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The Blade of Belakor

This is a powerful weapon, used by Belakor before his ascension to daemonhood. As a daemon prince he stored the weapon in a secret location, not needing it yet not wanting another to wield it. It was stolen from him by Tzeentchian sorcerers after Belakor was cursed, and thus entered into the Old World. It has a twisted sentience of it's own, thirsting for blood and betraying its wielder at its own whim.

For Warriors of Chaos, Daemons of Chaos, Beastmen.

85 points

This is a magic weapon. Any model hit by this weapon must pass both a strength test and a toughness test for each hit. If either test is failed, the model suffers a S8 hit. If both tests are failed, the model suffers a S10 hit. If both tests are passed, the model suffers a S6 hit.

Sword of Secrets: 45 Points

"This ancient blade whispers to it's wielder, though the voices drive the wielder insane."

Before the battle begins, a player with a character wielding the Sword of Secrets may ask their opponent to reveal "hidden" units, such as Dark Elf Assassins, Nasty Skulkers, Night Goblin Fanatics, and other units which are deployed secretly.

Additionally, the weapon grants ASF and a 5+ Ward Save to the wielder. However, at the start of the controlling player's turn, roll a D6. On the roll of a 1 or 2, the character suffers from the stupidity special rule.

I don't like 2 attribute tests. First, I don't think those ever happen. Second, it makes it really likely the user fails. Third, that's a gigantic number of tests. If a hero has 5 attacks that's 5 rolls to hit, potentially 10 attribute tests, then back to normal saves. And each save results in a test at different strength, so you can't roll them all at one go. Too much dice and individual rolls. Pointwise it's probably not bad, since anyone who can afford >50pts is likely a Lord with near 6S, but it's just the mechanic that makes it cumbersome.

Sword of Secrets, I'm not sure if you should add wards/armor to weapons. And 1/3rd chance of being stupid on a hero who likely has great LD isn't a big enough penalty to lower the cost of these buffs, which would make the weapon much more expensive. There's an overwhelming likelihood of this weapon being better than the sum of its parts. Even if it was Stupidity 100%, no one is going to take it unless they have super high LD and then it's still cheaper than buying those items separately. The extra roll is extraneous.

The more I was thinking about it, I wasn't fond of stupidity. I was thinking about adding an initiative bonus instead of the 5+ ward as well.

Any suggestions on detriments that would fit nicely?

Always Strike First: let's say 25pts.

Revealing secret stuff: automatically, across the board, at the beginning of the game? I'd say 40pts or something in that range. Within 18", I'd drop it to 25pts.

Getting two abilities on one item is better than one ability each on two, because of slot-limitation, but a point premium for that sort of thing is really tricky, because of magic item allowances anyway. So I'd bump it all by 10, maybe 15pts.

I'd also just say the Sword automatically makes you Stupid. Look at Azag's Crown. It gives him the Stupidity special rule for exactly the same reason as the Sword would; multiple voices in your head gets confusing.
It might not be a big penalty, but I think it'd be enough to drop the sword down to 45pts again.

So: Sword of Secrets (magic weapon) 45pts: grants the user the Always Strikes First and Stupidity special rules. Any unit coming within 18" of the weilder must reveal any hidden models, such as Assassins, Fanatics, or Nasty Skulkers.

I think that's fair. Auto stupid is the way to go. And even if it's unlikely to be much of a detriment, it's still a chance your Lord could stand there drooling. And Stupidity adds ITP.

If you don't want Stupid and the ward, I'm not sure about +I. +I and ASF makes it really likely you get those rerolls and it becomes a more expensive weapon. Especially because you can give it to a slow lord like a Tomb King. Those abilities affect each other directly.

Like if a bow gave +BS and Multishot.

There's an interesting idea. Most armies have a Big Weapon, but since Wood Elves are so shoot-y anyway, it could be a bow...

Bow of the Wild Wood (Wood Elves only, magic weapon) 90pts: longbow. Grants the wielder the Multiple Wounds (D3) and Sniper special rules regarding attacks made with this weapon. Any successful hit with the Bow of the Wild Wood will always wound on a 3+, with no armour saves allowed.

