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2014/04/01 12:20:55
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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I don't like eldar tbh. Their fluff just seems like it makes no sense. They have magical powers that flow from warp gates and I have no idea what I'm talking about anyway. But anyway, the only thing I like is the aspects, but even there I don't like any one aspect a lot. I started off with a Khorne CSM army, so the idea of specialized groups is there for me, but still...
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2014/04/01 13:10:09
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Kain wrote: Charles Rampant wrote:I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.
Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!
Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.
So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.
Another way to put things in perspective: there are more Tau in that "tiny empire" than there are Space Marines in the galaxy. Billions more. And no matter how many Tau players there are out there, I guarantee you Space Marine players outnumber them many times over.
If it isn't a chore to write stories for all these battles where the same few chapters of Marines are all over the galaxy fighting multiple threats at once, and even fighting each other, then I don't see how Tau make things any more difficult.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
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2014/04/01 13:16:04
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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BrotherHaraldus wrote:Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.
Though, as the fluff says, the Marine Armour does have lots of extra gubbins built in. As for form-fitting, maybe. But I'm happy with the overall aesthetic of it, so I'm not too fussed.
Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.
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2014/04/01 13:17:29
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Agent_Tremolo wrote:Orks exhibit every trait and behavior real life racists attribute to "lesser races": Violent, primitive, dumb, foul and ugly... And yet they are one of the most successful species in 40k by a far cry.
Personally, I think they're written as a covert pun on racism.
Brilliant. You can even take it a step further when you realize that it is solely their genetics that allow them to be arguably the most resilient race in the galaxy. To contrast it, here in the real world people tried to use genetics to prove the inferiority of certain peoples, but here in 40k we have the barbarians who can survive and thrive solely because of their advantages programmed into them (spore reproduction, genetically encoded knowledge)
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2014/04/01 13:33:06
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Why was my post removed? Automatically Appended Next Post: Makumba wrote:Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them
That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.
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Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.
Come rest your wings, and let us talk eye to eye.
For I am a spider, and you are the fly. Now that you are here, let us sit, and say hi.
But I have have no morsel to share, nor anything to eat. But wait, what is that stickiness upon your feet.
Ah now I have you, now I can eat. Now I can enjoy you, or store you as meat.
For I am the spider, and you are the fly. How else could it have gone, between one such as you, and one such as I.
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2014/04/01 13:50:30
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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There is no race or faction I particlalry hate from 40k. There are obviously some I like or dislike more than others though. Necrosis are probably my least favourite,
Makumba wrote:Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them
No longer content with fictional racism I see.
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2014/04/01 14:21:51
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Themanwiththeplan wrote: Automatically Appended Next Post: Makumba wrote:Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them That sounds very narrow minded of you. I guess you think we all drink tiffin at four, or hang around on street corners drinking and mugging old ladies. You need to wise up and gain some prospective before you throw around comments like that.
Hey, aren't you supposed to be too busy drinking tea to worry about that? carlos13th wrote:There is no race or faction I particlalry hate from 40k. There are obviously some I like or dislike more than others though. Necrosis are probably my least favourite, Makumba wrote:Orcs are very british , so it isn't hard to dislike them No longer content with fictional racism I see.
He isn't racist, he just dislikes British. There is nothing wrong about disliking the British. Altough I do wonder how it is possible to dislike the people who invented fish and chips and are all around awesome Britain is probably my second-favorite country in the world. I also don't really like the Grey Knights. There is just nothing interesting about them, they are very much like the colour they are named after.
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2014/04/01 17:32:13
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Sidstyler wrote: Kain wrote: Charles Rampant wrote:I most dislike Tau and Imperial Guard.
Tau are really irritating fluff-wise. They are a tiny little empire, yet they have loads of players - there must be more Crisis Suits and Firewarrior models than the Tau Empire has soldiers. This makes it a total chore to write their players into any kind of a narrative effort. I mean, I like the idea of writing a story for a game set in the 36th millenium and stuff, you know, away from the 999.40 business. But oh no... Tau Empire! Only exist in the last ten seconds of the fluff!
Small is relative, there's likely tens if not hundreds of trillions of individuals under the banner of T'au. Much like how the Eldar are considered to have a small population even though individual craftworlds hold billions of people and Commorragh probably hosts tens of trillions.
So yes the Tau are small, but in terms of scale; by our standards they're still enormous. Given that the Tau and their Allies also seem to be rather militarized, their military is also probably a large body with billions if not trillions of standing soldiers, not including Gue'vesa, Kroot, Vespid, and other auxiliaries or allied polities and trading partners.
