Further Necron hints for August.ish

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**Kurgash**

EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

**Crimson Devil**

I was really looking forward to new Necrons, but with the recent GW shenanigans I will be selling them now. I find myself hoping the codex sucks, so I won't be tempted.

Oh well. Good luck with it fellas.

**KarlPedder**

EYEofTERROR wrote:Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

Your trolling right?!

**angelshade00**

Kurgash wrote:
EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

Thank you so much!

**cyberscape7**

Kurgash wrote:
EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

E.P.I.C. ... On a side note @EYEofTERROR I'm pretty sure that GK already stole the DE thunder when they went all Psyrifles...

**Anpu-adom**

Sergeant Horse wrote:I tried to order necron warriors last week and was told they were discontinued.

Nothing that those who roam this forum haven't heard about a dozen times. If you do have new details, you need to come with more of those details.

Who were you ordering from? FLGS? Battle Bunker? GW-online?

What were you ordering? Metals? The only place you can order metals currently is direct from GW, and even they have a few that aren't available anymore.

**0Corpse_Eater0**

God damn I'm tired of waiting... I hope the Necrons don't go the way of the Squats...

**Kirasu**

The only way necrons would go the way of squats is if they were short, hairy and simply a parody of a bunch of drunk bikers

**Ascalam**

Necrons are tall, bony parodies of a certain movie starring the governor of Cali instead :0)

COMPLETELY different, so not to worry..

I don't see them Squatting them, given the 'what about squats' grief they STILL get years and years on...

**Brother SRM**

Sergeant Horse wrote:I tried to order necron warriors last week and was told they were discontinued.

You can still order them off GW's website.

E:

0Corpse_Eater0 wrote:God damn I'm tired of waiting... I hope the Necrons don't go the way of the Squats...

I don't see why anyone thinks this ever about any army.

**omerakk**

The Grog wrote:Sigh.

Old Wraiths, 6 on charge: 24 attacks, 12 hits, 10 wounds. 3.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.66 on TEQ, 6.66 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6 on charge: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 6 wounds + 1.5 rends. 3.5 casualties on MEQ, 2 on TEQ, 5.5 on GEQ.

Old Wraiths, 6: 18 attacks, 9 hits, 7.5 wound. 2.5 casualties on MEQ, 1.25 on TEQ, 5 on GEQ.

New Wraiths, 6: 12 attacks, 6 hits, 4 wounds + 1 rend. 2.33 casualties on MEQ, 1.33 on TEQ, 3.66 on GEQ.

I hope that extra wound turns out to be awesome, because they lost combat power against everything squishier than a Marine.

EDIT: Usual shorthand butchery of statistical rules apply.

2 wounds, a greater ability to take out vehicles, whips to go first in the open or symo in cover, wounds shenanigans, possible shooting attacks, no trouble moving in cover, and you can take more than 3 in a squad now which when you combine with the decreased cost of warriors, makes the price for a larger squad almost = the old 3 man squad.

You forgot to factor that stuff in.

**The Grog**

Wraiths never had problems moving in cover, ignore the effects of cover when charging, the shooting attacks and the wound allocation differences come with 10+ point price tags, and the number of vehicles that get hit in melee at armor 12 or 13 are miniscule ...

I'd say that no, I didn't forget to factor that in.

**FalkorsRaiders**

Ascalam wrote:Necrons are tall, bony parodies of a certain movie starring the governor of Cali instead :0)

I don't know if many know this, but the Governator is getting a cartoon show. Just thought I'd let people know.

Back on track-
I've never really used wraiths too much, mostly because I only own 2, and metal models hate me, and it took me hours to get the top half and bottom half to stay connected... My point is, from what I read, they wee useful as a pack, 3 squads of 3, and weren't used otherwise. With the max amount seeming to be 6 in a squad, for about 40 points, I wonder if that will change or not. Of course, with the rumors about scarab's being amazing, I think the wraith wing won't be changed.

**davethepak**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Of course they've been discontinued. They're about to be repackaged with half the models for 2/3rds the price.

Don't be silly.

I will be half the models for 4/3rds the price....

and we will still buy them....the shame.

**Sergeant Horse**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Sergeant Horse wrote:I tried to order necron warriors last week and was told they were discontinued.