Falx

The falx is a sword-stave, with the blade curved forward and sharpened on the concave edge only. It is a particularly brutal weapon, capable of destroying armor and limbs with ease. It is customarily wielded in long looping arcs, removing limbs and heads, and is capable of splitting shields in half with a single blow. Therefore, it is almost always issued to frontline formation-breaking units.

Any Chaos Warrior or Chosen may take a falx for 3 points each.

This is a melee weapon that is two-handed, gives +1 Strength, and has the armor piercing and extra attack special rules

Heaven Sender 40 points

Arch Lector / Warrior Priest only.
Mace (hand weapon). Against any model classed as daemon / undead (for example taken from the TK, VC or DoC army book) bearer has Killing Blow. Any wounds caused would allow unstable/'crumble' to be doubled (after modifiers).

Both items are for Storm of Magic only

The Staff of Nagash

285 points

This is an incredibly powerful artefact, long thought lost in the aftermath of Nagash's defeat by Sigmar.

Arcane Item. The user gains +4 to cast and dispel. Furthermore, It provides Magic Resistance 4, a 4+ ward save, and contains the Purple Sun spell as a bound spell with power level 12.

Mortis

380 points

Mortis was the blade used by Nagash. It shattered Sigmar's rune-forged armor with the slightest touch.

Magic Weapon. Any model hit by this weapon immediately looses all items of armour, with the exception of bonuses for being mounted or barding on mounts. Any model that suffers an unsaved wound must immediately pass a Toughness test as well as an Initiative test. If either is failed, the model is removed exactly as though it had suffered an unsaved wound from Heroic Killing Blow.

The Phoenix Blade - 100 pts

Grants its user flaming attacks.

If its user is killed; the Phoenix Blade explodes in a fiery conflagration: center the small template over the model--all models it touches must pass an Initiative Test or take a Str 5 hit (fire damage). The user is instantly resurrected with 1 wound (but the Phoenix Blade is destroyed and no longer grants flaming attacks or any more resurrections).

Revised version of something i did earlier

The Sword of Khaine, Widowmaker

500 points

Storm of Magic only, High Elves or Dark Elves only

All attacks hit and wound automatically. No armor saves allowed. Successful ward saves must be re-rolled. Multiple wounds (D6).

Horn of Quickening (Bretonnia only) 40pts

The Character and any units joined with him gain ASF on turns that they charge.

Hell-render,
60pts,
WOC only, whenever this weapon causes an unsaved wound, roll a d6, on a six, the scythe has torn a rift into the warp and pulled a hapless lesser daemon out of its domain, woe betide those that arent killed by the bite of the sythe but by the deamon now crawling out of his wound.
If the model has multiple wounds, it takes D3 strength 8 hits as the deamon emerges within him, if the model is killed, put a lesser deamon* where the model last was, it now is treated as an attachment to the character, and follows him just as any other model in his unit would. (if the character join a unit with a deamon following him, the daemon just joins/leaves the unit with the character)

Mark of khorne: bloodletter
Mark of tzeentch: pink horror
Mark of slaneesh: daemonette
Mark of nurgle: plaguebearer
Undivided: furie

 Hautamaki wrote:
The Phoenix Blade - 100 pts

Grants its user flaming attacks.

If its user is killed; the Phoenix Blade explodes in a fiery conflagration: center the small template over the model--all models it touches must pass an Initiative Test or take a Str 5 hit (fire damage). The user is instantly resurrected with 1 wound (but the Phoenix Blade is destroyed and no longer grants flaming attacks or any more resurrections).

Caradryan already carries the Phoenix Blade though.


Sol Blade - 100 points

The wielder's attacks gain the Multiple Wounds (D6) and Flaming Attacks special rules. The wielder may, instead of attacking normally, replace all his normal attacks with one Thunderstomp per attack, following the normal rules for Thunderstomps.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Hautamaki wrote:
The Phoenix Blade - 100 pts

Grants its user flaming attacks.

If its user is killed; the Phoenix Blade explodes in a fiery conflagration: center the small template over the model--all models it touches must pass an Initiative Test or take a Str 5 hit (fire damage). The user is instantly resurrected with 1 wound (but the Phoenix Blade is destroyed and no longer grants flaming attacks or any more resurrections).