Another way to put things in perspective: there are more Tau in that "tiny empire" than there are Space Marines in the galaxy. Billions more. And no matter how many Tau players there are out there, I guarantee you Space Marine players outnumber them many times over.
If it isn't a chore to write stories for all these battles where the same few chapters of Marines are all over the galaxy fighting multiple threats at once, and even fighting each other, then I don't see how Tau make things any more difficult.
I personally ignore almost every figure GW, FW, or the BL gives for numbers because I know that they generally have no idea what they're talking about.
FW comes close with some 200 million guard and PDF soldiers at Armanah, but then goofs by saying that a Necron Dynasty of 60 worlds only has 2 million warriors when it was already established that a single tomb world storage chamber can contain hundreds of thousands of necrons and a single tomb world can contain millions of said chambers with ease before you even get into hollowing out the planet.
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2014/04/01 17:34:04
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Pragmatic Collabirator
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Slannesh themed daemons…
I doth think i need to explain.
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2014/04/01 17:36:37
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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2014/04/01 17:45:49
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Troike wrote: BrotherHaraldus wrote:Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.
Though, as the fluff says, the Marine Armour does have lots of extra gubbins built in. As for form-fitting, maybe. But I'm happy with the overall aesthetic of it, so I'm not too fussed.
Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.
I can only think of two times when Sisters died in droves. One was the Bloodtide thing (which while I think could be better, I wish everyone else would just let it go and I play Sisters!) and Sanctuary 101, which was a big Necron victory.
So Blackhair, what other ones are there?
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Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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2014/04/01 17:49:30
Subject: Re:I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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fallinq wrote:
I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.
I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.
I have to say as a tyranid player the fluff is pretty boring. I love the swarmlord/one eye/deathleaper/doom fluff but everything else fluff wise is a wash of teeth and claws.
I just want to have giant monsters on the field and the nids are the best way to do it.
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2014/04/01 18:03:09
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Rotary wrote: fallinq wrote:
I'll admit that some of GW's Daemon models are ugly (I loathe the GW Keeper of Secrets), but that's just an opportunity to make some awesome conversions. That's why I love all things Chaos. They're a converter's Vallhalla. Never build anything like it came in the box! Also, the newer models for the basic bloodletters/daemonettes/horrors look pretty sweet, in my opinion. If you don't build something cheesetastic like Screamerstar, the rules make for some dang fun games too.
I guess we'll all have to put up with it, because however much we may hate a particular race, it's someone's favorite. Even Tyranids, much as I think it gets boring when the fluff shifts focus to the latest Hive Fleet invasion, is someone's favorite army, and I won't begrudge them of that.
I have to say as a tyranid player the fluff is pretty boring. I love the swarmlord/one eye/deathleaper/doom fluff but everything else fluff wise is a wash of teeth and claws.
I just want to have giant monsters on the field and the nids are the best way to do it.
There is no concept that cannot be redeemed by a good enough writer.
The problem is that there aren't any 40k codex writers good enough for it.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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2014/04/01 18:03:42
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I am warning you, there is a serious level of simmering anger behind this post. Might not want to read it unless you're willing to live with that. Eldar. I absolutely hate them. For one because I hate elves on principle, smug pointy eared bastards (and elder are basically space elves) but for another because of how many "free passes" they get from a lot of people about so many things. One of the classic complaints I hear about Tau is that they look "too anime". The Eldar wraith lord has bloody sandals and a katana darn it! Plus Eldar aspect warriors are basically Power Ranges. They have random crystals thrown everywhere on their weapons and shoot sparkly rainbow beams at their enemies.Their infantry weapon is a shuriken cannon! Never have I ever heard people complaining that Eldar look "too anime" unless it's a Tau player specifically pointing this out in response to people complaining about our army. People complain about Draigo being over the top and a complete fluff travesty all the time. Let me introduce you to a guy named Maugan Ra. He single handedly walked into the eye of terror, pulled his craft-world out of it, then decided to run over and kill an entire hive fleet by himself. Do people complain about this being over the top and ridiculous? No! Finally people complain about Necrons stealing the Eldar's thunder as "the advanced oldest race". Well, in my opinion the Eldar don't count. You know why? Because their "ancient empire" is now the Eye of Terror. They were so messed up that they created a Chaos God. You know how incompetent the Imperium of Man is in 40k? Their empire is still around. Eldar are worse than them. Now an ancient empire that actually had its gak together enough to not rip the universe open on top of their homeworld are starting to emerge and people think they are stealing the Eldar's place. The Eldar don't deserve their place. Let the Necrons have it. I just wish the last Craft World would die in a fire so those incredibly arrogant remains of a dying race would finally fade into obscurity and leave us in peace.
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BrianDavion wrote:Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.
