Switch Theme:

Battle Systems Terrain Kickstarter - Updates thread  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in im
Regular Dakkanaut





Started on one stronghold - now on 2.

Going in deep on this one!
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

I'm only in for a pound right now, but as soon as I figure out what I'm putting down on MA, verify that there is nothing else that I can't live without modeling wise (likely), and sort out just how poor I am after funding too many campaigns... I plan to do at least one stronghold, with strong urges for two.

A single stronghold would work for deadzone, for an interior board. I was typing up on figuring out a way to adapt it to deadzone's 3x3" cubes, since for some reason I thought they didn't match... But yeah, stupid me, I was thinking in terms of 8" floor tiles, and not the fact that 3 of those makes 24" total space, and 3 inch grids obviously make a 3" space. DUR, total week long brainfart there

Anyway, now that I've destroyed all credibility...

I was thinking of doing a BS/DZ tiles combo involving DZ tiles assembled as containers (as that's technically what they were before they were converted into buildings by colonists) held in a central hold of a board built out of BS tiles. Maybe get an extra floor pack, but then just cover that with DZ stuff, and surround it with BS rooms, walks and gantries. Defend the cargo! The big haul. Etc, fun scenarios abound!

Oh, and if they make a fantasy set.... Holy crap I'm doomed. This stuff is perfectly amazing for making a modular, build-as-you-go dungeon. Perfect for D&D, Pathfinder, or whatever the cool kids are throwing dice at these days

 
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

Hahah yeah it looks like the deadzone rules will work well in this terrain.

My concern with using deadzone inside this terrain, is that the deadzone stuff is pretty damn big I think, it might seem out of place being bigger inside this smaller-seeming terrain. The reverse however, with the deadzone terrain "outside", representing outlying smaller buildings should let you use say 2 strongholds on a 2x4 part of a board, and deadzone terrain on a 4x4 part of a board, for a nice large outdoors + indoors 6x4 board packed with terrain. Since I have something like 14 deadzone battlezones, I'm quite keen on ensuring they get used though ; p
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut





Already have Bug Hunt Corridors coming and I only went in on Deadzone for the terrain so I've already got enough SF coming. But damn, I'm amazed by this stuff. I'm in.
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Yeah, I was thinking of a sweet Infinity configuration involving a warehouse in the middle 2x4' of the board with maybe a parking lot or similar on one end, maybe a couple of watch towers, and then a back alley for some skullduggery.

 
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

I'm liking the free additions to stronghold with the stretch goals. More into the multi level terrain since that just seems ridiculously awesome, but if I went for the single level terrain it would probably be to more accurately represent the interior of a ship I'd say. Which could be a good thing too ; p

Update #10 Nov 9, 2013
Mini update - New Pledge.... ?
Spoiler:
Well we are having fun. It's another two stretches gone and on to the next two.

As we progress through the KS, (rather more quickly than we anticipated. lol), it has come to our attention that a few people would like some more single level play. What we are looking at is a pledge level that would be single level only at the same value as the stronghold. This would be very similar to our 'Station' pledge level, only with more components. A few more floor tiles and walls to expand it. It would also be open to any Stretch goals that contain single level components... like Stretches 1, 2, 3, & 9. Add-on's can be purchased too as normal, so you can stick that Medi-Bay in there when it's unlocked. )

Anyone who pledges on it will of course automatically get the stretch goal 1,2,3 & 9 and any other Single level goals. We will mark these clearly so that you can see them.

Will need to put a list together for you guys, so will work on that and do a picture so you can see what this looks like. )

We are running on a 3G network at the moment with low signal due to local cable problems. so no shiny pics tonight. I have been informed that this will be repaired by 9am GMT tomorrow so should be back to normal soon )

We are still moving steady and knocking those goals so keep spreading the word, it takes quite a few prods to get some to notice so go go go. )

Over and out for now. )

Colin
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

@Yonan, only a very boring ship Any large ship would easily have multiple levels. And a big cargo bay with huge containers would necessarily have multiple floors and perhaps an observation tower as well

If you're talking like a small freighter or something in between a fighter and a war ship, big enough to have more than one actual room but not really thick... then I guess so. But lots of big ships have multiple decks

 
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

You'd *definitely* want multiple levels for the ships, but not gantries as such which make up the multi-level aspect currently. So you'd represent multiple levels on the ship with multiple single levels imo, rather than using gantries or walkways for the most part.

This sort of illustrates my point, I couldn't think of a word other than "midsection" to google to find a sci-fi one. Each level is a discrete entity with only limited ladder/stair access to the next so you don't want to have multiple levels stacked on top of each other while you're playing. Side by side maybe, or rearrange the current level to match the next (which should be quick) perhaps.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/09 02:16:41


 
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Ahh well yes, I guess you make a pretty strong point there

I was thinking along the same lines but warping my reasoning to make my point sound better :p

I still say there are some bits on the interior of a space ship that would do well with multiple levels like a star-trek style multi-level warp core room, or a big cargo bay

 
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

Yeah some will for sure, the two you mention are very likely candidates. I'm not gonna go for the single level terrain pledges. Worst case, is I just buy more strongholds so I have more fodder for the board ; p
   
Made in us
Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?