Caradryan already carries the Phoenix Blade though.


Sol Blade - 100 points

The wielder's attacks gain the Multiple Wounds (D6) and Flaming Attacks special rules. The wielder may, instead of attacking normally, replace all his normal attacks with one Thunderstomp per attack, following the normal rules for Thunderstomps.

serious? no chance in hell. give that to a greater daemon of khorne and that is up to 72 S6 hits. no way

I'd like to see a balloon type machine (either for Empire or Dwarfs). Kind of like the gyrocopter with a steam engine, and give it options like dropping bubbling oil. I think outfitting it with a cannon would be clunky, maybe rockets or volley gun barrels. And have it earn steam points like the tank to spend them on moving or using weapons.

Yah multi wounds D6 and flaming is way too much. Even though GD can't take any magic items

A GUO can get a Balesword that does D6 no flaming for 75 pts. But he only has 4 attacks and he's the only unit that can take it. Oh, and he costs 450 base.

Frostborn

This ice-bound rune sword belongs to the ruler of Kislev, and is seen as a symbol of their authority alongside the Sceptre of Ice. It is currently wielded by the Tzarina Katarin, the Ice Queen.

Points: 100

Type: Magic weapon

The user strikes with +2 Strength and ignores armour. In addition, once per game, it may be used as a breath weapon that is Strength 4 Armor Piercing. It also grants a 5+ ward save and Magic Resistance 1 to the bearer. All models in base contact with the bearer, excepting the bearer herself, have the ASL rule.






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Sceptre of Ice

This is the staff of office for the Tzarina Katarin of Kislev. It has powerful magical enchantments bound within its haft, augmenting the Queen's Ice magic.

Type: Enchanted item

Grants +1 to cast and dispel. Grants Loremaster: Heavens. Also gives +1 dispel and power dice a turn, and makes the bearer cause Terror.

While I'm at it...

Tzarina Katarin, the Ice Queen of Kislev

400 points

Type: Infantry (unique)

M4 WS5 BS4 S4 T4 W3 I4 A3 Ld10

Equipment: Heavy armour, pegasus

Frostborn: See above

Sceptre of Ice: See above

Magic: Tzarina Katarin is a level 3 wizard.

Special Rules:

Hold the Line! (see the Empire armybook)

Starfire

Starfire was the last weapon forged using the Hammer of Vaul before Hotek stole it during his defection. It is forged from magic-bound gromril, layered and folded over 10,000 times. Originally commissioned as a two-handed great sword for the Prince of Caledor, it was broken in battle against Malekith's Destroyer, and subsequently re-forged into a longsword. The reforging was flawed, however, and a hairline crack developed unseen. This flaw was exploited by the Dwarf Thane Morgrim, when he duelled it's bearer, Imladrik of Caledor, during the War of the Beard. At the battle's climax, Morgrim's rune axe shattered Starfire and continued through the Prince's neck.

55 points

Magic Weapon. Grants +2 Strength and ignores armour. However, at the end of each combat phase, roll a D6. On a 1, the blade has shattered. Starfire is destroyed and may not be used for the rest of the game. In addition, due to the shock of having his weapon shattered, enemy models automatically hit the bearer in the next combat phase, and may re-roll all failed to wound rolls against him as well.


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Mantle of the Poisonblade

This dark cloak was worn by Urien Poisonblade, Malekith's Champion, who fell to Tyrion in single combat.

35 points

Magic Armor. Grants +1 to armor save. Wearer causes Terror and gains Scout and Skirmisher.


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The Self-Repeating Multi-barrelled Pepper-Pot Handgun

20 points

Range 12 Strength 4 Armor Piercing Multiple Shots (Artillery Dice)

No roll to hit is necessary: the dense cloud of pellets ensures a through pulping of it's target and any bystanders.

If a Misfire is rolled, the unreliable handgun explodes. The bearer and all models in base contact take a single S4 hit each.

Sword of the priority

Bearer's initiative is increased to 10 and he gains the ASF rule.
Additionally all models in a bearer's unit get 2 plus inciative in the first round of close combat.