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2014/04/01 18:05:31
Subject: I'm a racist...towards Orks...
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
octarius.Lets krump da bugs!
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poppa G wrote:They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe. WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.
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Kote!
Kandosii sa ka'rte, vode an.
Coruscanta a'den mhi, vode an.
Bal kote,Darasuum kote,
Jorso'ran kando a tome.
Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad vode an.
Bal...
Motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.
Aruetyc talyc runi'la trattok'a.
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2014/04/01 18:07:04
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Fixture of Dakka
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Da krimson barun wrote: poppa G wrote:They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe. WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.
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Have an exalt on me.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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2014/04/01 18:09:14
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Da krimson barun wrote: poppa G wrote:They look dumb, sound dumb, their technology is sub-par. How have they not been killed off yet?? They're the equivalent of cavemen. Whenever I hear their illiteracy I want to wipe them off the face of the universe. WE HAS ARRIVED AND IT IZ NOW DAT WE DOES WHAT DA BOSS SAID TO DO.
IN F...FEA...IN FEALTY TO DA BOSSGODS AND DA GRACE OF DA SHINY GUBBINZ,
I DECLARE DIS GIT ORKZTERMINATUS.
I HEREBY EXPLODE WUN UNORKATIC AND CON...CON..CONSIGN HIS SOUL TO EXPLODY DEFF.
MAY GORK AND MORK ACCOUNT IN ALL DAKKA.
DA BOSSGODS PROTECT.
Well, the Greenskin wins. Close the thread, everybody go home, we're finished here.
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2014/04/01 20:24:33
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BrotherHaraldus wrote:Their armour is too form-fitting overall to look like it protects decently well. It just looks thin, and the implications that it would offer equal protection to the bulkier SM armour just seem implausible.
It depends on the model/illustration. For instance, that looks bulky enough to me :
I tend to like it more when the armors are drawn as bulky too.
Troike wrote:
Nah. The whole "dying in droves" thing is just a common misconception. Probably due to the Bloodtide fluff getting so much attention. There's actually plenty of fluff where they're plenty effective and win some significant battles.
Trollbait ?
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2014/04/01 20:29:45
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This is my favorite picture of SOB. To me, this is how they look. Not form fitting S&M stuff or sexy woman warrior crap. I want hard core, fanatical soldiers.
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2014/04/01 20:59:24
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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*Spots boobplate*
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2014/04/01 21:36:25
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Cannot blame you for that.
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2014/04/01 21:59:32
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I really love the idea that the boobplates aren't actually anatomically necessary and they're really just convenient storage pockets.
"just a second, got to retrieve my prayerbook" *pop*
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2014/04/01 22:15:51
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They're not and they are.
The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.
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2014/04/01 22:17:34
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I like to think they are just the Eccleisarchy's way of saying to the Adeptus Administratum, "hey, you know that law saying how we can't have men as soldiers? Well, our soldiers are women, see? Look, they even have breasts!" In other words, trolling, 40k style. The chest piece is probably filled with metal instead flesh, which is what most people seem to think. EDIT: Ah damn, Psi beat me to it.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2014/04/01 22:24:08
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Psienesis wrote:They're not and they are.
The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.
You have a source on that?
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2014/04/01 22:28:12
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Does not make the look any better. And those are only fanon.
Another picture of a Sister with bulky armor, and a very distinct lack of sexiness :
You may recognize my avatar . This… lovely lady comes right out of Codex : Sisters of Battle, the only one ever printed. Is it not lovely ?
Either this sister has breasts bigger than her head, or those are just armored decoration .
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2014/04/01 22:31:49
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Yeah, I really doubt that all members of the Sororitas are packing DD / EE cups. That are all the same size.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2014/04/01 22:40:49
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Psienesis wrote:They're not and they are.
The reason they're there is to amp up the feminine look of the Sister, as a way for the Ecclesiarchy to show off the fact that they are adhering to the Decree Passive.
The problem is that 'boobplates' would be a terrible idea for armour. Not only is it a unnecessary, but it would in fact be extremely dangerous for the wearer. The purpose of armour is to deflect blows. Those two breasts on the armour could guide an incoming blow straight towards the center of your breastbone. Instant death. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/boob-plate-armor-would-kill-you
Aside from that, I think that boobplates are ugly and sexist. I much prefer hot girls in practical armour instead
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2014/04/01 22:43:26
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Only thing I dont like about sisters are the models... they need some fresh stuff.
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2014/04/01 22:44:30
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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This is why I wanted SoB termies.
I have the feeling that GW will soon introduce 'Sororitas Knights', the first super-heavy walkers with boobplate...
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