Fort Worth, TX

I'm in at the Stronghold x4 level. I figure all of that, and some extra floor tile sets, will make a good 6'x4' board.

"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me."
- Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks 
   
Made in ie
Fixture of Dakka








Update #11

Nov 9, 2013
Behind the curtain... and moving forward...
2 comments
7 likes

Hi All,

Well we've been busy today sorting out some of the future fun for this set. We want to add additional content to the rooms. The stronghold already comes with tons of fun, but we can always add more. To give you an idea of just one of the items we are working on I've added some pictures below to show you just what goes into each piece.

Lockers...

First we use some good old graph paper and spend hours sketching the idea... err, well about a minute. lol



a 1 minute sketch.

Then we hit... The Tablet. This is where the hours really get put in. We start with a line drawing at 1 pixel width. Then we build the basic laters up in very much the way you paint your miniatures. After this we put in what we call the recesses. These bring the whole thing to life and make the illusion of the surface. It's a fine line, you don't want it too real to life otherwise it just looks dull and does not fit with the fantasy world of the minis. On the other hand you don't want it too cartoon like otherwise it just doesn't work. This took us some time to perfect and is the stage that really ramps up the hours.



adding the final touches

Once this is done, it's straight onto the printer and then it's sealed to the card. It's all cut out and we check the fit. If adjustments are needed we make notes and hit the tablet again. On this locker, there were no adjustments needed, got it right first time. )

(looks smug)



Pre assemble build.

Then it's simply slotted together and chucked straight onto some walls. Like the Clone Chambers and Wall Screens this also clips onto the walls and is very securely held in place.



The final Prototype. )



Arranged in a line

Now we are into the 'middle two' of the KS we will be spending lots of our time doing the above in preparation for the each stage of the KS journey. We will still be there on the comments and you will still have to endure my joke of the night, but we will also be spending a lot of time developing to make you as much content as we can. We said in our main KS video that our real goal is to be able to have a game where your miniatures can move from a command centre, through to an engineering plant, then onto a medical bay... Well in two stretch goals time we will have achieved that and hopefully still have quite a few days to get through on this KS. So we are still planning on giving lots more free core set items with new items too when we hit the goals that allow us to make a new tool. We are moving onwards and upwards, thanks to your support.

Where will your miniatures be heading next...?

Over and out for now.

Colin


Stronghold to date:

Spoiler:



This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/11/09 23:05:01


 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Thats..... a lot of stuff! I'm in at the EB stronghold x2 so I'm getting x2 of all the stretch goals. Not sure what I will do with it all, maybe an military district and large military building!
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

I like the communication from these guys, even giving us a peek into development! The lockers look good, I love how their terrain is just so full of stuff, rather than straight sterile walls. Impressive accomplishment for cardstock.
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Lockers are amazing, anything giving more 3d like that.

 
   
Made in ca
Conniving Informer





Mostly Harmless

 Yonan wrote:
I like the communication from these guys, even giving us a peek into development! The lockers look good, I love how their terrain is just so full of stuff, rather than straight sterile walls. Impressive accomplishment for cardstock.


That's what got me too. Usually I hate card terrain. It looks flat and bland and just generally sucks. But this stuff? It's awesome. One look at it and all I could think is "damn, that looks like Doom or Quake or some such, I must have it!"

 
   
Made in de
Decrepit Dakkanaut












Hive Fleet Ouroboros (my Tyranid blog): http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/286852.page
The Dusk-Wraiths of Szith Morcane (my Dark Eldar blog): http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364786.page
Kroothawk's Malifaux Blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/455759.page
If you want to understand the concept of the "Greater Good", read this article, and you never again call Tau commies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism 
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Hmm thanks for posting

Good to see things moving along, and its pretty cool to see the sheer walls clearly laid out too.

 
   
Made in ie
Fixture of Dakka






Project Update #12: THE BIG BANG.... IS COMING...
Posted by Battle Systems Ltd ♥ Like

Well we are on the cusp...

When we started the KS we were hoping we would be funded within 1-2 weeks and then hit some stretch goals in the final couple of weeks. However after doing about £10k in as many minutes and being fully funded in four hours, we realised we might have been a little reserved. lol

We had a plan and at the very end of the plan was the hope that if it went really well we might get £70K, but dare not say it. After 10 days we are bordering £100K ... amazing.

This is mostly due to the support of the community we have here. We feel like we know many of you really well and you guys have been working hard behind the scenes to shout about us. Some of you have been actively offering to help and even offering to sacrifice your own time to assist in various areas of the KS, this is truly wonderful and we thank you and all who have supported us on every level.

So that's enough of that sloppy stuff... What next...

The next stretch goals are up and ready to be knocked over and into your parcel when it arrives.

