couldn't think of anywhere to use it However I can't find the Inq scale robot I was building based on a sentinel, and I really want to look at that first as I'm sure I'd armoured it up a bit and had interesting ideas about weapon mounts, but I can't recall what they were.

edit: Actually the sentinels, might make better kans. Must....find...missing...model.

Hover-boy looks like a flying Roman centurion

Whatever you try for filling the "experiment" - make sure you do a test run first - hate to see that unique model spoiled by your own experimenting!

Keep up the good work!

Good job, keep it up!

Great job, the 'ard boy looks the part! Is he armed with a PK, or do you have something special in mind for that?

Note to self: Listen to Arakasi !

Arakasi - That means he'll keep the squig-hair plume, can't beat a flying ork centurion

Finch Claw - Thank you!

CommisarKhaine - Thanks, at the moment it's just a choppa, it is supposed to be held up a bit, blu-tac failed as I was taking shots I'll probably wait till I have a few more assembled before making final decision on that though, it still might get swapped out for another arm.

Will have to wait a couple of days to see how the grot-in-a-jar turns out, but it may be a fail at this point. Not looking forward to fiddly wire work again if so, also not looking forward to finding another jar Still might not be as bad as it loks at present, may sort itself out a bit as it cures. Resin went in ok, but issues started when I tried to colour it. Couldn't spot my GW green ink so used some Windsor&Newton instead, but it just formed blobs instead of spreading. Bit of poking and stirring made a few blobs sink from the surface and I thought I could use that look, added a bit of thraka green, same thing, tried a touch of red and yellow GW inks more of the same. I'm now wondering if it was food colouring I used last time I played with this stuff (about 12 years ago). Wasn't really the look I wanted, but thought it could work, then knocked it over Was sensible enough to be doing it inside a larger receptacle, so poured it back in and it went a murky colour, got a bit messy as I tried to assemble the whole thing so I could turn it right way up, hoping the colour might sink a little to give a gradiated effect. But it just looks murky now, too murky to see the grot in fact. Have to see what happens tomorrow - which is another stupid point as it sets under UV, daylight will work but I started as night fell
Oh well, have to wait and see I guess, typical orky enjuneering

Water effects from gw

Sorry to hear that, hope it turns out more or less ok!

Oh no! I'd say, dump it out if it hasn't cured yet... but you probably won't read this before it's too late - so... I'd say, as long as the grot is visible it's not a total loss. :(

The new models are cool. Is that a FW leg on the last guy? I think the ork head looks much more demonic with his jaw cut off. Kinda funny.

I like the new servoskull, too. I can't really see the engine bit, but the arco-head bit is a nice mek-ish version compared to the docs tools. The mechandrite sounds like a good idea, but it's hard to say if it would work, with all the tendrally wires in the back... might be too much, of course paint could fix that I suppose.

Looking good All the best with that grot in the mud pot.

Marvelous, green-skinned, lil' works of art. I tip my hat at thee.

BlutEisenRegel - the idea flitted briefly across my mind but I wasn't sure how well it worked with that sort of depth, guess I may have to mess about a bit with various stuff for future reference.

CommissarKhaine - pretty much a fail as you'll see in a moment, c'est la vie.

The Good Green - Just as I was getting into bed I decided to do just that. Too little, too late, I should consider that as a motto of mine I feel Thanks, the legs come from maximini, they have some very nice stuff and have just released a set of mono-wheels, so think my plans to not spend any more on hobby just yet may have flown into the warp If I put the mechandrite coming from where the support currently is I think it'll be OK, at the moment I just think it needs another 'tool' type thingummy. My main concern is the support, it does interfere with the engine view I think.

Dakka_Dok - I thank you for your kind words good sir.

So, as mentioned above, I prised apart the glued pot in order to dump the uncured 'mud' and after a quick peek realised I'd made a schoolboy error which contributed to the murky look. I forgot to seal the grot before gluing him in there Normally everything moves at the pace of a one-legged sguiggoth, but occasionally I get a burst of speed on, and in my haste I tend to feth it all up .

Well, I did say I'd post pics whatever the outcome, but I warn you now, dey ain't pwetty
Honest, there's a grot in there.


Can just see some of the damaged paint on the grot, and can see the wires have been pretty well stripped.

