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I had just remembered that I had told a local store that I wanted one of each code for PP's new Cephalyx models. This was back when the first video was shown. I've since found out that everything but the caster and solos will be in hard grey PVC. So an email was sent. And the order is no more!
I replaced it with an order for some Victrix 54mm Napoleonics. In hard styrene no less.
Spoiler:
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
I'm a veteran of the Mantic theater of the Restic Wars. I blindly supported a company that made great hard plastic undead models...sadly I was left wounded and dying on the Kings of War Kickstarter then the grim reaper of Deadzone came along and performed the coupe de grace that sent me screaming into the deepest pits of Restic Hell. Save me brothers!
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
One thing Mantic does with their restic that must hide the poison long enough for it to be drunk is to provide an impressive quantity of figures for you coin. I fear you may be inundated beyond hope.
Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better.
I once had an encounter with a new model company... She teased me, promised me stuff, looked amazing. I took her home and when we got down to business I was exposed to the most horrible revelation... RESTIC! Damage, mold lines, terrible material... looked nothing like her photos. She took my money and left me sad and alone with piles of trashy models.
I am now emotionally damaged as I distrust all kickstarters and model companies now... They get offended when I want to do a material check before pledging. I have a hard line RESTIC ban.
I wish that every KS thread in news and rumors would be forced to put the model material in bold brackets so we could quickly see and avoid those KSs. I keep getting excited for stuff and only later finding that they are hiding the fact that they are making garbage restic figures which will not turn out anywhere close to the resin prototypes they tease with.
Friends don't let friends pledge Restic companies KSs and take them home with them.
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That is incredible work, brother basement! It will remind us all of the pitfalls of restic every time we view our banner. I will edit it into the first post, along with a list of the members of our order, once home.
Also welcome nkelsch, thanks for sharing your story with restic addiction. She truly is a fickle mistress.
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Basement dweller,that is absolutely gorgeous work. I'd like a high res version as well, if you care to share; I see a T-shirt in my future, with your permission of course.
Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do
@RiTides, alas the toils shared around the not so round table moved me to such a degree I could not leave it alone. I am however saddened I could not suitably fit in the mishaps of boiling water in a satisfactory way.
@P Honda
Any particular size?
@Agnosto - hehe thanks. Unfortunately as it turns out I am stupid as I was doodling for fun and didn't think ahead. It's the original format - but if it's really something that people would like on a t-shirt I'd make the effort.
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I wish that every KS thread in news and rumors would be forced to put the model material in bold brackets so we could quickly see and avoid those KSs. I keep getting excited for stuff and only later finding that they are hiding the fact that they are making garbage restic figures which will not turn out anywhere close to the resin prototypes they tease with.
Friends don't let friends pledge Restic companies KSs and take them home with them.
All kidding aside, this is a great idea!
Current campaigns to be VERY wary of:
Drakerys
Fallen Frontiers
basement.dweller wrote: Because apparently I've got too much time on my hands...
In short: The flexible type has DEHP or other pthalates that are most probably carcinogenic and the HARD PLASTIC usually contains lead as the main stabiliser when coming from China in amounts that are way above what is deemed safe.
So we ditched leadfree tin-soldiers to get our lead from HARD PLASTIC. Awesome
Another reason why specifics matter.
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basement.dweller wrote: @RiTides, alas the toils shared around the not so round table moved me to such a degree I could not leave it alone. I am however saddened I could not suitably fit in the mishaps of boiling water in a satisfactory way.
@P Honda
Any particular size?
@Agnosto - hehe thanks. Unfortunately as it turns out I am stupid as I was doodling for fun and didn't think ahead. It's the original format - but if it's really something that people would like on a t-shirt I'd make the effort.
In short: The flexible type has DEHP or other pthalates that are most probably carcinogenic and the HARD PLASTIC usually contains lead as the main stabiliser when coming from China in amounts that are way above what is deemed safe.
So we ditched leadfree tin-soldiers to get our lead from HARD PLASTIC. Awesome
Another reason why specifics matter.
There may not be a grain of salt large enough for this. Child safety sites basically say everything will kill your baby. Seriously, I have a 5 month old and spent the first two months looking up actual medical studies for most of the gak people post as dangerous to babies/kids, and the vast majority of it is total crap. Even by medical study standards.
Lots of reasons to hate PVC, but "it will kill you/make you sick/give you squirrel aids" is not really a good one.