65 points

The Armour of white mist

A light armour offering a 5 plus save. Every time the bearer gets wounded , armour release mist which smears the image of the beare and makes it indistinctive. If bearer suffers a wound all enemy models in base contact with the bearer get minus 1 hit penalty. This process can repeated up to 3 times and the maximum hit penalty models can get is minus 3. Furthermore If a model wounds the bearer more then one time in a close combat phase it' need to reroll to hit.

75 points

That last one's a bit awkward. I'd say something like:

Armour of White Mist (75pts, Magic Armour): light armour. The wearer of this opalescent chain shirt gains a 5+ Ward save. In addition, all other models engaged in the same close combat as the wearer suffer -1 to hit.

@cox.dan2: check out my Dwarf Fandex in the Proposed Rules section. It's got a Zepplin, and they drop Thundercasks:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/483775.page

How about:

The force shield of reflectance

A magical shield that can reflect blows back at enemy. The bearer get's 5+ ward save. Whenever a ward save is taken succesfully a atack is reflected back at enemy. Such a attack hits automatically and is resolved with the strenght of the model that performed it (including the strength bonus from weapons). Additionaly if a magic missile is cast succesfully against the bearer or the unit that the bearer joins, it might be reflected back at the caster on 4+.

pls suggest a better name for a shield

50 pts

ultimate hero slayer( Wood elfs and Bretonia only)

This blade was foreged to slay those who triumphed in many duels . If your oponent does't accept a challenge then a unit that an enemy charakter is fighting in must pass a leadership test or will flee. During a duel it grants user a 5+ kiling blow.

50pts

Banner of Aenarion

This is the personal banner of the first Phoenix King, Aenarion the Defender. It was carried into battle by Eoloran Anar, and long thought lost following the persecution of the Anars by Malekith.

125 points

Magic Banner. All friendly units within 18 inches of the bearer gain Immune to Psychology and Hatred (Daemons)


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Karaghul

This blade was given to Felix Jaeger by the Templar Order of the Fiery Heart. It was forged to be the bane of dragon kind.

50 points

Magic Weapon. Has Heroic Killing Blow against dragons of any sort, Kholek suneater, dragon ogres, dragon ogre shaggoths, wyverns, etc. Ignores scaly skin saves.

Sky Piercer

This halberd belonged to the legendary Lu Bu, warrior of the Cathay. He was said to have never lost in personal combat, though he was an arrogant and ineffective commander. He was captured by his enemies whilst asleep and smothered to death, denied a warrior's passing, and his name is now a byword for pride.

85 points

Magic Weapon. Requires 2 hands. Grants +2 Strength. If mounted and charging, grants +3 Strength on the charge instead. Armor Piercing. Flaming Attacks. Multiple Wounds (D3). Terror.

The banner of perforating arrow storm. . ( wood elfs only) A magic banner. All units whitin 6 get armour piercing rule, and their shooting attacks are resolved with + 1 strenght. 150 pts

devestator 7777777 wrote:
The banner of perforating arrow storm. . ( wood elfs only) A magic banner. All units whitin 6 get armour piercing rule, + 1 bs and their shooting attacks are resolved with + 1 strenght. 150 pts

So basically you get maybe 2 units of glade guard who are hitting on 2s at S5 armor piercing when within 15 inches? no. even for 150 points that is way way too good. Make it either +1 BS, +1 S, or armor piercing, not all 3

definately

The Claw of Nagash

When Alcadizzar slew Nagash, his first blow severed the necromancer's right hand. This is the only remaining part of Nagash's original body, the rest having been burnt by the Skaven. It consists of Nagash's warpstone-mutated skeletal hand, encased in the gauntlet of his Black Armor.

100 points

Arcane Item. This item casts the 18+ version of Invocation of Nehek as a bound spell with power level 5. In addition, if a miscast is rolled, instead of the item being destroyed, the bearer suffers 1 wound with no saves of any kind allowed, that CANNOT be healed or regained in any way

Avanuir

This magical blade was the first sword forged for and used by Malekith. He used it until his defeat by Caledor, where he left it on the field of battle while he fled. Rumor persists that it is one and the same as Sunfang, the heirloom sword currently in possession of Tyrion.

90 points

Magic Weapon. Gives +3 Strength, ignores armour saves. Flaming attacks. May be used as a S4 breath weapon with the Flaming and Magical rules.