A dim, murky shape just visible. I may use this just as part of a scenery piece or something now, the original plan is scrap, but there may be something salvagable from it yet. Just another jar on the Dok's shelves, it'll probably work alongside some of the other ideas I have, but it could also be used like this:
I quite like this actually, depends on whether I can be bothered trying to figure out where any of my leds/resistors etc are, which probably means it'll stay as just a jar

May as well let on that the original plan was for it to become the basis of a killa-kan. A leg and power unit underneath, a couple of reinforcemnet struts up the sides and a single arm off the top using the saw/flamer combo from a penitent engine. I'll throw that idea out there for anyone as I don't have another 'jar' handy at present.

Ouch :(. The led idea is a nice salvage alternative though; maybe if you ever build a weirdboy tower or a dok's workshop?

Or make an orky Batman Signal.

I would detach the grot from the container (or break the container), redo the grot (properly this time!) and then find another container to attach him too (trialling the fill on an empty one first!)

But that's just me

Wouldn't want to waste a great idea on an inferior one

I'd set up the LED system for the time, while I looked for a new container before busting the grot out. I think it looks very cool as a terrain piece. See if you can give the grot a quick green wash to sure up his color then stick him back on the light. I think he would come through the glass a little better... maybe.

Definitely redo it, tho! A whole new attempt or salvaging this one, just make that happen because it's awesome!

'To the orkmobile'

Thanks guys, I think this ones going to stay as is, maybe with leds, maybe not, and going to some Dok based scenery. I will be keeping an eye out for potential containers for a similar attempt at a kan, and yes Arakasi, I'll try to find 2 so I can teat it first, will skip the monomer though. I think I'll go for the aqua gel stuff if I can find some, the garden centre had stopped doing it so It's another thing i'll be looking for.

Monkeytroll, I know you're not happy with the resin-grot experiment, but I love it. I can see all sorts of possibilities.

For example, it really looks like dirty ice. You could make a model with a "freeze gun" burna, with the grot being the frozen test subject. That would work really well if you put some soft blue LED's in the bottom of it.

Or, you could do a diorama showing your Big Mek and Pain Dok working together to put a grot into a Killa Kan, while another one sits nearby (either as in a jar of formaldahyde [sp?] or frozen).

Have you considered looking at some of those clear plastic ball-ish things that the quarter toys come in?

Just from my experience, pouring clear resin takes a LOT of prep work, and a willingness to do alot of wet sanding after the pour. I wish you the best of luck, however!

What models did you use to make that?

Well, it's more I'm disappointed that it wasn't what I wanted than just plain unhappy with it, I can see a few uses for it as is. It will get used somewhere, don't worry It may even be a tiny bit clearer as I've had it in and out of a UV box at work to cure any traces of the monomer left - some will have adhered to the grot which is why I'm not planning to remove and re-use hm elsewhere.
I'll resist the temptation to go down the Mr Freeze route, as a large ork with a freeze-ray will only serve to remind people of the travesty that was Batman & Robin The plastic-ball things are just what I need for something else, thanks for that, although we don't have those weird 'quarter' things you use over the pond
Yeah, I messed with standard clear resin a few times back in my youth, which is why I was trying to avoid that, the optical monomer is something I've used before and doesn't require all that sanding.


Edit: indiana1000 - the main part is thunderbird4 from the IMAI Thunderbirds:Rescue Kit, absolutely no idea which of the hundreds of sci-fi vehicles I had as a youngster that particular gun came from though.

Thunderbirds are awesome!

I call for an update!

Finch - all hail Gerry Anderson! Hmm, mind wanders off into orks looting bits from all the Anderson shows...

Hadouken - the call is heard. But not answered just yet.

Seem to have been sapped a bit more than usual by work last couple of weeks, plus doing a Bloodfist marine for porkuslime took a while - I paint REALLY slowly. So slowly that it's not worth showing pics of the bits that have been done to the cyborks. Plus most of the modelling has been more getting concepts of the concept - again nothing worthwhile there yet. Have put a bit of gs on to the zoat to start turning it into Upzag - need to do more to the eye yet.
Was in Cambridge today, so decided to pop into GW and pick up a box of kans for bits as suggested by Arakasi. Silly idea as I came out with more grots, a pirahna (to get looted obviously) and some boar-boyz for my cyboarz. Really had to fight against picking up another IA book too. Don't let my bank manager know. Anyhow, as I write this I'm clipping sprues, so something should appear soon
I've just realised I really miss the old-style GW boxes too, the ones with a sleve around the box - the inner box was so useful for dropping bits in, I have..umm..a lot..of those with various projects in, they were really good for that, the newer one piece boxes are crap for keeping bits in. Using battleforce or vehicle lids just means they get tipped over at some point - not that I can't do that anyway

But did you get the Kans