Nothing that those who roam this forum haven't heard about a dozen times. If you do have new details, you need to come with more of those details.

Who were you ordering from? FLGS? Battle Bunker? GW-online?

What were you ordering? Metals? The only place you can order metals currently is direct from GW, and even they have a few that aren't available anymore.

I was ordering them from my trade rep to stock the shelves. Plastic warriors

**omerakk**

The Grog wrote:Wraiths never had problems moving in cover, ignore the effects of cover when charging, the shooting attacks and the wound allocation differences come with 10+ point price tags, and the number of vehicles that get hit in melee at armor 12 or 13 are miniscule ...

I'd say that no, I didn't forget to factor that in.

So you don't think paying for the extra abilities is worth it, ever?
And larger squads isn't a good thing?

And miniscule?
Guess you haven't been bumping into those gk dreadnought spam lists yet; or a vulcan list with spam dread support.
Personally, I think wraiths being able to actually kill those things now so I don't have to always direct shooting at them, a plus.

**Dr. Temujin**

Kurgash wrote:
EYEofTERROR wrote:I doubt that Necrons will be released anytime this year. Seems like it would steal the thunder from DE. If the release of a new Necron dex will be anything comparable to DE, then I would imagine they would release it in November with a splash release in February. Just like the Dark Eldar. Then they could ride the hype of an all new and spectacular army all year. This is the year of DE, where everyone wanted or bought into Dark Eldar and new releases came out over and over while the hype was still high. Next year will be Necrons.

Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

With SoB being released as a white dwarf codex, it seems like gw is rushing 5th Edition along. I wouldn't be surprised to see Necrons segue into 6th, though it seems like Chaos Marines are usually the first or last codex to be released with every new edition.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

November release??? Really? After all that hype about August?
Thank you, but no sir. While I respect that SoB are in need of a crucial update, and the Sanctuary 101 game sounds great, I simply can't wait for Necrons to be released in November. Can barely wait for August as it is!

**voryn15**

EYEofTERROR wrote:
Seriously though, when are we going to see the release of another Space Marines dex?

Please tell me thats not a serious question.

Edit: Hey look who forgot to read the next page.......

**King of chaos**

bring on the necrons!!

**FalkorsRaiders**

GW - "Not until we update SoB. Hey, at least you can be comfortable and know your codex is the last codex geared solely towards 5th edition rules, but Necrons won't be that great in 5th since we're working on 6th and will gear the next few codexes towards those rules, but Necrons won't be great in 6th either...."

**RutgerMan**

FalkorsRaiders wrote:GW - "Not until we update SoB. Hey, at least you can be comfortable and know your codex is the last codex geared solely towards 5th edition rules, but Necrons won't be that great in 5th since we're working on 6th and will gear the next few codexes towards those rules, but Necrons won't be great in 6th either...."

that's just stupid of GW XD

**Anpu-adom**

Rumors are saying that GK was written with 6th in mind, and Necrons, SoB's and Tau won't 'be left behind' if they come out before 6th either.

**catharsix**

Anpu-adom wrote:Rumors are saying that GK was written with 6th in mind, and Necrons, SoB's and Tau won't 'be left behind' if they come out before 6th either.

how do the GK rules work with the alleged 6th ed. rules floating around from BoK? i'd like to hear that they suggest that the rumors are unfounded wish-listing and nonsense, because they seem ridiculous and cumbersome.

**cyberscape7**

RutgerMan wrote:
FalkorsRaiders wrote:GW - "Not until we update SoB. Hey, at least you can be comfortable and know your codex is the last codex geared solely towards 5th edition rules, but Necrons won't be that great in 5th since we're working on 6th and will gear the next few codexes towards those rules, but Necrons won't be great in 6th either...."

that's just stupid of GW XD

In this day and age, what isn't?

**RutgerMan**

cyberscape7 wrote:
RutgerMan wrote:
FalkorsRaiders wrote:GW - "Not until we update SoB. Hey, at least you can be comfortable and know your codex is the last codex geared solely towards 5th edition rules, but Necrons won't be that great in 5th since we're working on 6th and will gear the next few codexes towards those rules, but Necrons won't be great in 6th either...."

that's just stupid of GW XD

In this day and age, what isn't?