Brothers, while I appreciate your zeal, I would like to clarify one thing for myself. I am not here to boycott or ruin anyone's Kickstarter. I respect our esteemed colleagues DaveC, OrlandoTheTechnicoloured, and others too much to do that.
As sister Cyporiean points out, PVC has it's place. That place is, I heartily believe, firmly in the realm of board games, chibi miniatures, or those with oversized features:
It is only when this substance is used to ensnare miniature gamers in a web of mold lines, soft detail and false promises that we should take note, and hold one another accountable.
But for myself and some others here, this is an inward journey, one of identifying and facing my demons. Maybe there are people out there who can toil at PVC wargaming miniatures, removing mold lines, adding detail, bending features. But I know myself now, and I do not have the self control for such a task.
I am a Restic Knight, and my PVC belongs tucked safely away in the board gaming box. There I am kept safe from it's seduction, it's siren song of cheap wargaming armies, it's promises which always fall short. Help me keep it there, brothers.
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I think that when done well restic can be just as good as the other resin/metal/etc with great prices. The problem however is that Privateer Press are seriously darkening the image of PVc with their own attempt at the material. Lol...... Quality hardly better than reaper bones for nearly 3x the price.
Sinful Hero wrote: My brothers, I fear there is a new menace on the rise! The Others - 7 Sins appears to be made from restic...
And several dastardly warning signs are afoot!
1. Multiple companies involved to spread the blame around!
2. Knockoff pop culture characters as an incentive!
3. Mostly concept art!
And it is sorely tempting me... Indeed it is...
This is going to hurt, but please remember. I am only here to help.
Spoiler. Images NSFW, children or those with weak stomachs.
Sinful Hero wrote: My brothers, I fear there is a new menace on the rise! The Others - 7 Sins appears to be made from restic...
And several dastardly warning signs are afoot!
1. Multiple companies involved to spread the blame around!
2. Knockoff pop culture characters as an incentive!
3. Mostly concept art!
And it is sorely tempting me... Indeed it is...
This is going to hurt, but please remember. I am only here to help.
Spoiler. Images NSFW, children or those with weak stomachs.
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To really illustrate the hurt, you have to have the size comparison to Wave 1.
while I won't disavow PVC the above makes a very powerful point
If you choose to use the devils medium you MUST tell the sculptors but bulk everything up to allow for shrinkage... I does not work for true-scale anything
My eyes! Why must you torment us so, Azazel? Would you hold out a drink before a man dying of thirst in the desert? Even a cup of bitter saltwater, half filled with sand may tempt him.
Brothers, only open the above images after reminding yourselves of who you are- Restic Knights, not to be tricked by this fool's gold, no matter the pretty packaging (renders and artwork) it is presented with!
Take heed of the soft and lacking detail, and be not led astray by the beguiling model who tempts you to taste such an unsatisfying draught. Knights of the somewhat round table, remember who you are!
RiTides wrote: My eyes! Why must you torment us so, Azazel? Would you hold out a drink before a man dying of thirst in the desert? Even a cup of bitter saltwater, half filled with sand may tempt him.
Brothers, only open the above images after reminding yourselves of who you are- Restic Knights, not to be tricked by this fool's gold, no matter the pretty packaging (renders and artwork) it is presented with!
Take heed of the soft and lacking detail, and be not led astray by the beguiling model who tempts you to taste such an unsatisfying draught. Knights of the somewhat round table, remember who you are!
The brother was in danger of having his willpower lapse. I thought it only best to show an example of what the warning signs can portent...
1. Multiple companies involved to spread the blame around!
2. Knockoff pop culture characters as an incentive!
3. Mostly concept art!
And of course, that most hideous of resticular names. The fallen Angel, the painter, McVey is involved. Again.
1. Multiple companies involved to spread the blame around!
This is a disturbing new trend... It is like saying "When Beth was alone, or Beth was married to Chuck, she drowned both her babies... Don't worry, this time Beth is married to Frank so this baby won't drown horribly!"
My Models: Ork Army: Waaagh 'Az-ard - Chibi Dungeon RPG Models! - My Workblog! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
RULE OF COOL: When converting models, there is only one rule: "The better your model looks, the less people will complain about it."
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MODELING FOR ADVANTAGE TEST: rigeld2: "Easy test - are you willing to play the model as a stock one? No? MFA."
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