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I did have hopes that this foreshadowed a licensing deal, but sadly that is not the case.

I know for a fact that AB40k files aren't going anywhere, but there are changes being made to it in order to prevent any possible legal action(i.e. compliance).

No one is going underground. It hasn't gotten that bad, at least not yet.

That said, you can bet your ass that if GW sued AB or the file creators, the internet would get pissed off and start doing underground files. There are already people doing that with ABv2 files since it is no longer supported. It wouldn't be any different with v3.

It has been long said that GW should just license with AB. It would be a win for everyone involved. But since when does GW do anything that would benefit anyone besides just themselves?

f AB is forced underground to keep going, then there's very little incentive to comply with any previous agreement, including waiting 1 month after a new codex is released.

Hell yea. Call me a dirty thief, but it's actions like these on GW's behalf that push me to do things like making pdf codexes and BRBs. I know it won't affect them really, but in my mind I'm like...





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 Aerethan wrote:
I did have hopes that this foreshadowed a licensing deal, but sadly that is not the case.

I know for a fact that AB40k files aren't going anywhere, but there are changes being made to it in order to prevent any possible legal action(i.e. compliance).

No one is going underground. It hasn't gotten that bad, at least not yet.

That said, you can bet your ass that if GW sued AB or the file creators, the internet would get pissed off and start doing underground files. There are already people doing that with ABv2 files since it is no longer supported. It wouldn't be any different with v3.

It has been long said that GW should just license with AB. It would be a win for everyone involved. But since when does GW do anything that would benefit anyone besides just themselves?

I'm not sure that you or anyone else really wants that if you think about how it would work. Lonewolf almost lured me into buying HeroLab, for the purposes of running my Pathfinder campaign. Then I saw how they worked the exclusive licensed content.. Basically, you pay 29.99 for Hero Lab then pay anywhere between 10 and 20$ for content from every book you want access to. It gets up there pretty quick.

I can easily imagine paying for AB, 20 bucks a codex, 20 bucks for access to IA and Apoc units, 20 bucks for the right to print... well, you get the point. It would get pricey real quick.

While of course here on dakka we can't publicly condone piracy, that pic did make me chuckle.

Also, that particular PDF was out 4 days after the book released. At least AB files take a month.

But I agree, such actions by GW put a bad taste in players mouths, making things like piracy flare up in a fit of spite.


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The licensing would need to be all inclusive at a single price in order for people to actually buy it.

If AB was $40 and the OFFICIAL 40k and fantasy files were $20 a year, then sure, I'd buy that. But I agree that if GW and AB compartmentalized the process, no one would use it and everyone would just use BS.

Agreed. Even if AB didn't leave anything out of the files AT ALL, I'd still buy the codex.

 Moopy wrote:
That bear isn't sleeping, it's looking in the kitchen window. If GW's going to attack people who make a product that helps play 40k, and has gone out of the way to make sure it doesn't compete/eclipse GW's products, I'm not pleased. When their actions devalue the product that I paid for, after years of being a-ok with what's going on, I move to pissed.

If AB is forced underground to keep going, then there's very little incentive to comply with any previous agreement, including waiting 1 month after a new codex is released.

Damn if this is isn't a stupid turn of events.

First to clarify. There has never been any official agreement between GW and the Datafile Maintainers regarding anything in the files or how the files have been made available. The 1 month embargo has been an internal decision that has been made to help eliminate getting GW attention as the files are limited use for a month or so after each new release.

Secondly, the reasons of continuing to made decisions that would better comply with any sort of legal situation is more to protect the maintainer group than anything else. We enjoy making the datafiles, using the tool and creating lists, but see where our programming tendencies have maybe allowed for higher scrutiny from GW. The attempt now is to clear up any of that, making the files used for what they were intended(as Army list making tool) and less for what they were getting used for (a way to play 40k without actually owning any rulebooks).

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/3rw2niclvgz61xs/AB40K6v1_04.ab?dl=1

1.4 released today

Thank you for your effort, Aerethan.

Thanks for posting updates

Noticed 1.05 is out is it getting tossed on dropbox?

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/tn6o49fb4lz9vqw/AB40K6v1_05.ab?dl=1

1.5 added

1.06 is out now.

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/msu8o7ikoz6e1y9/AB40K6v1_06.ab?dl=1

Aerethan, are these the same files that install if using the built-in updater in AB? Sorry for the dumb question.

 coyotius wrote:
Aerethan, are these the same files that install if using the built-in updater in AB? Sorry for the dumb question.

I believe it is, my auto updated just downloaded 1.6

 coyotius wrote:
Aerethan, are these the same files that install if using the built-in updater in AB? Sorry for the dumb question.

Yes. The links I post here are the same links given on the AB data file downloads page. Some people(myself included) have expired licenses, so auto update doesn't work anymore. When the first 6th edition file went live some people here were having trouble locating it, so I've been mirroring the files here to make it a little easier and more accessible.

I check every few days for updates, but every now and then someone beats me to it and lets me know that a new file is out(like yesterday, I was gone all day when it was released).

Luckily maintaining this thread is quite effortless.

Thanks guys...I'm catching up on all the AB news after crawling out from under my rock and was wondering about the need to manually update. Question answered.

As far as the AB40k.org group, I have confirmation that they are not quitting. They have implemented what they are calling "compliance" which gives page references for USR's and most(iirc) codex specific rules.

Technically the old files didn't actually infringe any patent for the game, but the compliance measures were added to lessen pressure from GW. Those changes were made after outside council, and should not be seen as the file writers buckling under pressure from GW to stop.

So fear not, the files will keep coming. Only now you have to page flip a lot more than in previous editions.

"compliance measures were added to lessen pressure from GW"


"and should not be seen as the file writers buckling under pressure from GW"

 Thunderfrog wrote:
"compliance measures were added to lessen pressure from GW"


"and should not be seen as the file writers buckling under pressure from GW"

context and definitions are fun. The decision to add compliance was made after legal counsel, not by GW. GW threatened, so they adjusted their methods, not quit. And lessening pressure isn't the same as buckling. If they had buckled under the pressure, they wouldn't still be writing files.

They responded to pressure being put on them, instead of closing shop.

I should also add that I am in no way involved with the AB40k team. I just link the damn files.

I for one thank you for mirroring the files. this is a big help especially since I have a job and a 2 year old at home. Toddlers make gaming interesting.

^ seconding, thank you ~

thank you thank you

V1.07 is now available.

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/zungncnheyl3y8x/AB40K6v1_07.ab?dl=1

*HUG*

Thank you Aerethan for doing what you do!

Aerethan, +2

Do you think you will be able to update the Imperial Armor section for 40k to include the changes to some of the flyers from the Imperial Armor: Aeronautica?

 Enigma Crisis wrote:
Do you think you will be able to update the Imperial Armor section for 40k to include the changes to some of the flyers from the Imperial Armor: Aeronautica?

I'm not the author of the files, nor am I associated with them in any way. I just link the files here for convenience to Dakka users.

If you wish to discuss the files with the authors, register on www.ab40k.com and post on their forum, as I'm not sure how often they check Dakka, let alone my little thread here.

 Aerethan wrote:

 Enigma Crisis wrote:
Do you think you will be able to update the Imperial Armor section for 40k to include the changes to some of the flyers from the Imperial Armor: Aeronautica?

I'm not the author of the files, nor am I associated with them in any way. I just link the files here for convenience to Dakka users.

If you wish to discuss the files with the authors, register on www.ab40k.com and post on their forum, as I'm not sure how often they check Dakka, let alone my little thread here.

Ah ok thanks for the info