Now that's even a rumor I support completely XD

**nidsrule**

I hope they're coming soon. I just can't wait any longer. I just want to get my hands on a brand new necron codex and some cool new models.

**Kroothawk**

New information by Captain Ventris over at Warseer:

Sisters will be getting a standard book, but it will certainly be coming well after the Necron book. Talked to my source this last weekend. The WD codex for sisters is simply a holdover till 6th ed. for now. Also its apparently a "filler" codex because the necron book and models were delayed in
Production and wouldn't get released till november (this was apparently decided 6 months ago). The WD sisters codex was rushed btw and wasn't thoroughly playtested... Two waves of Necrons are supposed to be released the weekends of Nov. 12 and Dec. 3rd. What models will be in what release is still being discussed, obviously the codex is in the first wave, but he also mentioned that warriors were getting re-cut with the scarabs removed and options added in their place. Scarab swarms are apparently going to a multi-part finecast kit that is more dynamicly posed than just scarabs hovering in place (I'd already done something similar where my scarabs are actuallt bursting from the ground)

Also on an off-topic note, some minor waves are supposed to be released for various armies with 6th ed. One of note that he mentioned was a new eldar jetbike kit with parts to make either 3 guardian jetbikes or 3 Shining Spears.

Take with whatever salt you feel is necessary.

**Nagashek**

Kroothawk wrote:New information by Captain Ventris over at Warseer:

Sisters will be getting a standard book, but it will certainly be coming well after the Necron book. Talked to my source this last weekend. The WD codex for sisters is simply a holdover till 6th ed. for now. Also its apparently a "filler" codex because the necron book and models were delayed in
Production and wouldn't get released till november (this was apparently decided 6 months ago). The WD sisters codex was rushed btw and wasn't thoroughly playtested... Two waves of Necrons are supposed to be released the weekends of Nov. 12 and Dec. 3rd. What models will be in what release is still being discussed, obviously the codex is in the first wave, but he also mentioned that warriors were getting re-cut with the scarabs removed and options added in their place. Scarab swarms are apparently going to a multi-part finecast kit that is more dynamicly posed than just scarabs hovering in place (I'd already done something similar where my scarabs are actuallt bursting from the ground)

Also on an off-topic note, some minor waves are supposed to be released for various armies with 6th ed. One of note that he mentioned was a new eldar jetbike kit with parts to make either 3 guardian jetbikes or 3 Shining Spears.

Take with whatever salt you feel is necessary.

Even if the bold is a guess and purely made up, it sounds more than reasonable, as it reflects what we think GW has been doing for YEARS.

**cyberscape7**

Kroothawk wrote:New information by Captain Ventris over at Warseer:

Sisters will be getting a standard book, but it will certainly be coming well after the Necron book. Talked to my source this last weekend. The WD codex for sisters is simply a holdover till 6th ed. for now. Also its apparently a "filler" codex because the necron book and models were delayed in
Production and wouldn't get released till november (this was apparently decided 6 months ago). The WD sisters codex was rushed btw and wasn't thoroughly playtested... Two waves of Necrons are supposed to be released the weekends of Nov. 12 and Dec. 3rd. What models will be in what release is still being discussed, obviously the codex is in the first wave, but he also mentioned that warriors were getting re-cut with the scarabs removed and options added in their place. Scarab swarms are apparently going to a multi-part finecast kit that is more dynamicly posed than just scarabs hovering in place (I'd already done something similar where my scarabs are actuallt bursting from the ground)

Also on an off-topic note, some minor waves are supposed to be released for various armies with 6th ed. One of note that he mentioned was a new eldar jetbike kit with parts to make either 3 guardian jetbikes or 3 Shining Spears.

Take with whatever salt you feel is necessary.

Only one thing makes me happier thats in this post. It will be possible for me to actually build some guardian jetbikes!!! XD

**SK5556838528**

Hello,

I've just seen a plastic Necron Spyder sprue.

Accidentally caught a glimpse, don't want to say where because I'm still there, but it should be obvious.

Quick details:

Definitely larger; probably closer to a rhino size (in terms of volume)

More elegant design (limbs), but clearly a Spyder. I think I saw some scarabs, not sure.

I saw claw parts and what was either a gun or something that looks a lot like one. Could have been an under-spine or something.

90% sure that's what I saw.

(Yeah, ok, first poster, salt, whatever)