First up is a new Stretch Goal. We are calling this the 'Mini Goal'. This is a Re-Skin, an upgrade to the designs and we are starting with the cargo crates. We will take the prototype of the below Plasma Crate and work it into the main set. This means that one in five of your crates will now be a plasma version. So far (with stretch goals) you are getting 15 Crates so this means 3 of them will now be Plasmas... ...Might think twice before taking cover behind those ones ) Watch out for new Mini Goals.

£105,000

Err, Cap... are you sure you want to hide behind this?

Next... it's time to give you more core product and it's Walls, that's more flexibility right there on your builds so you can go that little bit higher or wider. You just can't have enough walls.

£110,000

Bang... more walls. Just like that.

Finally we have more core product with x3 Crates, x1 Command Screen and x1 V-Console. Crates are essential cover and will play a big part in your skirmishes and campaigns (especially if you are now blowing up the plasma ones ;o) and you really will want every room to have at least some kind of computer terminal or display. We might have a Mini Goal just before this one, depending on the time we have available. )

£120,000

Ah yes, things to hind behind and target. D

... In other news we have put a 3D graphic together for the HULK pledge and I will be testing it's flexibility over the next few days. This means I will be taking all the components and test building. I will probably finish this on Wednesday or Thursday night and we should have this pledge up and available by the weekend. We will give you another update on this before we finish and actually put the pledge up.

Also I'm working on the next tool, there is actually two tools, one a complete tool that is themed as a stand alone set (like the media-bay) the other is a mixed bag of new items that will help bulk up your set with furniture fun, it will include the lockers that you have already seen.

So there we have it. All in all a jolly nice lot of kit. We said we wanted to give you much more than will be available in the retail box when it hits the shelves and we are certainly living up to that goal. )

Best wishes to you all.

Colin

   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

Won't say no to more walls! (or other gubbins)
   
Made in us
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba




The Great State of New Jersey

I'm in for 2 strongholds... but damnit I want 8...

CoALabaer wrote:
Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
 
   
Made in ca
Plastictrees





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm in for 2 strongholds... but damnit I want 8...


Find a nice piece of land, build a Battle System house...living the dream.
   
Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Oooh, the plasma crates are pretty sexy. Now that I'm out of other kickstarters, I get to start moving money around to see what I can really do here. Hoping I can do 2 strongholds, but maybe just one and some choice add-ons will suffice

 
   
Made in au
Oberstleutnant






Perth, West Australia

There we go, £100K.

Very happy with the added value to this so far, and sounds like they'll be looking into adding damaged terrain as an option based off KS comments. Acid splashes were mentioned in relation to AvP, blast damage etc. Deadzone had damaged terrain kits which I snagged a couple of, I'd likely do the same with these too for added variety.
   
Made in au
Sinister Chaos Marine





Cairns, Australia

 Username Invalid wrote:
One look at it and all I could think is "damn, that looks like Doom or Quake or some such, I must have it!"


I've been thinking Half-Life. This is really cool cardstock terrain. Needs a few more damaged and blood stained panels.

I'd love to get in on this and AvP, but I have some other hobby irons in the fire that are taking precedence.
   
Made in ph
PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant





I've managed to resist backing any Kickstater since Sedition Wars, but my willpower is slowly crumbling on this one D:

DA:70+S--G-M+B++I+Pw40k09++DA+/hWD-R-T(BG)DM+  
   
Made in gb
Omnious Orc Shaman





A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

Yeah, this is getting so tempting to go along with AvP...

My only concern is the longevitity of this stuff - it appears to be printed stickers stuck onto card - or is it foamcard? How succeptible to warping / bending is this stuff and how long will the joins last?

   
Made in jp
[DCM]
Incorporating Wet-Blending





Japan

 Ruglud wrote:
Yeah, this is getting so tempting to go along with AvP...

My only concern is the longevitity of this stuff - it appears to be printed stickers stuck onto card - or is it foamcard? How succeptible to warping / bending is this stuff and how long will the joins last?


That's what you were supposed to do with the DLC. I'm pretty sure that the Kickstarter is supposed to fund printing the terrain on the heavy card as well as the tools to cut it out.

Now showing more Samurai Marines, Bad Squiddo Amazons, and an Oldhammer Chaos Thug!

Painting total as of 3/28/2024: 21 plus a set of modular spaceship terrain

Painting total for 2023: 79 plus 28 Battlemechs and a Dragon-Balrog

 
   
Made in de
Decrepit Dakkanaut







I think they are aiming at Terraclips quality.

Hive Fleet Ouroboros (my Tyranid blog): http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/286852.page
The Dusk-Wraiths of Szith Morcane (my Dark Eldar blog): http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364786.page
Kroothawk's Malifaux Blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/455759.page
If you want to understand the concept of the "Greater Good", read this article, and you never again call Tau commies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut





Ottawa, Ontario

Pretty pumped to use this as a deadzone board or as half a board with other half being outside and having some sort of assault the complex misson would be pretty cool! I'm in for a stronghold right, may be tempted for some addons such as the med-bay but stronghold has so much stuff already it will be hard to justify!

DC:80+s---GM--B--I--Pw40k09-D+A++/eWD-R+T(M)DM+

 
   
 
Forum Index » Dakka Discussions
Go to: